Texas basketball official visitor next week

[harveycmd]

I'm thinking if we had a good defensive point guard we be 20-4 instead of 15-9.

[harveycmd]

39 minutes ago, Rocky P said:

Its clear there is a lot you dont understand.  Starting with the term relic.  

You're so smart, you make me ponder perpetual motion. 

[harveycmd]

50 minutes ago, Rocky P said:

Its clear there is a lot you dont understand.  Starting with the term relic.  

Unfortunately, I've already moved on to entropy. I think that's closer to the truth as far you're concerned.

[Paul L]

2 hours ago, harveycmd said:

I'm talking 40 years ago. Does 40 years change physics?

Oooohhhhhhh.  This is going to be good.  I can’t wait for you to try and explain how physics relates to this. 

[Ojeezy]

What a thread

[Tim Longoria]

[Jordan91]

2 hours ago, pinkman_90 said:

I didn’t watch the Miller interview so not sure what he said.  You don’t need a pass first point guard but you absolutely need guys that can handle the ball and control pace.  
 

Brunson is my favorite PG right now and he’s absolutely not pass first.  But he knows when to take over vs when to defer.  When to push vs. pull back.  

There may be some confusion about point guard in general. Combo guards are actually able to get into the paint, make the defense collapse and kick it out for an assist. They can even throw lobs for dunks. I watched the interview. You can win with one or win without one. If the top player in the country wanted to come to Texas and was an old school point guard, I am quite sure Coach Miller would gladly take him. 

[Jordan91]

5 hours ago, Gerry Hamilton said:

OTF can confirm a report that the Texas is currently scheduled to host 6-foot-8 Swiss wing prospect Klark-Luca Riethauser next week. 

The class of 2026 prospect is making an official visit to Nebraska this weekend, and has lready been offered by Fred Hoiberg. 

 

Would he be considered a freshman skilled player? Don’t know much about him. 

[Gerry Hamilton]

This visitor is currently in the class of 2027. Feel like Texas is hoping he remains in 2027. 

Nebraska would take him whether he's 2027 or ends up in 2026. 

[AceHorn23]

5 hours ago, harveycmd said:

If you don't have the best post, or the best SG guard ever like Mikey or Kobe, you can't win without a real PG. I don't understand what Miller is talking about. He lost me. I'm not coming back until the chump wins a title.

Bye bye 👋 

[AceHorn23]

4 hours ago, harveycmd said:

Kobe better than Bird. 

I don't know what this means. We talking 5 to 3.  

My point is that Miller told Gerry you can win with a "combo" point guard. You can't unless you have the best frontcourt. Even that won't matter if the other team has great backcourt players. My example is the mid 80s Celtics had the best frontcourt ever, but they couldn't beat the best point guard ever in Magic. Not to mention that Kobe as a shooting guard was more important than the most athletically gifted player ever as Shaq.  Jerry West told Shaq that Kobe was already better than him when Kobe was 17 in July 1996.

WE KNOW, you've said it 12,000 times!!

[AceHorn23]

4 hours ago, harveycmd said:

Florida had the best frontcourt in the country. A one off by UConn doesn't change history.

Sounds like you need a little bit of smoke to calm yourself down. 🤣🤣

[AceHorn23]

3 hours ago, harveycmd said:

I ate apples.

Those weren't apples. 🤣🤣

[AceHorn23]

3 hours ago, harveycmd said:

I'm talking 40 years ago. Does 40 years change physics?

Damn, you're old. 

[AceHorn23]

3 hours ago, harveycmd said:

Jason "White Chocolate" Williams doesn't mean much to me. If I'm not mistaken, he never did much against the best. 

Who do you think was the best PG ever, Gerry?

According to you, it's Magic Johnson. 

[AceHorn23]

3 hours ago, harveycmd said:

Magic had 42, 15 and 7 as rookie in game 6 of the 1980 NBA Finals. I'd say that's pretty versatile for "pass first" point guard. I don't understand what these idiots are talking about.

We don't understand what the hell you're talking about. 🤯

[AceHorn23]

3 hours ago, harveycmd said:

It's true I don't know anything about relics. You're a genius on the past.

And yet you're the one talking about basketball from 40 years ago. 🤣🤣🤣

[AceHorn23]

2 hours ago, harveycmd said:

I'm thinking if we had a good defensive point guard we be 20-4 instead of 15-9.

And if I would have had just 3 more correct lottery numbers I'd be a multi millionaire. 😁

[jkates]

5 hours ago, harveycmd said:

He lost me. I'm not coming back until the chump wins a title.

Liar. 

[PaulieD]

11 hours ago, MJW2327 said:

We got a legit real-world advertisement for the “ignore” feature here good lord 

I thought all the trolls were on OB....🤣

[PaulieD]

8 hours ago, AceHorn23 said:

Damn, you're old. 

I'm old, he's a relic from an archeological dig.

[Gerry Hamilton]

9 hours ago, Jordan91 said:

There may be some confusion about point guard in general. Combo guards are actually able to get into the paint, make the defense collapse and kick it out for an assist. They can even throw lobs for dunks. I watched the interview. You can win with one or win without one. If the top player in the country wanted to come to Texas and was an old school point guard, I am quite sure Coach Miller would gladly take him. 

Oh, I definitely think there is confusion. 

People try to pigeon hole what one is. Absolutely define what a positional player has to be, to be a quality player or impact winning. 

I'm always going to say there are so many ways to win and be successful, with so many different skill set players nowadays in college hoops.

Your team runner/combo guard or pure PG (if you find a rare one these days) can be floor spacer shooter that get's a team into action/sets and doesn't have to be the playmaker off the bounce - if said player has another guard playing off of him that's the creator. And parts on the team around him fit to a system and create space and angles. 

IMO, the systems nowadays are more important than a PG/lead guard/combo guard in college basketball. Or the roster creation.

Duke absolutely doesn't have a PG this year. Or a true off the bounce creator consistently. They built a roster with extreme length, enough perimeter shooting and an elite big (who leads team in assists). They have the ability to recruit a roster like that, of course. 

This is the team runner/combo guard I want as a college coach. (UConn played two CG roles on that team). Elite shooter that can play on or off ball, and still run a team. Absolutely puts high-end pressure on an opponent without being a pure PG, drive and kick CG/team runner at the college level. The plays he made off dribble were more built from the system. And he played in the system beautifully. Rarely was there a drive inside ten feet that was a pure creation. 

He plays a totally different game in the NBA as a team runner/PG now with the 48 minute spacing in the NBA game.

 

 

[Durantula23]

13 hours ago, harveycmd said:

If I'm not mistaken, Magic had four titles by the time he was as old as Luka is now. Is that a relic of point guard play?

Maybe you should try watching the modern game of basketball. Other posters have already laid it out for you. My guess is you’re either trolling or too dense to see what’s been presented to you. 

[PaulieD]

18 minutes ago, Gerry Hamilton said:

Oh, I definitely think there is confusion. 

People try to pigeon hole what one is. Absolutely define what a positional player has to be, to be a quality player or impact winning. 

I'm always going to there are so many ways to win and be successful, with so many different skill set players nowadays in college hoops.

Your team runner/combo guard or pure PG (if you find a rare one these days) can be floor spacer shooter that get's a team into action/sets and doesn't have to be the playmaker off the bounce - if said player has another guard playing off of him that's the creator. And parts on the team around him fit to a system and create space and angles. 

IMO, the systems nowadays are more important than a PG/lead guard/combo guard in college basketball. Or the roster creation.

Duke absolutely doesn't have a PG this year. Or a true off the bounce creator consistently. They built a roster with extreme length, enough perimeter shooting and an elite big (who leads team in assists). They have the ability to recruit a roster like that, of course. 

This is the team runner/combo guard I want as a college coach. (UConn played two CG roles on that team). Elite shooter that can play on or off ball, and still run a team. Absolutely puts high-end pressure on an opponent without being a pure PG, drive and kick CG/team runner at the college level. The plays he made off dribble were more built from the system. And he played in the system beautifully. Rarely was there a drive inside ten feet that was a pure creation. 

He plays a totally different game in the NBA as a team runner/PG now with the 48 minute spacing in the NBA game.

 

 

Very concise take on the matter, @Gerry Hamilton.

Like so many things in life, there's more than one answer.  Kudos. P

[Assistant Regional Manager]

I had a bad feeling when I saw 3 pages on this thread that I would have to read through a bunch of the posts not related to the thread topic.