Third Time’s a Charm

[Bobby Burton]

It’s the third transfer pledge of the day for the Horns 

https://x.com/TiptonEdits/status/1779693967707127979
 

[CoachBobbyFinstock]

 

[ElCafetero]

well I guess just bring in the entire Indiana state team atp

[justwinbaby]

2 minutes ago, ElCafetero said:

well I guess just bring in the entire Indiana state team atp

They made the NIT final and lost against Seton Hall.  Went further basketball wise than Texas.

[CJ Vogel]

8 minutes ago, justwinbaby said:

They made the NIT final and lost against Seton Hall.  Went further basketball wise than Texas.

I mean not really. It was still the NIT. A good run nonetheless, but a fight for 70th best team in the country is still where they ended up.

[carsonsmith84]

26 minutes ago, ElCafetero said:

well I guess just bring in the entire Indiana state team atp

The 2 players that Texas got are good

[Thorn007]

we need all players with  last names that are first names

[GetHooked]

If it's Indiana State, we got the wrong Larry.

[MarkInAustin]

Assuming Hunter and Mitchell do not return and Tre stays with Texas, then: 

the team is now one PG and one BIG away from a potentially decent eight man rotation. 

Gerry has pointed out that if it is the Okie Lite Big he is a back-to-the-basket guy who must be surrounded by shooters, and these three fit that description.  Better, as Gerry has also pointed out, would be adding two BIGs, one of whom is a stretch 4.  Question for Gerry: Can Kent suffice as a stretch 4? [I tend to think not, but a versatile long wing is still a good mix on the floor].

If Hunter returns I think he becomes a situational sub and not even the 7th man. He does not solve for the lack of a good PG, as he is a shooting guard in a small package, wildly inconsistent on offense and a poor decision maker.  His defense is generally very good and he hits his foul shots.  Good energy, but no Weaver.  Pure sub on a balanced team.

If Mitchell returns I think he may become a situational sub as well, but with more possibilities to play than will remain for Hunter.  He is an excellent defender and a fine rebounder, but a limited shooter, as we all know, not a true stretch 4.  If everyone else on the floor with him can make space he becomes dangerous on offense because he moves very well without the ball and can take advantage of spacing.  There might be a mix and match combination among the new three, Tre, and Shedrick that would showcase Mitchell's offensive talent.

Weaver will probably get starter minutes next season even if he is the anointed gem of a sixth man.  He will make his own upside.  If Weaver's range on his shot improves, and there is some reason to believe it will because he shot better as a freshman, he would become a star.  If it does not, spacing provided by the others will still spin gold for Weaver on offense. 

Summary: these three additions should seal Hunter's decision to leave.  The right 2 [or 3] additional in - portals will determine the ceiling for next season.   I think a decent floor has been set.

 

[bierce]

8 hours ago, Thorn007 said:

we need all players with  last names that are first names

Brandon Garrison, come on down.

[Neil Leininger]

1 hour ago, MarkInAustin said:

Assuming Hunter and Mitchell do not return and Tre stays with Texas, then: 

the team is now one PG and one BIG away from a potentially decent eight man rotation. 

Gerry has pointed out that if it is the Okie Lite Big he is a back-to-the-basket guy who must be surrounded by shooters, and these three fit that description.  Better, as Gerry has also pointed out, would be adding two BIGs, one of whom is a stretch 4.  Question for Gerry: Can Kent suffice as a stretch 4? [I tend to think not, but a versatile long wing is still a good mix on the floor].

If Hunter returns I think he becomes a situational sub and not even the 7th man. He does not solve for the lack of a good PG, as he is a shooting guard in a small package, wildly inconsistent on offense and a poor decision maker.  His defense is generally very good and he hits his foul shots.  Good energy, but no Weaver.  Pure sub on a balanced team.

If Mitchell returns I think he may become a situational sub as well, but with more possibilities to play than will remain for Hunter.  He is an excellent defender and a fine rebounder, but a limited shooter, as we all know, not a true stretch 4.  If everyone else on the floor with him can make space he becomes dangerous on offense because he moves very well without the ball and can take advantage of spacing.  There might be a mix and match combination among the new three, Tre, and Shedrick that would showcase Mitchell's offensive talent.

Weaver will probably get starter minutes next season even if he is the anointed gem of a sixth man.  He will make his own upside.  If Weaver's range on his shot improves, and there is some reason to believe it will because he shot better as a freshman, he would become a star.  If it does not, spacing provided by the others will still spin gold for Weaver on offense. 

Summary: these three additions should seal Hunter's decision to leave.  The right 2 [or 3] additional in - portals will determine the ceiling for next season.   I think a decent floor has been set.

 

Larry is the PG. Pope is a CG, Weaver is a SG, Mark and Johnson are college wings that can run the offense for short stretches. My guess, is that the starting 5 next year if Pope comes is Larry, Pope, Mark, Johnson, and a big.

Kent would be playing the Cunningham role, where Brock played wing, stretch 4 and stretch 5. Kent is much more of an offensive threat than Cunningham was.

[Red Five]

13 hours ago, justwinbaby said:

They made the NIT final and lost against Seton Hall.  Went further basketball wise than Texas.

Just categorically untrue. 

[MarkInAustin]

3 hours ago, Neil Leininger said:

Larry is the PG. Pope is a CG, Weaver is a SG, Mark and Johnson are college wings that can run the offense for short stretches. My guess, is that the starting 5 next year if Pope comes is Larry, Pope, Mark, Johnson, and a big.

Kent would be playing the Cunningham role, where Brock played wing, stretch 4 and stretch 5. Kent is much more of an offensive threat than Cunningham was.

Chris Johnson is no longer with the team.  I worried this would happen when he was not played enough in the pre-conference season to get his feet wet.  Chris was actually a tall PG, not a wing, and we were without the benefit of a tall PG late in the season when the two smurfs were sometimes overwhelmed by big guards.

I would compare Kent with Timmy Allen for his ability to move without the ball and his moves near the basket, but he does not appear to be as sturdy.  He can shoot an open trey.  I agree that Larry is a PG, but we need a second distributor who can also run the ball club and I have not seen Mark come near being that, in fact, in the only two games I saw him play, he was turnover prone like Hunter.  Pope, or a near facsimile of Pope, would be suitable.

Garrison is a good take, I think, with this crew of shooters, and I also think a healthy Shedrick can play the stretch 4-5, if a rim protecting rebounder is in the post. 

If you saw several Indiana State games do you think if Texas secures Garrison as an inside banger and rim protector that Kent provides enough rebounding and interior defense to be played as a stretch 4?  Mitchell, were he to return, could provide the interior defense, but he would remove credible shooting from the position.

[Neil Leininger]

6 minutes ago, MarkInAustin said:

Chris Johnson is no longer with the team.  I worried this would happen when he was not played enough in the pre-conference season to get his feet wet.  Chris was actually a tall PG, not a wing, and we were without the benefit of a tall PG late in the season when the two smurfs were sometimes overwhelmed by big guards.

I would compare Kent with Timmy Allen for his ability to move without the ball and his moves near the basket, but he does not appear to be as sturdy.  He can shoot an open trey.  I agree that Larry is a PG, but we need a second distributor who can also run the ball club and I have not seen Mark come near being that, in fact, in the only two games I saw him play, he was turnover prone like Hunter.  Pope, or a near facsimile of Pope, would be suitable.

Garrison is a good take, I think, with this crew of shooters, and I also think a healthy Shedrick can play the stretch 4-5, if a rim protecting rebounder is in the post. 

If you saw several Indiana State games do you think if Texas secures Garrison as an inside banger and rim protector that Kent provides enough rebounding and interior defense to be played as a stretch 4?  Mitchell, were he to return, could provide the interior defense, but he would remove credible shooting from the position.

Holy cow dude, do you even follow Texas hoops. I was talking about Tre Johnson, the 5-star 2025 NBA lottery pick.

I wouldn't compare Kent to Allen because Kent has never shown the ability to make plays for others in 4 seasons, plus he's a better floor spacer than Allen. The only way they are similar is they both play below the rim, same with Cunningham.

[Daniel Lovell]

We want rob wave to lol 

[MarkInAustin]

1 hour ago, Neil Leininger said:

Holy cow dude, do you even follow Texas hoops. I was talking about Tre Johnson, the 5-star 2025 NBA lottery pick.

I wouldn't compare Kent to Allen because Kent has never shown the ability to make plays for others in 4 seasons, plus he's a better floor spacer than Allen. The only way they are similar is they both play below the rim, same with Cunningham.

Tre.  right.  Brain fart.