Sark's Offense Is Dated

[pinkman_90]

1 minute ago, Oldest Horn said:

 

Well when Arch starts finding open receivers and reading blitzes get back to me. 

😞.  You’re too far gone.  Sad 

[Oldest Horn]

3 minutes ago, pinkman_90 said:

😞.  You’re too far gone.  Sad 

I know. Watching take after take of Arch’s continued misfires has gone a number on me. But, sure thing, Sark’s concepts are dated.😆

[mmdaytontexas]

49 minutes ago, pinkman_90 said:

I mean this is just wrong.  The blinders some of you people have

No, you are dead wrong. The scheme is getting people open. There are just people not doing their jobs.

The only thing you might have an argument with Sark on his his lack of flexibility in the play call. He should let Arch change the play when he sees the defense shift into an overload because he doesn't have enough blockers to handle it. If his routes are deep, then he's dead meat. The scheme is fine. Sark needs to tweak a few things to give the QB more flexibility to counter what he is seeing. 

Again, the main problem is his players not doing their jobs.

 

[Califashorn75]

It's not the playcalling. It's the quarterback who doesn't throw to the open receiver. Arch needs to sit and try and get his mojo back. 

[Rockin TL]

2 minutes ago, mmdaytontexas said:

No, you are dead wrong. The scheme is getting people open. There are just people not doing their jobs.

The only thing you might have an argument with Sark on his his lack of flexibility in the play call. He should let Arch change the play when he sees the defense shift into an overload because he doesn't have enough blockers to handle it. If his routes are deep, then he's dead meat. The scheme is fine. Sark needs to tweak a few things to give the QB more flexibility to counter what he is seeing. 

Again, the main problem is his players not doing their jobs.

 

What about all the non passing plays or plays not featured there? That video is a glimpse of part of the issue, that video isn’t definitive proof it’s all arch. 
 

what is our best blocking scheme? Why do we jump around with blocking schemes within the confines of this offense? There is more to scheme than just passing downs. 

Edited 59 minutes ago by Rockin TL

[Oldest Horn]

1 minute ago, Rockin TL said:

What about all the non passing plays or plays not featured there? That video is a glimpse of part of the issue, that video isn’t definitive proof it’s all arch. 
 

what is our best blocking scheme? Why do we jump around with blocking schemes within the confines of this offense? There is more to scheme than just passing downs. 

Imagine if Arch hit just half of those dozen or so plays Browne covered. 

[Horns91]

1 hour ago, Rockin TL said:

People truly only want to focus on the Arch aspect of the offense, not this stuff.

Why is Wingo blocking a guy 4 yards off the ball and not the guy in front of him? I’m not blaming wingo but center gets blitzing middle linebacker and everyone else on left side of the line gets the guy in front and 2 the right. We need 2 yards. If arch keeps it then rb blocks the guy in front of wingo or runs to the flat taking him with him and arch has no one accounting for him. Need hat on hat. Who makes the blocking calls on that? Center? Arch isn’t helping from my understanding. 

[pinkman_90]

20 minutes ago, mmdaytontexas said:

No, you are dead wrong. The scheme is getting people open. There are just people not doing their jobs.

The only thing you might have an argument with Sark on his his lack of flexibility in the play call. He should let Arch change the play when he sees the defense shift into an overload because he doesn't have enough blockers to handle it. If his routes are deep, then he's dead meat. The scheme is fine. Sark needs to tweak a few things to give the QB more flexibility to counter what he is seeing. 

Again, the main problem is his players not doing their jobs.

 

When you lie at least own up to it.  Remind me who the center was double teaming 

[Oldest Horn]

2 minutes ago, pinkman_90 said:

When you lie at least own up to it.  Remind me who the center was double teaming 

So people aren’t open? Thanks for the hot take. 

[pinkman_90]

1 minute ago, Oldest Horn said:

So people aren’t open? Thanks for the hot take. 

Yup arch misses open guys.  Once again find where I said arch is blameless (you won’t).  
 

The core offensive scheme is broken.  And I say core very lightly because we don’t have a core scheme or identity.  

[Red Five]

You people are killing me. When the offense is this bad, it's basically everyone's fault, but it ultimately falls on one person. The one who is not only the OC but also the head coach. Even if all of our problems were 100% tied to Arch, then the obvious question would be "Then why the hell is he still the quarterback?". 

[MCTEX]

1 hour ago, pinkman_90 said:

 

so who is the center double teaming again?

If this is a run, then both the right guard and the right tackle blew their assignment. They both should be blocking down on the player in their inside gap. 
 

Probably a bad play call as well, too many orange helmets to block and not enough white helmets.  

[mmdaytontexas]

1 minute ago, Rockin TL said:

What about all the non passing plays or plays not featured there? That video is a glimpse of part of the issue, that video isn’t definitive proof it’s all arch. 

That video is absolute proof it's mostly on Arch, and the OL that is getting worse each game. Guys are open and no one is blocking well. That is not a scheme issue. Here is another film study that shows the busted assignments were the cause of this loss, and not scheme.

Again, the only thing that Sark can do is tweak his offense to give his QBs the ability to change plays when they see blitzes or overloads coming. But no scheme is going to work if players are busting assignments.

 

[mmdaytontexas]

15 minutes ago, pinkman_90 said:

When you lie at least own up to it.  Remind me who the center was double teaming 

What lie? You are freaking delusional.

[Rockin TL]

2 minutes ago, mmdaytontexas said:

That video is absolute proof it's mostly on Arch, and the OL that is getting worse each game. Guys are open and no one is blocking well. That is not a scheme issue. Here is another film study that shows the busted assignments were the cause of this loss, and not scheme.

Again, the only thing that Sark can do is tweak his offense to give his QBs the ability to change plays when they see blitzes or overloads coming. But no scheme is going to work if players are busting assignments.

 

It’s like the scheme is the reason for this, we have no fall back because the scheme is the scheme for Sark. He should have retooled, simplified everything, focus on one blocking style for his offense, and this all should have been done during the bye. Now we lost 2 in a row to unranked opponents he’s going to now open things. 
 

As @Red Five pointed out above if Arch is 100% at fault, he’s not, then it’s on the coaching staff and scheme to change. 
 

Sark not changing anything until he absolutely has to is an indictment to his failures as a HC and an OC. Adjust to what you have, not what you want. 

[Oldest Horn]

16 minutes ago, pinkman_90 said:

Yup arch misses open guys.  Once again find where I said arch is blameless (you won’t).  
 

The core offensive scheme is broken.  And I say core very lightly because we don’t have a core scheme or identity.  

He misses lots of open guys, ace. Which cost us first downs, touchdowns and positive yardage to sustain drives. If Arch only hit half of those misses (not much to ask) we would have won not only Saturday but probably against OU. 
 

We have no “scheme or identity” because our QB is not playing competently. Simple as that. 

[pinkman_90]

16 minutes ago, mmdaytontexas said:

What lie? You are freaking delusional.

You asked for a play that was a scheme issue.  I showed you one.  You said no that’s actually a blown assignment from the center who double teamed with Sikorski.  I showed you made that up.  
 

 

Edited 11 minutes ago by pinkman_90

[pinkman_90]

4 minutes ago, Oldest Horn said:

He misses lots of open guys, ace. Which cost us first downs, touchdowns and positive yardage to sustain drives. If Arch only hit half of those misses (not much to ask) we would have won not only Saturday but probably against OU. 
 

We have no “scheme or identity” because our QB is not playing competently. Simple as that. 

So what’s our scheme/identity?  Would you say “play action shots without a running game”?  

Edited 11 minutes ago by pinkman_90

[Oldest Horn]

Just now, pinkman_90 said:

So what’s our scheme?  Would you say “play action shots without a running game”?  

Our scheme is based on a QB operating in a competent manner. 
 

Is that too heavy a lift to expect for Arch? 

[Rockin TL]

2 minutes ago, Oldest Horn said:

Our scheme is based on a QB operating in a competent manner. 
 

Is that too heavy a lift to expect for Arch? 

That’s not a scheme, that is expectations. What is our scheme and identity to fall back on when that doesn’t occur?

Edited 8 minutes ago by Rockin TL

[pinkman_90]

2 minutes ago, Oldest Horn said:

Our scheme is based on a QB operating in a competent manner. 
 

Is that too heavy a lift to expect for Arch? 

Ok so not a real conversation.  Have a good night 

[Oldest Horn]

Just now, Rockin TL said:

That’s not a scheme, that is expectations. What is our scheme and identity to fall back on when that doesn’t occur?

Isn’t it wild how our running game picked up once Arch started hitting passes against Oh St?

[Oldest Horn]

3 minutes ago, pinkman_90 said:

Ok so not a real conversation.  Have a good night 

Bye bye, pumpkin.