Chris Simms

[ChoateTheGoat]

I know Bobby will like this. Chris Simms appears to have completely embraced being a Longhorn again with the way he talks about Texas. It warms my heart. 

[Neil Leininger]

Chris Simms with the perfect point about why Ewers struggles. He stays on his primary read to long to often. For instance take a look at this screen shot. The primary read is obviously Wingo on the out, but look at the middle of the field here. Moore easily scores a TD here and it's a much easier throw. Instead he throws to Wingo in tight coverage and throws the ball behind him instead of to the pylon where it would likely be a TD. Ewers never even looks at any other options other than Wingo and makes a poor throw on top of it. Luckily, Arkansas has a coverage break down on the next play and Golden is wide open for an easy TD, but the TD should have been made on this play.

Edited November 18 by Neil Leininger

[Hashtag]

Texas should really do a day where the honor him at a game, its crazy what he had to go through due to our fanbase,  but I feel like our fans are so dumb sometimes and would not treat him with the respect he deserves even now days.

[GoHorns1]

A lot of Texas fans own Chris Simms a huge apology for way they treated him the last 20 plus years.

[horns96]

38 minutes ago, Neil Leininger said:

Chris Simms with the perfect point about why Ewers struggles. He stays on his primary read to long to often. For instance take a look at this screen shot. The primary read is obviously Wingo on the out, but look at the middle of the field here. Moore easily scores a TD here and it's a much easier throw. Instead he throws to Wingo in tight coverage and throws the ball behind him instead of to the pylon where it would likely be a TD. Ewers never even looks at any other options other than Wingo and makes a poor throw on top of it. Luckily, Arkansas has a coverage break down on the next play and Golden is wide open for an easy TD, but the TD should have been made on this play.

Moore easily scores a TD here? I don't see it...  

[horns96]

...but I'm glad Simms is back in the loop.  Maybe Rod B can get him on an OTF show.🤘

[Neil Leininger]

1 minute ago, horns96 said:

Moore easily scores a TD here? I don't see it...  

You think two stationary defenders are going to stop Moore who is running full speed from scoring a TD? This isn't EA Sports where defenders magically make up 5 yards of separation in 0.2 nanoseconds.

[pack.swear]

9 minutes ago, Neil Leininger said:

You think two stationary defenders are going to stop Moore who is running full speed from scoring a TD? This isn't EA Sports where defenders magically make up 5 yards of separation in 0.2 nanoseconds.

The issue is Moore doesn't have his head turned yet, so you can't throw it with the safety right over the top of Moore. With the sky cam, you can see when Moore does turn his head around; if Quinn pumps the Wingo route, Moore has so much space that if he got the ball, he would easily score. The hook defender immediately darts to Wingo the second. It looks like Ewers is going to throw it, so Moore was going to be open when he turned his head. 

[ChoateTheGoat]

1 hour ago, horns96 said:

...but I'm glad Simms is back in the loop.  Maybe Rod B can get him on an OTF show.🤘

That would be so awesome!

[horns96]

2 hours ago, Neil Leininger said:

You think two stationary defenders are going to stop Moore who is running full speed from scoring a TD? This isn't EA Sports where defenders magically make up 5 yards of separation in 0.2 nanoseconds.

Agree to disagree... I think that's the entire premise of a 3 high look, those safeties are charging down to snuff out anything underneath.  I do think Moore could have had a first down, so I suppose I'm squabbling over the "easy TD" part.

Would be an interesting question for Rod B next time he does "Talking Ball". 

...and agree with the poster above, we need Simms back for a game next year.

🤘

 

Edited November 18 by horns96

[Bobby Burton]

11 hours ago, Neil Leininger said:

Chris Simms with the perfect point about why Ewers struggles. He stays on his primary read to long to often. For instance take a look at this screen shot. The primary read is obviously Wingo on the out, but look at the middle of the field here. Moore easily scores a TD here and it's a much easier throw. Instead he throws to Wingo in tight coverage and throws the ball behind him instead of to the pylon where it would likely be a TD. Ewers never even looks at any other options other than Wingo and makes a poor throw on top of it. Luckily, Arkansas has a coverage break down on the next play and Golden is wide open for an easy TD, but the TD should have been made on this play.

Go through that whole play. Moore never turns to even look for the ball until way late in the process. I think this play was designed to go to Wingo and Sark told Quinn to force the issue.

[GDI]

11 hours ago, Hashtag said:

Texas should really do a day where the honor him at a game, its crazy what he had to go through due to our fanbase,  but I feel like our fans are so dumb sometimes and would not treat him with the respect he deserves even now days.

So we have dumb fans?  

I tend to think of the vast majority of them as pretty knowledgeable about football.  

However there are a few exceptions.  

[Hashtag]

3 minutes ago, GDI said:

So we have dumb fans?  

I tend to think of the vast majority of them as pretty knowledgeable about football.  

However there are a few exceptions.  

Does smearing feces on his vehicle count as dumb? I'd say so.

[HenryJames]

12 hours ago, Neil Leininger said:

Chris Simms with the perfect point about why Ewers struggles. He stays on his primary read to long to often. For instance take a look at this screen shot. The primary read is obviously Wingo on the out, but look at the middle of the field here. Moore easily scores a TD here and it's a much easier throw. Instead he throws to Wingo in tight coverage and throws the ball behind him instead of to the pylon where it would likely be a TD. Ewers never even looks at any other options other than Wingo and makes a poor throw on top of it. Luckily, Arkansas has a coverage break down on the next play and Golden is wide open for an easy TD, but the TD should have been made on this play.

If Quinn throws it there, it's a td. Wingo had the DB turned around.

[GDI]

23 minutes ago, Hashtag said:

Does smearing feces on his vehicle count as dumb? I'd say so.

You certainly know how to prove my point.

[Hashtag]

Just now, GDI said:

You certainly know how to prove my point.

Are death threats from our fanbase considered dumb? I'd say so.

[whereiend]

I've never had a problem with Simms. Dude sucked really bad in one big game against Colorado, and was mediocre in his games against OU, but every great Texas QB has had bad games here and there. Simms in the 2002 season was quite good; our problems that season were really on the OL.

Honestly I see Quinn and Simms on the same level. Not at that Colt/VY level, but both are/were good QBs and we have had a hell of a lot worse at the position.

[ElCafetero]

Can someone explain what happened bc I’m not old enough to know😭

[horns96]

12 hours ago, ElCafetero said:

Can someone explain what happened bc I’m not old enough to know😭

OTF would need to dedicate two hours to an episode in the offseason to give the dirt, but wikipedia does a decent job of summarizing. 

[Smitty76]

On 11/17/2024 at 9:20 PM, Neil Leininger said:

Chris Simms with the perfect point about why Ewers struggles. He stays on his primary read to long to often. For instance take a look at this screen shot. The primary read is obviously Wingo on the out, but look at the middle of the field here. Moore easily scores a TD here and it's a much easier throw. Instead he throws to Wingo in tight coverage and throws the ball behind him instead of to the pylon where it would likely be a TD. Ewers never even looks at any other options other than Wingo and makes a poor throw on top of it. Luckily, Arkansas has a coverage break down on the next play and Golden is wide open for an easy TD, but the TD should have been made on this play.

I’m not sure what you think you’re seeing here with regard to Moore. Yes, he’s beaten no. 3 to the inside, but they know the easy throw is over the middle and they’re sitting on it. You have the DB directly in front of him still squared to the line of scrimmage.   Moore’s angle is taking the potential throw  directly into his path. There’s another and  6 yards upfield giving him the ability to jump that throw. If Quinn throws that ball, there’s a good chance it gets picked off as iit has the be a low, line drive throw given the distance. The DB is literally sitting on it. Arkansas had this well-defended. A good throw to Wingo is the best option here as you’re throwing outside to a big receiver in a one on one matchup rather than underneath in into zone coverage with a man back and another sitting in that route. Later in the game, Quinn drilled a similar outside route for a TD. There’s TD on the play after this one was partially set up by this play. The same DB that would likely have intercepted or tipped a pass to Moore on this play sat down in coverage again and Texas managed to draw the deep defender off, leave Golden wide open. Your read here isn’t correct. 

[Smitty76]

On 11/18/2024 at 11:02 AM, whereiend said:

I've never had a problem with Simms. Dude sucked really bad in one big game against Colorado, and was mediocre in his games against OU, but every great Texas QB has had bad games here and there. Simms in the 2002 season was quite good; our problems that season were really on the OL.

Honestly I see Quinn and Simms on the same level. Not at that Colt/VY level, but both are/were good QBs and we have had a hell of a lot worse at the position.

Simms was a weak link on the 2002 team. He missed too many throws, made too many poor decisions. He threw 12 picks against 26 TDs. His skilled players were the best group we’ve ever had as a whole. WRs were Sloan Thomas, BJ Johnson, and Roy Williams, and we had Selvin Young and Cedric Benson. Simms had been throwing to that same group of receivers for three seasons. Imagine what we’d be looking at right now if the group of receivers we have had been together and with Quinn for three years under the same offensive scheme, and our biggest. Most talented back (much like Benson) were healthy.  Opponents would have to respect the run more because we’d be able to run between the tackles. QE would be more locked in with his receivers. His only big target at WR is a freshman. I respect what Quinn has done under immense pressure. Simms never won big games. Quinn has. Last week at Arkansas, they sat in zone, the OL was inconsistent, and we couldn’t run the ball. Quinn wasn’t as sharp as he can be. The Razorbacks, who have shown that they can be very good when they’re on, were playing at home and extremely motivated. You know what impressed me? Quinn, after a stagnant half, under pressure with momentum going to wrong way, stepped up and led his offense to a decisive TD drive, and threw his best ball of the game on the TD, the to ice the game, picked up a late first down on a keeper going straight at a defender Quinn is a better WB than Simms was. It’s not even close. Simms had a 59% completion rate with a wealth of talent downfield. Lost most every important game he ever played.