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Note on Javion Hilson (Friday 10:14am CST)


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7 minutes ago, Gerry Hamilton said:

Not all runs are the same, is what I would say.

Could you go into detail? Maybe on a Youtube video if you want. I’ve always been curious by the “making a push” in recruiting.

 

like they werent doing that already? Or any other school was pushing?

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1 hour ago, Gerry Hamilton said:

That's not a deal breaker either way. Meaning if Hart had stayed in 2026 and signed with Michigan ... Hilson wasn't going to Michigan. Hilson isn't following a QB or teammate. 

Hilson goes to A&M it will be development, ability to start the development on the field early and A&M went way above and beyond.

A DE talking about development as something sacred and then going to play for a Mike Elko team is like these guys that talk about "academics" and then signing with LSU or Oklahoma. 

Mike Elko has been a FBS DC or HC for going on 16 years now. In those 16 years, 4 DEs have been drafted. Duke Eljifor in the 6th from Wake. Khalid Kareem in the 5th at ND. Demarvion Leal (a high 5 star) in the 3rd and Michael Clemons in the 4th at ATM. 

If you give Elko all of the development credit for the defensive players drafted under his watch in 15 years, meaning guys drafted within 3 years following a year of his coaching as DC or HC, he's had 24 guys drafted. Kevin Johnson, a DB at WF, was drafted the spring of 2015, roughly one year after Elko got to campus. Jerry Tillery was drafted in the 1st round 3 years after Elko's one year on ND's campus had passed. Both of those are as stretchy as you can get for credit to the coach and those are the only 2 1st round defensive players ever drafted around Elko. 

Elko's highest ranked 5 stars, Leal and Jaylon Jones, eventually went in the 3rd and 6th. 

We've done a lot of review about Elko the Developer mythology at Surly. The dude is basically an excellent X's & O's guy with an extremely checkered history as a developer of talent on defense. 

For comparison, Kwiatkowski has put 5 DEs into the league and 2 were 1st round picks, along with a 2nd, 3rd and 7th. Never mind the 39 total defensive players with one less year of credit as a DC. 

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9 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

A DE talking about development as something sacred and then going to play for a Mike Elko team is like these guys that talk about "academics" and then signing with LSU or Oklahoma. 

Mike Elko has been a FBS DC or HC for going on 16 years now. In those 16 years, 4 DEs have been drafted. Duke Eljifor in the 6th from Wake. Khalid Kareem in the 5th at ND. Demarvion Leal (a high 5 star) in the 3rd and Michael Clemons in the 4th at ATM. 

If you give Elko all of the development credit for the defensive players drafted under his watch in 15 years, meaning guys drafted within 3 years following a year of his coaching as DC or HC, he's had 24 guys drafted. Kevin Johnson, a DB at WF, was drafted the spring of 2015, roughly one year after Elko got to campus. Jerry Tillery was drafted in the 1st round 3 years after Elko's one year on ND's campus had passed. Both of those are as stretchy as you can get for credit to the coach and those are the only 2 1st round defensive players ever drafted around Elko. 

Elko's highest ranked 5 stars, Leal and Jaylon Jones, eventually went in the 3rd and 6th. 

We've done a lot of review about Elko the Developer mythology at Surly. The dude is basically an excellent X's & O's guy with an extremely checkered history as a developer of talent on defense. 

For comparison, Kwiatkowski has put 5 DEs into the league and 2 were 1st round picks, along with a 2nd, 3rd and 7th. Never mind the 39 total defensive players with one less year of credit as a DC. 

Can someone pass this on to Javion Hilson

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8 minutes ago, TTown said:

Other sites are saying Hilson is not going to be in the class. Looks like Aggie $$ , but again who knows until next Wednesday. Gotta ramp up on Marshall. 🤘

Bobby and OTF prefer you to name sources. He doesn't get a sandy tw*t when you present info from other sites.

 

Nahlin at IT is saying he doesn't expect Hilson in the Texas class.

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1 minute ago, HookemDTX said:

Bobby and OTF prefer you to name sources. He doesn't get a sandy tw*t when you present info from other sites.

 

Nahlin at IT is saying he doesn't expect Hilson in the Texas class

I try to be respectful and also read on some other teams sites as well. When you become a Moderator let me know , until then I'll choose to respond as I wish .🤘

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4 minutes ago, Gerry Hamilton said:

I posted this … because it’s trending away quickly. 

And with the Michigan $ now who knows if they are a player before all is said and done. But I know you mentioned he would probably stay in SEC  etc. Crazy times coming until Wednesday.

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