snugsie Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 What do you think his (Quinn) draft rank will be? I think he might fall to 3rd or 4th round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texcoyote15 Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 I know I am beating a dead horse here, but those two fade pass down in the red zone just baffled me. It’s almost like Sark was just happy with a field goal. There has to be something else better to call there with the game on the line. It reminds me of the plays we ran against Washington in the playoffs last year at the end of the game. I am not claiming to be a player caller, but I’d like the most high percentage play on the sheet. Those throws are very low percentage throws. If I’m going to lose I want it to be firing my best bullet at them. Sark’s motto has been All Gas No Brakes. That’s great and fun and looks good on a T-shirt but alot of times we don’t see it on the field. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Gerry Hamilton Posted December 8 Author Moderators Share Posted December 8 Just now, snugsie said: What do you think his (Quinn) draft rank will be? I think he might fall to 3rd or 4th round. I personally wouldn't have Quinn on my board if I was an NFL GM. He just hasn't progressed/developed now with 31 career starts. And I was very high on his ability/upside coming out of HS and headed into year three in what he could make the jump to be ... but it just hasn't happened. And it's critical situation turnovers, red zone issues in winning time and being a playmaker for a team when it's absolutely needed. But he will be drafted, and QB's tend to get drafted higher than they should and I get it. He will perform extremely well in the "on air" pro day workouts. How does the NFL weigh the on field vs. pro day workouts? If Carson Beck or Quinn are 1st round picks ... NFL GM's are nuts/riverboat gambling with many millions of their owners money IMO. 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artemis_Maximus Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 The question isn’t about Arch replacing Quinn, it’s about bringing in Arch in certain situations to avoid the defense from pinning their ears back and coming after an immobile QB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harveycmd Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 3 minutes ago, Gerry Hamilton said: I personally wouldn't have Quinn on my board if I was an NFL GM. He just hasn't progressed/developed now with 31 career starts. And I was very high on his ability/upside coming out of HS and headed into year three in what he could make the jump to be ... but it just hasn't happened. And it's critical situation turnovers, red zone issues in winning time and being a playmaker for a team when it's absolutely needed. But he will be drafted, and QB's tend to get drafted higher than they should and I get it. He will perform extremely well in the "on air" pro day workouts. How does the NFL weigh the on field vs. pro day workouts? If Carson Beck or Quinn are 1st round picks ... NFL GM's are nuts/riverboat gambling with many millions of their owners money IMO. My guess is that more than a few NFL GMs will think Quinn can be a serviceable back-up, and he'll be drafted third or fourth round. I think Beck is a much bigger gamble than Quinn, He's not as accurate and he doesn't make as many good throws. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harveycmd Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 1 minute ago, Artemis_Maximus said: The question isn’t about Arch replacing Quinn, it’s about bringing in Arch in certain situations to avoid the defense from pinning their ears back and coming after an immobile QB. Don't you think Sark would have already done that if he was going to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snugsie Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 8 minutes ago, Gerry Hamilton said: I personally wouldn't have Quinn on my board if I was an NFL GM. He just hasn't progressed/developed now with 31 career starts. And I was very high on his ability/upside coming out of HS and headed into year three in what he could make the jump to be ... but it just hasn't happened. And it's critical situation turnovers, red zone issues in winning time and being a playmaker for a team when it's absolutely needed. But he will be drafted, and QB's tend to get drafted higher than they should and I get it. He will perform extremely well in the "on air" pro day workouts. How does the NFL weigh the on field vs. pro day workouts? If Carson Beck or Quinn are 1st round picks ... NFL GM's are nuts/riverboat gambling with many millions of their owners money IMO. Yes very inconsistent. We still see the same flashes he showed freshmen year. Still see the same freshman year mistakes too. The Arch era begins soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashtag Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 3 minutes ago, harveycmd said: My guess is that more than a few NFL GMs will think Quinn can be a serviceable back-up, and he'll be drafted third or fourth round. I think Beck is a much bigger gamble than Quinn, He's not as accurate and he doesn't make as many good throws. I’d bet Beck is selected before Quinn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harveycmd Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 Just now, Hashtag said: I’d bet Beck is selected before Quinn. He might be, but that doesn't make him a better pick. Who was the better QB yesterday? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snugsie Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 11 minutes ago, Gerry Hamilton said: I personally wouldn't have Quinn on my board if I was an NFL GM. He just hasn't progressed/developed now with 31 career starts. And I was very high on his ability/upside coming out of HS and headed into year three in what he could make the jump to be ... but it just hasn't happened. And it's critical situation turnovers, red zone issues in winning time and being a playmaker for a team when it's absolutely needed. But he will be drafted, and QB's tend to get drafted higher than they should and I get it. He will perform extremely well in the "on air" pro day workouts. How does the NFL weigh the on field vs. pro day workouts? If Carson Beck or Quinn are 1st round picks ... NFL GM's are nuts/riverboat gambling with many millions of their owners money IMO. And for as much as Sark has tried to make Quinn sound like a leader I don't think it's true. I think we try to wish that into existence. He folds under pressure. His mechanics suffer in critical moments. His body language shows he isn't confident when it matters. He does well at times and at other times he looks completely lost. I didn't expect that from a year 3 QB under Sark. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashtag Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 1 minute ago, harveycmd said: He might be, but that doesn't make him a better pick. Who was the better QB yesterday? Beck is most certainly a better pick than Quinn for the NFL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harveycmd Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 By the way, Quinn was the best offensive skill player for either team on the field yesterday. Itwasn't Etienne or Golden or Moore. It was Quinn. He didn't make the game winning play when he could have, but he made more big plays than anyone else. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harveycmd Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 2 minutes ago, Hashtag said: Beck is most certainly a better pick than Quinn for the NFL. Why? Is he more accurate? Does he read defenses better? Does he make more plays? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Recruiter Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 Quinn is very good at getting 1st downs, but not Touchdowns 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas fan in Georgia Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 31 minutes ago, Bobby Burton said: Context matters. Texas turned heavily to the run in all of those games because they were up. And I had no problem with it. The primary difference this week was the run game was nowhere to be found. Quinn had at least three throws to the end zone that could have won that game for Texas. He didn’t connect on them. He has to be better. I thought wisner had some nice runs to the outside on a couple plays. But sark kept trying to push him up the middle. Which was never going to work against UGA. My question is why did we not see more arch and more importantly why did sark not pull out a play action pass with arch? I thought the 4th down call where the ball was snapped between arch and converted, but UGA for the most part knew what was coming with arch. A play action pass would’ve been there . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashtag Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 6 minutes ago, harveycmd said: Why? Is he more accurate? Does he read defenses better? Does he make more plays? Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thanos72 Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 (edited) Quinn might do it once but if we need him against a strong rush, it’s over. He simply can’t process fast enough and has well below average pocket presence. He is good enough to beat anyone, including the longhorns. Id give Arch the start in the 3rd whether if for no other reason than to break tendency. Gives Quinn a chance to watch what’s going on but could also break the 2nd half doldrums. Sark didn’t help Quinn last night but Sark has also altered his play calling to protect vs attack because of Quinn. What has me yelling at Sark through the tv is knowing arch’s natural gifts, deep ball and mobility, are exactly what ga and most teams in the cfp struggle with. Edited December 8 by Thanos72 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Recruiter Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 10 minutes ago, Hashtag said: Beck is most certainly a better pick than Quinn for the NFL. Georgia has won games where they overcame multiple turnovers by Beck. They won despite of him not because of him. Quinn and Beck are not that different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harveycmd Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 1 minute ago, Hashtag said: Yes I disagree. Now, I said during the second bye week that Sark needed to make the switch to Arch if he wanted to have a chance at running the table and winning the national title. The only logical reason I can come up with for not making the switch is that Sark thought it might result in locker room problems, and that was worse than Quinn's down side. I hope he was right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashtag Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 1 minute ago, Ace Recruiter said: Georgia has won games where they overcame multiple turnovers by Beck. They won despite of him not because of him. Quinn and Beck are not that different And beck has led them to victories in multiple games including games where they have trailed. Has Quinn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harveycmd Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 1 minute ago, Hashtag said: And beck has led them to victories in multiple games including games where they have trailed. Has Quinn? Who did Beck come back against this season other than UMass and Georgia Tech? They were down early against Florida, but not in the second half. Same thing with Tennessee. I ask again: Who played better yesterday? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTown Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 Simple answer is no as of now. He is what he is , and we damn near have to play perfect in the other phases. We may win game 1, but after that you have to score. I hope he can but agree with CJ. You can win with him, not because of him. Let Arch cook more period. Everything is still attainable.🙏🤘 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Haliburton Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 Kirby is Sark's DADDY simple as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harveycmd Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 2 minutes ago, TTown said: Simple answer is no as of now. He is what he is , and we damn near have to play perfect in the other phases. We may win game 1, but after that you have to score. I hope he can but agree with CJ. You can win with him, not because of him. Let Arch cook more period. Everything is still attainable.🙏🤘 Sark has given no indication that he's willing to give significant time to Arch in the current circumstances. There isn't going to be a wholesale Arch red zone or any other package. He's going with Quinn unless Quinn gets knocked out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HookEm Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 1 hour ago, Waxahorn said: Seems to me our play calling was off down in the red zone. QE should be throwing 7- and 8-yard passes instead of jump balls in the end zone. Just saying. They weren’t jump balls. He just can’t throw a fade or post. All 3 of those were great routes and open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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