Hoops: College coaching carousel 2025

[pinkman_90]

3 minutes ago, Jordan91 said:

They are not more talented. They do not have a point guard. They do not have a center. Did you see those high ball screens they ran with Shedrick? It never worked and that’s because he is to slow to actually get the ball. 

Hawaii vs UCSD on right now.  No googling describe the offensive set that UCSD just ran.  

[Jordan91]

2 minutes ago, pinkman_90 said:

How’d I make it personal?  By joking that Rodney Terry should tuck you in?  Yeah real personal.  
 

Then you try to deflect by asking what offense each team is running in some random big12 game I’m not watching. You are in full meltdown mode.

I have had numerous back and forth dialogue with you about basketball this year. If that was a joke it certainly did not come off that way. Let’s just leave it at that. I do not like getting into back and forth insults. We can agree to disagree on Sean Miller. Let’s just leave it at that and move on. 

[Hashtag]

We should probably  just fire now and start moving on to find the next coach. 

Edited 5 hours ago by Hashtag

[Jordan91]

3 minutes ago, pinkman_90 said:

Hawaii vs UCSD on right now.  No googling describe the offensive set that UCSD just ran.  

First of all nobody refers to basketball offense as sets anymore. You are about three decades behind on that. 
 

[pinkman_90]

Just now, Jordan91 said:

First of all nobody refers to basketball offense as sets anymore. You are about three decades behind on that. 
 

Got it so you can’t answer.  Looks like you just lost your posting privileges.  

[bierce]

7 minutes ago, pinkman_90 said:

Hawaii vs UCSD on right now.  No googling describe the offensive set that UCSD just ran.  

Not Jordan here, but I don't have ESPN+, so why don't you tell me? 

Edited 5 hours ago by bierce

[pinkman_90]

4 minutes ago, bierce said:

Not Jordan here, but I don't have ESPN+, so why don't you tell me? 

Nope you couldn’t answer.  Test failed.  I was expected to leave my bedroom to go back out and watch BYU so it’s on you to figure it out. 

[TexasFanatic]

40 minutes ago, bierce said:

Damn you to hell for all eternity if you are willing to sacrifice our volleyball program.

Shhh

[bierce]

1 minute ago, pinkman_90 said:

Nope you couldn’t answer.  Test failed.  I was expected to leave my bedroom to go back out and watch BYU so it’s on you to figure it out. 

Except I'm not watching the game and I can't watch the game.  How can I be said to fail a test when I can't even see the question?

[qaertyisthatdude]

8 minutes ago, Hashtag said:

We should probably just fire now and start moving on to find the next coach. 

Could do that.  As long as it's not an interim turned full time HC again.  But CDC won't do it until the end of the season.

[pinkman_90]

4 minutes ago, bierce said:

Except I'm not watching the game and I can't watch the game.  How can I be said to fail a test when I can't even see the question?

Valid point but I didn’t make the rules

[bierce]

6 minutes ago, pinkman_90 said:

Valid point but I didn’t make the rules

It's your question, so it is your rules.

[pinkman_90]

1 minute ago, bierce said:

It's your question, so it is your rules.

Applying the same rules that the Jordan fella set in a question back to him.  You jumped in so take what you can get

[TexasDeathStar]

Ight boys, daddy’s putting belt to ass. @bierce and @Jordan91 y’all seem to be very vocal on the hoops stuff. Tell me why you are anti Sean Miller since he’s the name that’s been brought up, and caused such a meltdown on here tonight. I’m pretty mentally challenged when it comes to the nuances and fine details of bball, bec…..well, football 🤷🏻‍♂️ so I’m just looking for the WHY? And, if you think RT needs another crack at landing the plane (which isn’t easy to do in 2025 I hear) why?

[Jordan91]

30 minutes ago, bierce said:

Not Jordan here, but I don't have ESPN+, so why don't you tell me? 

He asked what offensive sets they are running. Not much I can do with that. Been decades since I have heard that term in basketball. 

[bierce]

I don't see the rationale behind not hiring Wade but hiring a guy 13 years older who has the same federal investigation about his doings a few years back.

I don't see the rationale behind hiring a guy who probably already makes close to $5M a year when you can get someone a lot younger and a lot hungrier for 1/2 to 2/3 that amount and use the savings to fund the NIL package.

I don't think Miller is as good as an architect of offense as Murray, Wade, or even Pitino. 

I don't see the rationale spending a ton of money to hire a guy who is 10 years removed from his period of great success, when it was probably fueled by playing outside the rules.  Now everyone can do what he was doing, so what advantage does he have? 

I grant Gerry's point about Miller getting a lot of international recruits, but I don't give him a pass for not making the tournament last year without Freemantle and maybe not making this year with Freemantle.

Miller made the second weekend 5 times in 7 years.  That is a major accomplishment.

It also happened ten years ago.  Was Barnes as desirable in 2016 as he was in 2008?

[Jordan91]

7 minutes ago, TexasDeathStar said:

Ight boys, daddy’s putting belt to ass. @bierce and @Jordan91 y’all seem to be very vocal on the hoops stuff. Tell me why you are anti Sean Miller since he’s the name that’s been brought up, and caused such a meltdown on here tonight. I’m pretty mentally challenged when it comes to the nuances and fine details of bball, bec…..well, football 🤷🏻‍♂️ so I’m just looking for the WHY? And, if you think RT needs another crack at landing the plane (which isn’t easy to do in 2025 I hear) why?

He’s done. It’s not the boos. When you have fans leave eight minutes early on your home court that gets you in trouble. Best way to force a change is with your money. Sean Miller with the same NIL? It would produce better results, but over the long haul I don’t see it. He’s 58 and far removed from his days at Arizona, a basketball school by the way, and he’s not killing it at Xavier. I don’t see him consistently finishing in the top half of the conference consistently. A conference that currently has three football schools at the top. Gerry likes him and I would love to be wrong, because that means Texas is winning at a high level. I just don’t think Texas is that interested in being at that level. If they are, they aren’t paying enough to get to that level. Just my opinion. 

[Jordan91]

5 minutes ago, bierce said:

I don't see the rationale behind not hiring Wade but hiring a guy 13 years older who has the same federal investigation about his doings a few years back.

I don't see the rationale behind hiring a guy who probably already makes close to $5M a year when you can get someone a lot younger and a lot hungrier for 1/2 to 2/3 that amount and use the savings to fund the NIL package.

I don't think Miller is as good as an architect of offense as Murray, Wade, or even Pitino. 

I don't see the rationale spending a ton of money to hire a guy who is 10 years removed from his period of great success, when it was probably fueled by playing outside the rules.  Now everyone can do what he was doing, so what advantage does he have? 

I grant Gerry's point about Miller getting a lot of international recruits, but I don't give him a pass for not making the tournament last year without Freemantle and maybe not making this year with Freemantle.

Miller made the second weekend 5 times in 7 years.  That is a major accomplishment.

It also happened ten years ago.  Was Barnes as desirable in 2016 as he was in 2008?

This!!

[TexasDeathStar]

6 minutes ago, bierce said:

I don't see the rationale behind not hiring Wade but hiring a guy 13 years older who has the same federal investigation about his doings a few years back.

I don't see the rationale behind hiring a guy who probably already makes close to $5M a year when you can get someone a lot younger and a lot hungrier for 1/2 to 2/3 that amount and use the savings to fund the NIL package.

I don't think Miller is as good as an architect of offense as Murray, Wade, or even Pitino. 

I don't see the rationale spending a ton of money to hire a guy who is 10 years removed from his period of great success, when it was probably fueled by playing outside the rules.  Now everyone can do what he was doing, so what advantage does he have? 

I grant Gerry's point about Miller getting a lot of international recruits, but I don't give him a pass for not making the tournament last year without Freemantle and maybe not making this year with Freemantle.

Miller made the second weekend 5 times in 7 years.  That is a major accomplishment.

It also happened ten years ago.  Was Barnes as desirable in 2016 as he was in 2008?

Well said. That’s all I wanted to hear was the WHY in your opinions, without having to analyze every other comment in here. And not being a hoops diehard myself. Hat tip to you.

[TexasDeathStar]

4 minutes ago, Jordan91 said:

He’s done. It’s not the boos. When you have fans leave eight minutes early on your home court that gets you in trouble. Best way to force a change is with your money. Sean Miller with the same NIL? It would produce better results, but over the long haul I don’t see it. He’s 58 and far removed from his days at Arizona, a basketball school by the way, and he’s not killing it at Xavier. I don’t see him consistently finishing in the top half of the conference consistently. A conference that currently has three football schools at the top. Gerry likes him and I would love to be wrong, because that means Texas is winning at a high level. I just don’t think Texas is that interested in being at that level. If they are, they aren’t paying enough to get to that level. Just my opinion. 

Respect. Just looking for answers, and reasons on opinions is all. 

[bierce]

Just now, TexasDeathStar said:

Well said. That’s all I wanted to hear was the WHY in your opinions, without having to analyze every other comment in here. And not being a hoops diehard myself. Hat tip to you.

You got it.

It's pretty much a recap of comments I have made over the last couple of weeks.

Despite our experience with Smart crapping out (in large part because he redefined himself the moment he got here), I'm still of the opinion we would be better off hiring a guy who can define his career here.

I'd look at Murray, McCollum, and Pitino first before going an expensive but "safe" option of a guy who hasn't played above seed in the tournament for 12-15 years.

[bierce]

I have a question for the board.

Which P5 programs made the best hires in the last 7-8 years?

[TexasDeathStar]

12 minutes ago, bierce said:

I have a question for the board.

Which P5 programs made the best hires in the last 7-8 years?

Nate Oats, Buzz Williams? 🤷🏻‍♂️ tough to admit, but he has won. You could say Jon scheyer, but you could also say he’s just a familiar face, that got tossed in the driver seat of the machine that is Duke Basketball