Hashtag Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago (edited) This was an interesting topic on the live stream just now so I'll do a quick dive in the NFL and college going by wins and winning percentage of the top 10 coaches in each category. NFL Wins Don Shula - Defense Bill Belichick - Defense George Halas - Both? Any Reid - Offensive Tom Landry - Defensive Curly Lambeau - Offensive Paul Brown - Offensive Chuck Noll - Defensive Marty Shottenheimer - Defensive Dan Reeves - Offense Winning Percentage - Will only include coaches with 10+ seasons as HC John Madden - Defense Vince Lombardi - Offense George Allen - Defense Ray Flaherty - Offense George Halas - Both Don Shula - Defense Paul Brown - Offense Tony Dungy - Defense Andy Reid - Offense George Seifert - Defense Wins: 5/10 are defensive oriented coaches, 4/10 are offensive oriented, 1/10 being both because he was a severe micromanager and owned the team? Winning Percentage: 5/10 are defensive oriented, 4/10 are offensive oriented, see above for Halas(LOL) College Wins Joe Paterno - Both? Bobby Bowden - Offense Bear Bryant - Defense Pop Warner - Offensive Nick Saban - Defensive Mack Brown - Offense LaVell Edwards - Defense Tom Osbourne - Offense Lou Holtz - Defense Frank Beamer - Defense Winning Percentage Knute Rockne - Offense Frank Leahy - Offense Urban Meyer - Offense George Woodruff - Offense Barry Switzer - Offense Tom Osbourne - Offense Fielding Yost - Offense Percey Haughton - Offense Robert Neyland - Defense Bud Wilkinson - Both? Wins: 5/10 defensive, 4/10 offensive, 1/10 both with Joe Pa coaching both sides as an assistant? Winning Percentage: 8/10 are offensive, 1/10 are defense, and Bud was both? Maybe y'all can help me how with how to classify him. When you get winning percentage in college is where it gets completely off track and I believe that has to do with some of these guys being coaches before the forward pass was introduced. Feel free to add your theories here if you'd like as to why this may be? Also if I got any of the designations incorrect please feel free to let me know. Edited 5 hours ago by Hashtag 1 1 Quote
GDI Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago In today's game I think it has to be offense, and the offense has to be effective in both the run and passing game. If you are one dimensional you can only go so far. The good teams will be able to stop you. I know Sark is an offensive coach, but the team is both. A very good combination of offense and defense on this team. 1 Quote
Joe Zura Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago Na give me a special teams coordinator as my head coach 👀 Quote
MBHORNSFAN Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Joe Zura said: Na give me a special teams coordinator as my head coach 👀 Keep us posted 2 Quote
Hashtag Posted 4 hours ago Author Posted 4 hours ago 2024 CFP Teams(Team - HC Specialty(OFEI Ranking/DFEI Ranking): Notes Oregon - Defense(2/15) - Offense was better with defensive HC Georgia - Defense(13/12) - Relatively even Boise St - Defense(12/32) - Offense was better with defensive HC Arizona St - Offense(7/31) - Offense was better with offensive HC Texas - Offense(18/3) - Defense was better with offensive HC Penn St - Offense(5/4) - Relatively even Notre Dame - Defense(9/1) - Defense was better with defensive coach Ohio St - Offense(1/2) - Relatively even(easy to see why they came out as national champs) Tennessee - Offense(34/11) - Defense was better with offensive coach Indiana - Offense(4/20) - Offense was better with offensive coach SMU - Offense(41/14) - Defense was better with offensive coach Clemson - Offense(15/27) - Offense was better with offensive coach Quote
Hashtag Posted 4 hours ago Author Posted 4 hours ago Last 10 National Champions(HC Specialty(OFEI/DFEI Ranking): Notes Ohio St - Offense(1/2): Offense ranked higher with offensive coach Michigan - Offense(5/1): Defense ranked higher with offensive coach Georgia - Defense(1/1): Tie Georgia - Defense (3/1): Defense ranked higher with defensive coach Alabama - Defense(1/17): Offense ranked higher with defense coach LSU - Defense(1/11): Offense ranked higher with defensive coach Clemson - Offense(5/1): Defense ranked higher with offensive coach Alabama - Defense(7/2): Defense ranked higher with defensive coach Clemson - Offense(2/9): Offense ranked higher with offensive coach Alabama - Defense(17/1): Defense ranked higher with defensive coach The way it looks you basically want a defensive coach or a top defense to win a national title with a HC. The caveat of that being you have historic type offense such as 2019 LSU and 2020 Bama. The other caveat being you're just like, 2018 Clemson, 2021/2022 Georgia, and 2024 Ohio St and just an all around great team offensively and defensively 2 Quote
TexasMDcoach Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Nice job and good read Hashtag. Yes, you have to have both. I look at Tom Landry as an example who I watched in his career. He was a strong defensive coach but also was very innovative (shotgun, motions offense and situational strategies) and was tremendously successful. Hiring the right coordinators is key. 4 Quote
Migas & Fajitas Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Nice analysis. I would’ve labeled LaVell Edwards offensive. 1 Quote
Hashtag Posted 1 hour ago Author Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, Migas & Fajitas said: Nice analysis. I would’ve labeled LaVell Edwards offensive. While LaVell's teams had really good offenses he cut his teeth and came up on the defensive side as he was BYU's defensive coordinator before becoming HC. 1 Quote
qaertyisthatdude Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Out of curiosity, if Sark wins a natty this upcoming season, would he be the first HC that called his own offensive or defensive plays to win it all? I believe Jimbo was the offensive playcaller in 2013 when he won it all, but I would have to research and find out. 1 Quote
Hashtag Posted 1 hour ago Author Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 10 minutes ago, qaertyisthatdude said: Out of curiosity, if Sark wins a natty this upcoming season, would he be the first HC that called his own offensive or defensive plays to win it all? I believe Jimbo was the offensive playcaller in 2013 when he won it all, but I would have to research and find out. I researched this once and I believe Jimbo was the last to do it in 2013 as you noted. Prior to that I believe it was Steve Spurrier and Tom Osbourne in the 90s. There is some debate about Pete Carroll at USC in 2003/2004 but I couldn't find anything definitive regarding that but I do know that Norm Chow was his OC. So you essentially have only 3 coaches in the past 35 years to do it, 4 if you include Pete Carroll. Edited 1 hour ago by Hashtag 1 1 Quote
Jack Lala Posted 18 minutes ago Posted 18 minutes ago 5 hours ago, Hashtag said: This was an interesting topic on the live stream just now so I'll do a quick dive in the NFL and college going by wins and winning percentage of the top 10 coaches in each category. NFL Wins Don Shula - Defense Bill Belichick - Defense George Halas - Both? Any Reid - Offensive Tom Landry - Defensive Curly Lambeau - Offensive Paul Brown - Offensive Chuck Noll - Defensive Marty Shottenheimer - Defensive Dan Reeves - Offense Winning Percentage - Will only include coaches with 10+ seasons as HC John Madden - Defense Vince Lombardi - Offense George Allen - Defense Ray Flaherty - Offense George Halas - Both Don Shula - Defense Paul Brown - Offense Tony Dungy - Defense Andy Reid - Offense George Seifert - Defense Wins: 5/10 are defensive oriented coaches, 4/10 are offensive oriented, 1/10 being both because he was a severe micromanager and owned the team? Winning Percentage: 5/10 are defensive oriented, 4/10 are offensive oriented, see above for Halas(LOL) College Wins Joe Paterno - Both? Bobby Bowden - Offense Bear Bryant - Defense Pop Warner - Offensive Nick Saban - Defensive Mack Brown - Offense LaVell Edwards - Defense Tom Osbourne - Offense Lou Holtz - Defense Frank Beamer - Defense Winning Percentage Knute Rockne - Offense Frank Leahy - Offense Urban Meyer - Offense George Woodruff - Offense Barry Switzer - Offense Tom Osbourne - Offense Fielding Yost - Offense Percey Haughton - Offense Robert Neyland - Defense Bud Wilkinson - Both? Wins: 5/10 defensive, 4/10 offensive, 1/10 both with Joe Pa coaching both sides as an assistant? Winning Percentage: 8/10 are offensive, 1/10 are defense, and Bud was both? Maybe y'all can help me how with how to classify him. When you get winning percentage in college is where it gets completely off track and I believe that has to do with some of these guys being coaches before the forward pass was introduced. Feel free to add your theories here if you'd like as to why this may be? Also if I got any of the designations incorrect please feel free to let me know. It's funny that you bring this up. I asked the same question on C&F today. Both Bobby and Gerry thought it didn't matter. Quote
Hashtag Posted 17 minutes ago Author Posted 17 minutes ago (edited) 1 minute ago, Jack Lala said: It's funny that you bring this up. I asked the same question on C&F today. Both Bobby and Gerry thought it didn't matter. Your question is exactly why I wanted to do this. It's an interesting discussion! I didn't know much about Halas prior to putting this together this morning. He won but gosh dog he seemed like an unbearable person that no one would ring in because he owned the team. lol Edited 16 minutes ago by Hashtag 1 Quote
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