Ohio St. names Sayin as starter

[A-10HORN]

1 hour ago, Texus said:

My point is that they are practicing against a completely reworked DL. 
 

It reminds me of some recent year (Maybe first year Sark) when we all thought our DL was the strength of the team and going to be awesome only to learn during the season that they, in fact, were a bad DL that had been whooping up on an even worse OL in practices.  Turned out the practice reports were deceiving. 

Why would you just assume their DL is not good (maybe you aren’t)?  It’s Ohio st. I’m sure there will be a drop off but if nothing else they will be pretty good based on talent alone. Our OL won’t be as good as last year either. 

[Jarveaux]

8 hours ago, Texus said:

No way is he ready for this Texas D.  If they can't run the ball, they are toast.  Guess what?  They won't be able to run the ball.  

If Arch plays a solid game and doesn't turn the ball over, we win.  

i agree with you. However i don’t believe it’s an if . I believe  Arch is going to play his heart out & let his talent shine. we’ve got the support on offense & defensively to carry Arch through any adversity he may face.

[Lnghrn]

8 hours ago, LovingBuckeye said:

He’s bigger than Baker Mayfield and Kyler Murray

I don’t think think he has either’s scrambling ability 

[LovingBuckeye]

Just now, Lnghrn said:

I don’t think think he has either’s scrambling ability 

I never viewed Baker as much of a scrambler but Sayin is definitely more athletic than Baker. 

[Lnghrn]

7 minutes ago, LovingBuckeye said:

I never viewed Baker as much of a scrambler but Sayin is definitely more athletic than Baker. 

Baker was a pretty athletic qb in college.  He’s no Kyler Murray, but he’s slowed down after a lot of hits in the nfl.  The clips I’ve seen on sayin don’t exactly scream athletic qb, not even in the baker college level.   OSU has an incredible receiving core.  OSU wins the game if they can protect sayin from the best pass rush he will see all season.  If not UT wins the game.  

[A-10HORN]

1 hour ago, LovingBuckeye said:

I never viewed Baker as much of a scrambler but Sayin is definitely more athletic than Baker. 

No. That’s not correct 

[FootLaw]

When he meets our front 7...

 

[THookem]

 

[Tuco Ramirez]

8 hours ago, LovingBuckeye said:

I never viewed Baker as much of a scrambler but Sayin is definitely more athletic than Baker. 

Baker was an ok scrambler. 

 

[LovingBuckeye]

7 hours ago, A-10HORN said:

No. That’s not correct 

I’m a diehard Cleveland Browns fan as well. It’s 100% correct.

[A-10HORN]

1 hour ago, LovingBuckeye said:

I’m a diehard Cleveland Browns fan as well. It’s 100% correct.

I’ve watched as much Sayin tape as you. And I’ve unfortunately seen a ton of baker. I guess we can agree to disagree 

[LovingBuckeye]

18 minutes ago, A-10HORN said:

I’ve watched as much Sayin tape as you. And I’ve unfortunately seen a ton of baker. I guess we can agree to disagree 

Yeah, I think it’s best that we just agree to disagree. I’ve read every practice report for the past two years, listened to nearly every Ohio State podcast and watched every snap Baker took in the NFL preseason and regular season. I’m not sure where this reputation of Baker being athletic is coming from.

[A-10HORN]

1 hour ago, LovingBuckeye said:

Yeah, I think it’s best that we just agree to disagree. I’ve read every practice report for the past two years, listened to nearly every Ohio State podcast and watched every snap Baker took in the NFL preseason and regular season. I’m not sure where this reputation of Baker being athletic is coming from.

Sounds good man. He has finished in the top 10 for QBs for rushing the past few years. His escape ability is pretty good. 

[LovingBuckeye]

3 minutes ago, A-10HORN said:

Sounds good man. He has finished in the top 10 for QBs for rushing the past few years. His escape ability is pretty good. 

I can definitely agree with you there that Baker, although I wouldn’t call him athletic (comparatively at least), I would definitely agree that he is “sneaky” athletic, or more athletic than given credit for. I think Sayin’s reputation will be very similar once he gets more playing time.

[A-10HORN]

17 minutes ago, LovingBuckeye said:

I can definitely agree with you there that Baker, although I wouldn’t call him athletic (comparatively at least), I would definitely agree that he is “sneaky” athletic, or more athletic than given credit for. I think Sayin’s reputation will be very similar once he gets more playing time.

Yeah. You’re saying “Sayin is definitely more athletic” than Baker. I guess we’ll see 

 

we play each other these next two years so we will get to know him well

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[A-10HORN]

52 minutes ago, LovingBuckeye said:

I can definitely agree with you there that Baker, although I wouldn’t call him athletic (comparatively at least), I would definitely agree that he is “sneaky” athletic, or more athletic than given credit for. I think Sayin’s reputation will be very similar once he gets more playing time.

And for the record, I think Sayin is a better pure passer than Arch. 
 

Ohio st is gonna be ridiculous on offense in 26

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[LovingBuckeye]

55 minutes ago, A-10HORN said:

And for the record, I think Sayin is a better pure passer than Arch. 
 

Ohio st is gonna be ridiculous on offense in 26

There’s a very real possibility Ohio State returns all 11 starters next season.

I think Arch compares very favorably to Trevor Lawrence. How do you feel about that comparison?

[A-10HORN]

1 minute ago, LovingBuckeye said:

There’s a very real possibility Ohio State returns all 11 starters next season.

I think Arch compares very favorably to Trevor Lawrence. How do you feel about that comparison?

Yeah. Ohio St will be pretty season #1 next year. 
 

I think that’s a pretty decent comparison for Arch (off of ability and projection obviously). Trevor had more weapons around him though. 

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[LovingBuckeye]

1 minute ago, A-10HORN said:

Yeah. Ohio St will be pretty season #1 next year. 
 

I think that’s a pretty decent comparison for Arch (off of ability and projection obviously). Trevor had more weapons around him though. 

I just remember Trevor breaking off like a 60 yard TD run against Ohio State in the playoffs. Arch’s legs worry me as well.

[Texus]

15 hours ago, LovingBuckeye said:

I wouldn’t call it a reworked defensive line. They are all 4 experienced players who have been in the program. Ohio State’s starting DT’s should be dominant. 

If replacing the entire starting DL doesn’t count as reworked, I’m not sure what qualifies.  

[TBux]

13 hours ago, LovingBuckeye said:

I never viewed Baker as much of a scrambler but Sayin is definitely more athletic than Baker. 

I don't see that at all but Sayin is no stiff either...excellent pocket presence and maneuvers well in the pocket. Very capable of extending plays when the pocket breaks down and he's got a few weapons he can look for downfield.

My take is that we have two young and inexperienced QB's. One is at home facing a great D front - are they the best we'll see, I don't know but certainly one of the 3 best we'll see all year - with an experienced group in front of him that has been thru the wars.  The other is on the road in front of 100,000+ hostile fans with a re-tooled inexperienced Oline facing a very good Dline - all of whom have played alot of meaningful snaps, just limited starts - and what I believe to be one of the best back 7s in the game. If the Dline plays as well as expected, this years Buckeye defense will be better than last.

It's gonna be loud, I think your Oline is gonna struggle to protect Arch and he's gonna have his hands full and if he tries to force things into that  back 7, it's gonna be a problem. Young QB, inexperienced Oline, big home field advantage here..... I think that's the difference in the game

[LovingBuckeye]

23 minutes ago, Texus said:

If replacing the entire starting DL doesn’t count as reworked, I’m not sure what qualifies.  

Reworked just as such a negative connotation. Ohio State’s DL will be one of the best in college football.

[LovingBuckeye]

23 minutes ago, TBux said:

I don't see that at all but Sayin is no stiff either...excellent pocket presence and maneuvers well in the pocket. Very capable of extending plays when the pocket breaks down and he's got a few weapons he can look for downfield.

My take is that we have two young and inexperienced QB's. One is at home facing a great D front - are they the best we'll see, I don't know but certainly one of the 3 best we'll see all year - with an experienced group in front of him that has been thru the wars.  The other is on the road in front of 100,000+ hostile fans with a re-tooled inexperienced Oline facing a very good Dline - all of whom have played alot of meaningful snaps, just limited starts - and what I believe to be one of the best back 7s in the game. If the Dline plays as well as expected, this years Buckeye defense will be better than last.

It's gonna be loud, I think your Oline is gonna struggle to protect Arch and he's gonna have his hands full and if he tries to force things into that  back 7, it's gonna be a problem. Young QB, inexperienced Oline, big home field advantage here..... I think that's the difference in the game

I agree. I think Texas’ OL is going to struggle massively.

[TBux]

25 minutes ago, Texus said:

If replacing the entire starting DL doesn’t count as reworked, I’m not sure what qualifies.  

Reworked is fine, but these kids are legit players with a ton of experience, if not starts. Every one of this years "starters" on the DL played meaningful snaps in last years Cotton Bowl. Kenyatta Jacksoon DE played almost the entire 1st half after JTT went down early and another KMac DT was in the game on the 4th qtr stand at the goal line. They performed very well then, on the biggest of stages at crunch time and I have no problems putting these kids on the field against anybody anywhere    

[LovingBuckeye]

8 minutes ago, TBux said:

Reworked is fine, but these kids are legit players with a ton of experience, if not starts. Every one of this years "starters" on the DL played meaningful snaps in last years Cotton Bowl. Kenyatta Jacksoon DE played almost the entire 1st half after JTT went down early and another KMac DT was in the game on the 4th qtr stand at the goal line. They performed very well then, on the biggest of stages at crunch time and I have no problems putting these kids on the field against anybody anywhere    

Absolutely. Not only are they experienced and have played in big moments, the reporting out of spring and fall camps is that they have all taken the next steps in their games as well.

Ohio State should have the better DT’s in this matchup. Texas will have the better edges and most likely better linebackers, although Ohio State’s linebackers are going to be nasty as well.