James Franklin Fired

[Texas fan in Georgia]

13 minutes ago, Migas & Fajitas said:

Why would Adidas want this move?

I’ve never heard of an apparel company be a driving force for the firing of a head coach. Dan lanning better not lose to somebody he shouldn’t lose to or Nike may force him out 😂

[Austalgia]

I know a donor myself that could have paid it.  They have what Texas has.  The will and the resources.  It’s not even hurting some of these guys on the money.  It’s money and fandom that few can understand.  Michigan and Ohio State same if it came to it. I am actually surprised he is fired before Michigan coach.  Michigan might have more resources.  

Edited 6 hours ago by Austalgia

[Longhorngreg]

1 hour ago, Hashtag said:

Florida is a better job than Penn St

Maybe not if you are from Pennsylvania 

[Longhorngreg]

1 hour ago, SuperDave0805 said:

Franklin is better than Richt but we will see

By what metric?

[Longhorngreg]

1 hour ago, Gerry Hamilton said:

Again, not arguing he didn't deserve it. 

What I'm saying, once again, is the next coach will have truly unrealistic expectations. It has nothing to do with Franklin. 

It's the nature of the beast. 

Reality is this for Steve Sarkisian at Texas a nature of the beast conversation:

Say Texas goes 9-3 this season and misses the playoff. And say Texas goes 9-3 in 2026 and misses the playoff. 

At least 50%, if not 65-70% of the Texas fan base would be ready to move and go get the next guy. 

It's a NC or bust expectation that will lead to many coaching failures because of a 16 team playoff on the way. NC's are going to be more difficult than ever to win. 

When exactly 3 active coaches actually have a ring, it is truly an unrealistic expectation especially when firing the old and bringing in the new is likely a $100+ million decision 

[Longhorngreg]

15 minutes ago, Austalgia said:

I know a donor myself that could have paid it.  They have what Texas has.  The will and the resources.  It’s not even hurting some of these guys on the money.  It’s money and fandom that few can understand.  Michigan and Ohio State same if it came to it. I am actually surprised he is fired before Michigan coach.  Michigan might have more resources.  

Michigan has a ring that will quell the fanbase for a minute

[CoachBobbyFinstock]

13 minutes ago, Austalgia said:

I know a donor myself that could have paid it.  They have what Texas has.  The will and the resources.  It’s not even hurting some of these guys on the money.  It’s money and fandom that few can understand.  Michigan and Ohio State same if it came to it. I am actually surprised he is fired before Michigan coach.  Michigan might have more resources.  

That’s more like it. I do not see Aggy as a better job than Penn St.

Tradition wise it’s not close. At Penn St he’s the beast of the East and the lead dog in a prime state.

A$M is and will always be 2nd fiddle to Texas and in the region. LSU and OU have more clout.

Elko is from New Jersey and played at Penn. I wonder if he would get a look and wants to go home.

A Penn St white out night game takes a backseat to no one.

[Hashtag]

13 minutes ago, Longhorngreg said:

Maybe not if you are from Pennsylvania 

Florida is objectively a better job than Penn state no matter where you’re from. 

[SuperDave0805]

14 minutes ago, Longhorngreg said:

By what metric?

Until this year Franklin won the games he was supposed to, Richt always seemed to lose one or two a year he shouldn't have

[TexasFanatic]

13 minutes ago, Hashtag said:

Florida is objectively a better job than Penn state no matter where you’re from. 

It’s not 

[Longhorngreg]

5 minutes ago, SuperDave0805 said:

Until this year Franklin won the games he was supposed to, Richt always seemed to lose one or two a year he shouldn't have

Again, unless you are from Penn and have been overlooked for decades in your home state.  Florida does not have more money nor better facilities at this point although Florida is finally upgrading the Swamp next season.  Current roster wise I would give Fla a slight edge although playing off campus for the next year at least may offset that.  My guess is Cignetti would be interested in winning now

[SuperDave0805]

15 minutes ago, Longhorngreg said:

Again, unless you are from Penn and have been overlooked for decades in your home state.  Florida does not have more money nor better facilities at this point although Florida is finally upgrading the Swamp next season.  Current roster wise I would give Fla a slight edge although playing off campus for the next year at least may offset that.  My guess is Cignetti would be interested in winning now

Lot easier to recruit to Florida

[Longhorngreg]

9 minutes ago, SuperDave0805 said:

Lot easier to recruit to Florida

While that would be the surface answer, I am not sure that is the case today.  Both have similar recruiting rankings the last 5 years, Penn St controls a region recruiting wise(albeit a weak region),  Penn St currently has better facilities and collectives might lean Penn St.  If Cignetti is wanting to win right away and at 64 I would assume that AND I am from the state Florida does not seem like the slam dunk choice over Penn St

[Doodad]

4 hours ago, Orangeblooded said:

Cignetti

Agreed. Makes tons of sense. 

[TexasFanatic]

Elko 

[SuperDave0805]

57 minutes ago, Longhorngreg said:

While that would be the surface answer, I am not sure that is the case today.  Both have similar recruiting rankings the last 5 years, Penn St controls a region recruiting wise(albeit a weak region),  Penn St currently has better facilities and collectives might lean Penn St.  If Cignetti is wanting to win right away and at 64 I would assume that AND I am from the state Florida does not seem like the slam dunk choice over Penn St

The fact their rankings are similer despite Florida going through an awful period reenforces my point. There is a reason Penn St hasn't won a national title in 40yrs, Don't get me wrong I'm not saying Penn St isn't a good job just that it isn't an elite job 

[Tim Longoria]

5 hours ago, jkates said:

Congrats on holding that position in his 12th year at the helm of PSU.

Except he's always been like this. Last year was the outlier. I never understood why their offense was predicted to be good. All their receivers transferred out for not getting the ball, their primary receiver (Tyler Warren) was gone to the NFL. And oh, you still have Drew Allar at qb (lol) and James Franklin as your HC (LOL). 

[horns96]

2 hours ago, CoachBobbyFinstock said:

That’s more like it. I do not see Aggy as a better job than Penn St.

Tradition wise it’s not close. At Penn St he’s the beast of the East and the lead dog in a prime state.

A$M is and will always be 2nd fiddle to Texas and in the region. LSU and OU have more clout.

Elko is from New Jersey and played at Penn. I wonder if he would get a look and wants to go home.

A Penn St white out night game takes a backseat to no one.

I had no idea Elko played at UPenn.  Aggie has an Ivy League coach 🤣

[Longhorngreg]

44 minutes ago, SuperDave0805 said:

The fact their rankings are similer despite Florida going through an awful period reenforces my point. There is a reason Penn St hasn't won a national title in 40yrs, Don't get me wrong I'm not saying Penn St isn't a good job just that it isn't an elite job 

You go further back after the Joe Pa issues and after the Florida run and again both are perennial Top 20.  Both Penn St and Florida are Top 10-15 jobs.  My ultimate point is Cignetti is from Penn and seems to be a competitor with a chip on his shoulder of which I am a fan so IMO might want to show the state what they has passed on previously(Besides IUPUI).  If I had to guess, he stays at IU with a nice raise

Edited 3 hours ago by Longhorngreg

[Bobby_Batronic]

Cignetti has more wins against top 5 opponents this year than Franklin did during his entire tenure at Penn State.  
 

Also, hiring Cignetti, 64 year old, is a very temporary solution to what ails the fans in Happy Valley, and they probably deserve what they get by bringing in a man who will be eligible for social security to run their program. 
 

My bet would be making a run at Elko. 

Edited 3 hours ago by Bobby_Batronic

[Tim Longoria]

Calling it now, if Elko goes there, you know it'll be somehow our fault 😂😂

 

To @Gerry Hamilton's point, we were seeing talk of people wanting Sark gone after this season. People wanting Kirby gone. Ryan Day gone last year, until they won the title. 

[Austalgia]

Don’t you guys think they already have their guy?  You don’t fire a successful coach with that kind of money owed if you don’t have someone ? Right? I guess they do keep losing to the big 3 in their conference with no end in sight.  Now, add in the bottom feeder losses of late,  and it was a matter of time.  I just can’t see them not having talked to someone yet.  

Edited 2 hours ago by Austalgia

[THookem]

 

[Oldest Horn]

4 hours ago, Gerry Hamilton said:

What I'm saying is it will be for the next coach. It's absolutely set up that way because Franklin had better success than many coaches, but couldn't get over the hump. 

Now the next hire will be super duper hyped up and paid 11-12 million. He will be "the guy" to take Penn State to the next level and back to the JoePa NC days. And if he only delivers 11-3 and a couple of playoff appearances in his first four years, at least 50% of the fan base will be ready to kick him to the curb too.

You don’t think every blue blood doesn’t follow this template? Sark won’t be here 12 years without delivering one. I don’t think Mack had much longer on his leash had he kept losing to OU and keeping us out of CCGs and BCS games. We were done with Akers after 10 years, and too many missed chances. 

[Oldest Horn]

4 hours ago, Migas & Fajitas said:

Why would Adidas want this move?

Makes no sense, they just got the contract 4 months ago. Even Phil Knight wouldn’t have that quick a trigger finger.