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Just finished reading and listening to some reactions after Ryan Day's squad was curb stomped by Oregon (?). It's getting ugly in Columbus, couches will be afire soon. Beanie Wells had a scathing review of their D, also heard someone blasting their lack of OL development, "fire these 3 coaches", etc. I know that we as Texas fans can get livid, and our expectations are lofty (and rightfully so), but these folks are rabid. Also read one analyst who said Smith played his last game as a buckeye - just because a competitive kid was pissed off. Jeez.

The risk is having to pay a $30M-$50M buyout to a guy who has never coached at the college level at the exact same time your conference is imploding as the revenue generating schools leave for the SEC and Big Ten before the next round of media rights deals in 2031. This is the same theory / move that Colorado made with Deion, except Deion is much higher profile than Phillip Rivers, and at least Deion feigned interest in coaching college football at Jackson St prior to CU. And four years later (after Deion’s son is long gone), Colorado is no better off than before. Maybe even worse as they’ll have to soon pay Deion to go away. This Rivers move is to get NC State donors to give a bit more money to the program, to alleviate short term financial stress of NIL. Period. It’s not a serious football decsion. It also locks in his son (Gunner Rivers) as the highest ranked QB commit in a generation. This has nothing to do with winning / losing football games, and absolutely nothing to do with the long-term health of the program. By contrast, NC State could actually try to hire a real college football coach and maybe that guy can take a talent rich area of the country and parlay it into an upper tier ACC program. Both Cignetti and Bob Chesney coached 200 miles from NC State campus before leaving JMU to completely redefine the football programs at IU and UCLA. Those coaches have already brought more revenue and long-term financial health to their programs than Phillip Rivers will ever bring to NC State. Maybe NC State can try to identify a real coach with that type of upside? And the difference with Mike Leach is that he had lots of college level OC experience, having the #1 offense at two different P4 schools (Kentucky and OU) before taking the Tech job. Phillip Rivers is a high school coach with $100M+ in his bank account, looking to coach his son (QB) at the college level.

Let's hope Coach and Arch learn and understood.

The Big 10 is gonna get the benefit of the doubt, just like the SEC.

Completely agree on Coleman being out. It also improved the efficiency of the offense because Bishop capitalized on all of his opportunities. Coleman hasn’t done that.

They have a good at being, if they stay healthy.

Texas recruited him heavily. He was cray cray .. but a real talent

Like these debates. Hopefully, end of the year we are at least a sweet 16 team.

I'm up trading stocks on European markets. What are you doing? Don't think anyone seriously denies Kobe was the best basketball player in the world from June 2000 to June 2010. As for Texas, Sark constantly talks about Kobe.

Is this drunk harveycmd posting more crap about Bryant on the Texas basketball season thread? I thought we were over that.

I think if USC or Iowa win out, they have a shot at the playoffs. Big 12 won't get two, imo. ACC maybe.

"Why did Iverson, Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett, Steve Nash, Dirk Nowitzki and LeBrick James win MVP in 2001, 2002,2003, 2004 2005, 2006, 2007,2009, 2010" Kobe "Because the media votes on it."

Going down there was the cleaner winning play, even if it makes for less exciting highlights. The extra clock and burned timeouts mattered way more than six points in that spot.

Careful what you wish for....

They are more than a QB away. Smith is their entire offense. They can't run the ball and their defense is getting torched

I hope he gets the chance to do it again this week.

Interesting strategy that will probably spread around the nfl. Our very own Andrew Beck doing kickoffs for an extra tackler on the field.

Sterling is an extraordinary shooter, but he is going to struggle defensively and with getting a shot off when the schedule presents a higher caliber of talent against him.

I agree it was a smart and unselfish play. Also it appeared to be someone on the sideline, possible a texas staff guy giving the signal to get down.

With NIL and the portal making college football harder then ever for coaches hiring a guy who only has a couple years experience at the high school level has disaster written all over it

Math. You know that around the 20 he was thinking "if I score then, they score, there will be an onside kick. I better go down."

No. False start, illegal formation, hold, fumbles, blocked kicks, missed FGs can happen. Teams have failed to score in those situations, that's a fact. It is absolutely the wrong decision. No doubt. Go ahead a get the 14 point lead.

How is it risky? NC State is desperate for relevancy. I don't think the move is going to work out, either, but I don't think any move was going to work out for NC State. But who knows? Texas Tech fired Spike Dykes, which I thought was a mistake, and hired a guy with a law degree with no head coaching experience, who hadn't even played college football. Mike Leach is not only their best coach and led them to relevancy, in many ways he's the reason the football program is where it's at today, since Cody Campbell played under him. You just never know. NC State is in a position they have to roll the dice and try something risky. And if Rivers succeeds, they have a better shot of keeping him as the head coach than someone else who would for sure view that job as a stepping stone. Heck, Rivers might. He'll for sure raise the platform for that job. I'm supportive of the hire. I don't think it's going to work out, but when you're desperate, sometimes you go all in on the roulette wheel.

I wasn't truly comparing to Stanford. Just pointing out they're in free fall when they used to be the 900 lb gorilla. There was a long time when we just didn't win recruiting battles against that school. Now we don't seem to lose any. I don't think you have a bad expectation. I have the same expectation. We're recruiting at that level. There are just other issues. There are evaluation, development, and roster management issues. Elliott has always been a CEO type coach. He watched Carroll at USC and Brown at Texas and he felt like that paradigm fit him best. We lost Erik Sullivan, his long time assistant, who left to become the head coach for the women's national team (where he's doing terrible, btw) and a lot of what we seemed to do well previously has seemingly gone to sh1t. IMO Elliott needs to make some changes to this staff, because this group is not going to cut it. But talent acquisition is a huge key. If you're still able to win your recruiting battles - and Texas doesn't really lose recruiting battles except to Nebraska, and we even win a few of those - then you always have the opportunity to return to elite status. The portal helps, too. I'm just saying Texas was a regional host LAST YEAR! They literally won the national championship in back to back seasons...THREE SEASONS AGO! Your posts are making it seem like Texas has lost their way. Maybe they have, but it's a little soon to talk about the complete demise of the program. There's an absurd amount of talent on this team. I think with the right infusion of assistants, they can be right back on that mountaintop. But the crew in place right now has problems, and I don't feel confident that they can figure their way out of the issues when I think the issues in large part were caused by them in the first place. I guess we'll see. It's not like I don't have questions about the direction we're going in. I do. But I follow recruiting close enough to know Elliott hasn't lost his fastball on that account, and that's where it starts. This offseason is going to be a very important one in determining whether we go down the path you're describing, or we change course and put teams out there that are top 5 type teams year after year the way we're accustomed to. I will say it kills me that recently the top middle blocker in next year's class decommitted from Nebraska and chose to go to Texas A&M (from Los Angeles). That should have been our player, and it's not. That's not a good sign.

Getting way ahead of ourselves with too many if’s and but’s right now. Pump the brakes and let this thing play out after bowl season.