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I wasn't truly comparing to Stanford. Just pointing out they're in free fall when they used to be the 900 lb gorilla. There was a long time when we just didn't win recruiting battles against that school. Now we don't seem to lose any. I don't think you have a bad expectation. I have the same expectation. We're recruiting at that level. There are just other issues. There are evaluation, development, and roster management issues. Elliott has always been a CEO type coach. He watched Carroll at USC and Brown at Texas and he felt like that paradigm fit him best. We lost Erik Sullivan, his long time assistant, who left to become the head coach for the women's national team (where he's doing terrible, btw) and a lot of what we seemed to do well previously has seemingly gone to sh1t. IMO Elliott needs to make some changes to this staff, because this group is not going to cut it. But talent acquisition is a huge key. If you're still able to win your recruiting battles - and Texas doesn't really lose recruiting battles except to Nebraska, and we even win a few of those - then you always have the opportunity to return to elite status. The portal helps, too. I'm just saying Texas was a regional host LAST YEAR! They literally won the national championship in back to back seasons...THREE SEASONS AGO! Your posts are making it seem like Texas has lost their way. Maybe they have, but it's a little soon to talk about the complete demise of the program. There's an absurd amount of talent on this team. I think with the right infusion of assistants, they can be right back on that mountaintop. But the crew in place right now has problems, and I don't feel confident that they can figure their way out of the issues when I think the issues in large part were caused by them in the first place. I guess we'll see. It's not like I don't have questions about the direction we're going in. I do. But I follow recruiting close enough to know Elliott hasn't lost his fastball on that account, and that's where it starts. This offseason is going to be a very important one in determining whether we go down the path you're describing, or we change course and put teams out there that are top 5 type teams year after year the way we're accustomed to. I will say it kills me that recently the top middle blocker in next year's class decommitted from Nebraska and chose to go to Texas A&M (from Los Angeles). That should have been our player, and it's not. That's not a good sign.

Getting way ahead of ourselves with too many if’s and but’s right now. Pump the brakes and let this thing play out after bowl season.

Except OSU is just a QB away from being right back to where they were before. Sayin is likely back next year, but if not, there are multiple portal guys available. Things suck right now, and it's crazy that Luke Fahey is the best they have behind Sayin, it's also crazy that they are this QB dependent, but they'll be back next year with a well-paid, experienced backup QB.

He was probably following instructions from coaching staff.

I wonder if he thought Missouri was out of timeouts.

I personally think Missouri let us score on that next play which tells you they certainly would have preferred Littleton to have scored. It was their only chance really, brilliant move by Littleton IMO.

no doubt!

Honestly, he should’ve scored, but it didn’t matter too much either way. if Mizzou has 1 or 0 timeouts, very smart play to kneel. With Mizzou having 2 (or if they had 3) timeouts, it actually probably isn’t a smart play. If you play out all the scenarios of possibly fumbling a ball on the three run plays or getting a FG blocked or missing it. Probably more likely for Mizzou to tie the game in this scenario, then score a TD (especially with how the Def was playing and Simmons hobbled) get an onside and score another TD. I know we have two onside kicks against us recovered, but still very unlikely to give up another. He should’ve scored, but it really didn’t matter. I was screaming at my TV when he slid. He should’ve scored!!! lol

Has another big test against LSU. They have a stout defense. All we need to do is go 4-0 in November and put ourselves in with the best chance possible. Get past LSU and I like our chances.

I honestly think this is a terrible hire, but best of luck to him and NC State.

I think Texas wins, but LSU did put up over 400 yds on Bama if I'm not mistaken... D has to be ready too. 🤘

With the future of the ACC very uncertain, this is an even more risky hire by NC State. They may be paying Rivers a buyout at the same time the ACC is blowing up and schools like NC State have no guarantees of a soft landing and a lucrative media deal. Why not just hire a real football coach instead of a favorite son gimmick? How has hiring inexperienced, high profile former professional alums worked for college basketball programs? Chris Mullen, Patrick Ewing, Clyde Drexler, Penny Hardaway, Juwan Howard, etc…

Day at OSU feels like the end of the Mack era here... climbed the mountain, won, held on, lost his qb, lost the building... Really hard to sustain a dominant run. 🤘

Even with the NIL era and all that, they have to be close to losing that #1 class, right?

I thought he should've scored because you don't get a ton of chances to score defensive TD's but I understood what he was going for.

Who in their right mind would go to A&M at the moment? People are leaving there

Was it a one off gameplan or will Sark adapt to more of a spread offense? Coleman being out actually reduced the amount of shot plays that he ran it seemed, hopefully we see more of the same in Baton Rouge.

People are way overthinking this. It’s a non issue

Sanchez and Pettijohn are easy takes if they want in. I don't know much about the others.

Yep and that would potentially effect his Heisman voters too.

Grambling's Isaiah Miranda will be an interesting opponent. He's a 7'2" 230 athletic forward. He's a 4th year player who has bounced around a lot of small programs, but he's got some physical talent. He scored 29 points in Grambling's opener.

And stealing 2nd

Sanchez has UT on his radar with Muschamp as DC.