harveycmd Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) I have more stuff for you @Jordan91. When my daughters were growing up during the 2000s, I'd wake them up at 6:00 AM to read classics in the mornings during the summer (Plato, Aristotle, Dante, Homer, Virgil, Herodotus, etc.), and then we'd watch the Lakers in the Finals at night. We were reading The Odyssey during June 2009. The day we read book 22, in which Odysseus kills the antagonist Antinous (which means "anti-mind" in Greek) by shooting him in the throat with an arrow, and follows it up by telling his 20 year old son Telemachus (which means power crossing over or moving to) not to celebrate because the fight isn't yet over yet, Kobe made his famous statement after taking a 2-0 lead over the Magic in the Finals ("What's there to be happy about? Job's not finished. Job finished? I don't think so."). I let them stay up late that night to watch the postgame stuff. My youngest daughter immediately made the connection between Odysseus and Kobe. Yesterday, she called me and said we need to go see the film The Odyssey next week when it's released and wear our Kobe jerseys. That's the power of admiring greatness when you grow up. Edited 1 hour ago by harveycmd Quote
harveycmd Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago I should add that Odysseus means "enemy" in Greek, which was also a role that Kobe embraced. Quote
harveycmd Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) Another connection worth mentioning here is the status of Odysseus as the second greatest hero in Greek mythology after Achilles. Socrates argued in several Platonic dialogues that Odysseus was superior to Achilles and should be recognized as such by the Greeks. He based this argument on the contention that Odysseus was more "intelligent, skilled and worked harder" than Achilles. Sounds like the Jordan/Kobe stuff. Edited 1 hour ago by harveycmd Quote
thatdude2 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago On 7/10/2026 at 10:47 AM, Gerry Hamilton said: 1 Does this somehow go back to Arch not taking as much as he could for NIL? Quote
Moderators Gerry Hamilton Posted 54 minutes ago Author Moderators Posted 54 minutes ago 8 minutes ago, thatdude2 said: Does this somehow go back to Arch not taking as much as he could for NIL? With Spears Jr. ... he is making a fair # in year one from what I hear. This wasn't a bargain recruitment for Texas. That was Austin Goosby who took half of what BYU was offering to be at Texas. But the KD/Nike deal has helped with basketball HS recruiting from an NIL standpoint Quote
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