Bobby Burton Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago The presidential commission surrounding college sports issued its first form of potential guidelines yesterday. You can read them in the tweet I linked below. It’s a comprehensive list of reforms. As should be expected, there’s some good, some bad and a whole lot of work to be done. But at least someone is attempting to move things forward. Perhaps the biggest news? They are suggesting an entirely new form of governance, one largely outside of the NCAA or perhaps without the NCAA altogether. Other major line items of note: - A phased pooling of rights if 75-percent of colleges agree to it. (They don’t say which 75-percent have to comply). The ACC is called out here because some of their rights don’t renew until the mid-2030s while other conferences renew sooner. - Absolute minimums for women’s sports. - Caps on player compensation with the intention of strict adherence. - The potential of tiered media compensation. So Texas might make more than SMU, Houston, etc. - The creation of a managing board and an executive director. ** My general take is that this is a major overreach. Rather than simply allow all schools to spend what they want and how they want, they suggest allowing the 75-percent to dictate and force what the 25-percent can do. Here’s the problem with that. In college sports, at least from an advertising/money perspective, the dollars are very much about the top 25-percent not the remaining 75. Some of these ideas are a starting point for sure. But it’s definitely not an ending point. As currently considered, it cedes way too much to the schools that actually don’t generate much revenue. It’s cloaked as helping maintain funding for women’s sports, but it’s really just a redistribution of wealth. This proposal, as currently constructed, would not be good for the University of Texas. It would be good for Texas Tech though. And therein lies the problem. ** 9 2 Quote
General Grant Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago That’s a nope. I do wish Eltife was going to be in his position for a few more years. Not sure when he runs out. Love CDC but I’m an Eltife guy. This is a hard no for me. 7 Quote
taxsaver Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago It’s nothing more than a starting point. Things undoubtedly will change but not without a lot of lawyers getting involved. we opened Pandora’s box 📦 about 7 years ago and whatever happens we’re certainly not going back to the way it was 2 Quote
MJW2327 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 7 minutes ago, General Grant said: That’s a nope. I do wish Eltife was going to be in his position for a few more years. Not sure when he runs out. Love CDC but I’m an Eltife guy. This is a hard no for me. Eltife is THE Regents GOAT 1 Quote
General Grant Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 3 minutes ago, MJW2327 said: Eltife is THE Regents GOAT I was around for that moron Rick Perry appointed. Eltife is a bamf. 2 Quote
Bobby Burton Posted 3 hours ago Author Posted 3 hours ago I think we’ll see major pushback from the SEC and Big 10. Some of the ACC and Big 12 schools, through their own mismanagement, have gotten themselves into financial trouble and that’s why they’re taking private equity. Asking the SEC and BIg 10 to cede control of their futures to people who have screwed up in the past and who are desperate just doesn’t make logical sense. 12 Quote
Oldest Horn Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Easy decision tree: If Cody Campbell is for it, Texas should be against it. 7 Quote
Lock n Horns Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Bobby, as a practical matter, how do the SEC and Big10 prevent this from happening short of taking their TV revenue and doing their own thing! Quote
General Grant Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Oldest Horn said: Easy decision tree: If Cody Campbell is for it, Texas should be against it. 💯 Quote
Oldest Horn Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Lock n Horns said: Bobby, as a practical matter, how do the SEC and Big10 prevent this from happening short of taking their TV revenue and doing their own thing! SEC and Big 10 have the flagship and number 2 schools in some serious states. They’ll have a lot of legislative pull in both houses of Congress. Quote
General Grant Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Bobby Burton said: I think we’ll see major pushback from the SEC and Big 10. Some of the ACC and Big 12 schools, through their own mismanagement, have gotten themselves into financial trouble and that’s why they’re taking private equity. Asking the SEC and BIg 10 to cede control of their futures to people who have screwed up in the past and who are desperate just doesn’t make logical sense. This 1 Quote
Bobby Burton Posted 3 hours ago Author Posted 3 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Lock n Horns said: Bobby, as a practical matter, how do the SEC and Big10 prevent this from happening short of taking their TV revenue and doing their own thing! I think you hit on the point. Let the SEC and BIG 10 break away in football. Ask others if they want to join and go from there. Pooling rights might make sense for 32-40 teams, not 130+. 11 Quote
Lock n Horns Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Even if there is federal legislation, that wont necessarily force schools to be a part of this. I could see states passing legislation to require state schools to do something. This is socialization not free market. Ughh 1 Quote
Tuco Ramirez Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Ya’ll chill. When has congress actually done anything? 3 3 Quote
GetHooked Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 43 minutes ago, Oldest Horn said: Easy decision tree: If Cody Campbell is for it, Texas should be against it. I can't stand Cody Campbell. He is a disingenuous POS. 1 Quote
GoHorns1 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 6 minutes ago, GetHooked said: I can't stand Cody Campbell. He is a disingenuous POS. If he were giving his billions to Texas you love him. Quote
GDI Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 38 minutes ago, Tuco Ramirez said: Ya’ll chill. When has congress actually done anything? Congress has done a lot, unfortunately most of it bad. Quote
GetHooked Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 6 minutes ago, GoHorns1 said: If he were giving his billions to Texas you love him. But he's not so it's OK to think of him as a disingenuous POS. I'm glad we cleared that up. 2 Quote
Jordan91 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, Bobby Burton said: The presidential commission surrounding college sports issued its first form of potential guidelines yesterday. You can read them in the tweet I linked below. It’s a comprehensive list of reforms. As should be expected, there’s some good, some bad and a whole lot of work to be done. But at least someone is attempting to move things forward. Perhaps the biggest news? They are suggesting an entirely new form of governance, one largely outside of the NCAA or perhaps without the NCAA altogether. Other major line items of note: - A phased pooling of rights if 75-percent of colleges agree to it. (They don’t say which 75-percent have to comply). The ACC is called out here because some of their rights don’t renew until the mid-2030s while other conferences renew sooner. - Absolute minimums for women’s sports. - Caps on player compensation with the intention of strict adherence. - The potential of tiered media compensation. So Texas might make more than SMU, Houston, etc. - The creation of a managing board and an executive director. ** My general take is that this is a major overreach. Rather than simply allow all schools to spend what they want and how they want, they suggest allowing the 75-percent to dictate and force what the 25-percent can do. Here’s the problem with that. In college sports, at least from an advertising/money perspective, the dollars are very much about the top 25-percent not the remaining 75. Some of these ideas are a starting point for sure. But it’s definitely not an ending point. As currently considered, it cedes way too much to the schools that actually don’t generate much revenue. It’s cloaked as helping maintain funding for women’s sports, but it’s really just a redistribution of wealth. This proposal, as currently constructed, would not be good for the University of Texas. It would be good for Texas Tech though. And therein lies the problem. ** strict cap circumvention- is there a cap on how much a regular student can make while working? capping coach/AD salaries; eligibility/transfer standards- capping coaches and AD salaries. So any school can only offer Sark five million to hire him. Coaches and players go to court over the cap, how do you think that will end? We have already seen how numerous players going to court ended up. 1 Quote
Bobby Burton Posted 1 hour ago Author Posted 1 hour ago 20 minutes ago, Jordan91 said: strict cap circumvention- is there a cap on how much a regular student can make while working? capping coach/AD salaries; eligibility/transfer standards- capping coaches and AD salaries. So any school can only offer Sark five million to hire him. Coaches and players go to court over the cap, how do you think that will end? We have already seen how numerous players going to court ended up. I think this sounds like a recipe for disaster. 1 Quote
RattlerHorn Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago This "presidential commission" is a waste of time with bad ideas. 2 Quote
Bobby Burton Posted 1 hour ago Author Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, RattlerHorn said: This "presidential commission" is a waste of time with bad ideas. I don’t know about a complete waste of time. At least they’re trying to push something forward. IMO it’s better that these ideas get batted down and then reconfigured to what might actually work. 1 Quote
HonkEm Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago It’s adorable watching the schools that can’t stay solvent try to write rules for the ones that actually matter. Only in college sports could the JV try to tell the varsity how the game works. 1 Quote
Jordan91 Posted 54 minutes ago Posted 54 minutes ago 2 hours ago, Bobby Burton said: I think you hit on the point. Let the SEC and BIG 10 break away in football. Ask others if they want to join and go from there. Pooling rights might make sense for 32-40 teams, not 130+. Football or all sports? There are some really good basketball teams in both conferences, I don’t see them wanting to stay either. Quote
HonkEm Posted 53 minutes ago Posted 53 minutes ago 1 hour ago, Jordan91 said: strict cap circumvention- is there a cap on how much a regular student can make while working? capping coach/AD salaries; eligibility/transfer standards- capping coaches and AD salaries. So any school can only offer Sark five million to hire him. Coaches and players go to court over the cap, how do you think that will end? We have already seen how numerous players going to court ended up. Trying to cap Sark is how you guarantee the breakaway league gets formed by lunch. 1 Quote
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