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Per Chris Carter - Manning Family set Arch up

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1 hour ago, Rockin TL said:

The whole offense is a systemic failure, no matter the personnel. These failures existed during 2023 and 2024 as well. 

Certainly explains why Texas was the only team to make both quarterfinals!!  🤦🏿‍♂️

🤘🏻🤘🏼🤘🤘🏽🤘🏾🤘🏿

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  • DanielOnorato
    DanielOnorato

    Same stuff every year. If Texas loses a game or two it's the QBs fault. Y'all did same thing to Quinn. 

  • Bobby Burton
    Bobby Burton

    I think Cris Carter knows about as much about the situation as my grandma who passed away in 2007.

  • It's very obvious we're seeing a Garrett Gilbert 2.0 situation. Gilbert was suited for a wide open spread system and Mack tried to box him up and fit him into an under center drop back system.

1 hour ago, MBHORNSFAN said:

 

Have you not seen all the film breakdowns of game tape of Arch? It is pretty bad..... So I guess EVERYONE IS WRONG..

I have. One game where they were up and their coach was an idiot and everyone is blaming one player. It's the whole group. Falls on coaching. 

I find it hard to believe the Mannings are playing shadow OC from the sidelines and dictating what Arch can and can't do. If so, then shame on our staff for allowing it and I hope they pull the plug soon.

If you hope to play QB in the NFL, you are going to have to run and you are going to get hit. There is no being "protected" in that league. I would think Archie Manning knows that. 

 

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1 hour ago, MBHORNSFAN said:

 

Have you not seen all the film breakdowns of game tape of Arch? It is pretty bad..... So I guess EVERYONE IS WRONG..

Everyone is wrong. They call Sark an offensive genius. He's a hard headed idiot to be doing this with the roster he has. 

3 hours ago, Go Horns JC said:

Per Chris Carter sportscast: Arch chose UT Sark because Sark committed to convert Arch to a pocket passer. Arch's natural system is RPO / Running Qb. Papa Archie is focused in protecting Arch from injuries. Sark and UT are in a pickle. Per Chris Carter, Arch's is underdeveloped as a pure pocket passer. It could be due to the OL or RB. What do you think?

Has Carter ever seen Arch try to run an RPO? This is a bunch of BS.

2 hours ago, Alex Butler said:

I would argue he was killing it against Michigan and was rolling at UTSA then never got it back after his injuries. Too many turnovers that year for him too and we would do the same disappearing act for 2 quarter that we are doing now. 

Rolling against UTSA...

26 minutes ago, DanielOnorato said:

Everyone is wrong. They call Sark an offensive genius. He's a hard headed idiot to be doing this with the roster he has. 

What is he doing? Playing a bad QB is what I see him doing  

1 hour ago, Rockin TL said:

The systemic issues that have existed for years are as follows:

- Short yardage inability

- Poor redzone efficiency

- Run game consistency, abandoning of the run and not committing

- Physicality, lines get out beat physically, even by lesser competition and smaller fronts

- Stalling of the offense after opening scripts

- 3rd quarter offense

- Falling in love with home run shots at the expense of consistency

- Prioritizing pass blockers when the HC insist on physical run game

- Predictability in playcalling

- Poor WR blocking as a whole, outside of Whittington

 

You just described Georgia,  Notre Dame from last Saturday. 

I don’t think sitting for two years with very limited in-game playing time benefited Arch’s development as a pocket passer.  You can practice all you want vs your own team but playing against real comp is where all the growth happens. Quin coming back kind of screwed his development. 

18 minutes ago, MBHORNSFAN said:

What is he doing? Playing a bad QB is what I see him doing  

Abandoning run game. Going for it when he shouldnt.

Personnel like CJ Baxter thriving out of the system while portal imports at RB have been underwhelming in his system.

Vs Tennessee Cooper played 10 snaps. Of those 10 snaps he got 8 carries. 

DCs can smell his plays from a mile away based on personnel and formation. There is no element of surprise..he's putting these guys in a position to fail. 

Flood should have been canned years ago and he should have hired a real OC this past off-season. 

5 minutes ago, Rockin TL said:

I'm describing Sark's tenure has a HC at Texas, not isolated games.

I've enjoyed it. 2 playoff appearances. Still in the hunt this year. I guess you were not around for Strong and Herman. 

3 minutes ago, Alex Butler said:

Quinn in 24 not arch this year 

I know. Just don’t know if rolling against UTSA is a big accomplishment. I’ll give him that Florida game though. 

Just now, TheRoJoShow said:

I know. Just don’t know if rolling against UTSA is a big accomplishment. I’ll give him that Florida game though. 

Not saying it is what I’m saying is he was rolling up to that point. Getting hurt he was  never really able to get rolling again the same way. 

4 hours ago, Go Horns JC said:

Per Chris Carter sportscast: Arch chose UT Sark because Sark committed to convert Arch to a pocket passer. Arch's natural system is RPO / Running Qb. Papa Archie is focused in protecting Arch from injuries. Sark and UT are in a pickle. Per Chris Carter, Arch's is underdeveloped as a pure pocket passer. It could be due to the OL or RB. What do you think?

I think Cris Carter knows about as much about the situation as my grandma who passed away in 2007.

33 minutes ago, DanielOnorato said:

Abandoning run game. Going for it when he shouldnt.

Personnel like CJ Baxter thriving out of the system while portal imports at RB have been underwhelming in his system.

Vs Tennessee Cooper played 10 snaps. Of those 10 snaps he got 8 carries. 

DCs can smell his plays from a mile away based on personnel and formation. There is no element of surprise..he's putting these guys in a position to fail. 

Flood should have been canned years ago and he should have hired a real OC this past off-season. 

 

Let be clear. If we miss the playoffs this year I am perfectly fine with firing everyone. 

11 minutes ago, MBHORNSFAN said:

 

Let be clear. If we miss the playoffs this year I am perfectly fine with firing everyone. 

Always a good discussion my friend. Let's win out the rest of the year 🤘

If Eli and Peyton had the athletic capability of arch, would they have been just a pure pocket passer?  how much better could they have been and their Hall of Famers.

Sorry, are we talking about Chris Carter the former Texas safety, or are we talking about Cris Carter the Vikings WR? 

Just read this thread, and it feels like we've reached the point where every offensive problem in the program has somehow been assigned to either Arch, Sark, the Mannings, Kyle Flood, or a secret conspiracy involving all four.

The simplest answer is usually the right one.

Arch has missed reads. The film shows it.

The OL has had protection breakdowns. The film shows that too.

Receivers have been open at times. The film shows that.

The play calling hasn't always helped. We've all seen that.

What I don't see is any evidence that Grandpa Archie is sitting in a dark room somewhere faxing play sheets to Sark and telling him, "Make sure my grandson never runs."

What's funny is that half the board says Arch is secretly a dual-threat superstar being forced to play like Peyton Manning, while the other half says he can't process an RPO and was overrated from the start. Those two things can't both be true.

Personally, I think the answer is a lot less dramatic. Arch is a talented QB who's playing like a talented QB that's struggling with pressure, speed of processing, and confidence right now. That happens. Quinn went through rough stretches. Most young quarterbacks do.

The part that gets lost in all this is that if Arch was truly as bad as some are claiming, he wouldn't have had people begging for him to play for two years. And if he was as perfect as others claim, we wouldn't be watching film clips of missed blitzes and open receivers.

Maybe the truth is that he's neither a bust nor a savior. Maybe he's just a young quarterback trying to figure it out while 100,000 offensive coordinators on the internet diagnose every snap.

And for the record, if the Mannings really are controlling Texas' offense, they're doing a terrible job of getting their guy drafted. NFL teams tend to like quarterbacks who can identify blitzes and hit open receivers too. 😂

8 hours ago, Go Horns JC said:

Per Chris Carter sportscast: Arch chose UT Sark because Sark committed to convert Arch to a pocket passer. Arch's natural system is RPO / Running Qb. Papa Archie is focused in protecting Arch from injuries. Sark and UT are in a pickle. Per Chris Carter, Arch's is underdeveloped as a pure pocket passer. It could be due to the OL or RB. What do you think?

He sucks at RPO too 

20 hours ago, Go Horns JC said:

Per Chris Carter sportscast: Arch chose UT Sark because Sark committed to convert Arch to a pocket passer. Arch's natural system is RPO / Running Qb. Papa Archie is focused in protecting Arch from injuries. Sark and UT are in a pickle. Per Chris Carter, Arch's is underdeveloped as a pure pocket passer. It could be due to the OL or RB. What do you think?

I think Chris Carter doesn't know sh*t.

18 hours ago, MBHORNSFAN said:

 

2023 Yards per game 475 ranked 9

2024 yards per game 437 ranked 21st

 

2025 . Yard 388 70th

2026 361 93rd

 

23 and 24 were also playoff years

 

Amd this

 

 

 

 

 

This was probably one of the best video breakdowns of Arch that I've seen. Arch is thinking too much and it's affecting every other area of his game. I think his family wanted him to play for Sark because of the pro-style offense but it's just not working out for him. And we don't have the personnel up front to run it because we can't run the ball. The onus is on Sark to fit the offense to his personnel and he isn't doing it. Which I don't get because he says he sits down with Arch to find out what he likes and where his strengths are. There's a disconnect. Just because you have 5 stars doesn't mean you can be plug and play.

16 hours ago, HornsUpThumbsDown said:

He sucks at RPO too 

That’s interesting analysis considering the Texas offense rarely runs any true RPOs.  

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