Quinn Ewers in the red zone vs. Georgia Saturday

[harveycmd]

33 minutes ago, qaertyisthatdude said:

Hate that for Beck.  Hope Georgia loses but hate to see injuries no matter what.

We'll see if it's true. You don't want a guy to get injured, but won't feel bad for Kirby and dawg fans that like to be smug.

[4thandFive]

6 hours ago, texcoyote15 said:

I know I am beating a dead horse here, but those two fade pass down in the red zone just baffled me. It’s almost like Sark was just happy with a field goal. There has to be something else better to call there with the game on the line. It reminds me of the plays we ran against Washington in the playoffs last year at the end of the game. I am not claiming to be a player caller, but I’d like the most high percentage play on the sheet. Those throws are very low percentage throws. If I’m going to lose I want it to be firing my best bullet at them. Sark’s motto has been All Gas No Brakes. That’s great and fun and looks good on a T-shirt but alot of times we don’t see it on the field. 

A BILLION times this.

[Raistlin]

6 hours ago, Gerry Hamilton said:

Quinn Ewers in the red zone vs. Georgia Saturday 

2 of 10 for 5 yards. Also had an INT flat out dropped. 

Texas is going to need Quinn to make a big play for the team in red zone in the CFP if they are to make a NC run. I mean a late game, have to have it to stay alive type situation. 

My question to the board ...

Can he or will he do it?

I hope he does.

How did our run game perform in the red zone against Georgia?

[liveattheoasis]

Until Quinn is dangerous off schedule (he did have the ball to Golden yesterday rolling out) he hasn’t progressed well enough. 
 

He had 2-3 open crossers for big gains but throws to his first read almost automatically unless he’s forced off of it.

When he went to Moore at the back of the end zone on first down, Wingo was wide open underneath and probably gets near the pylon with a head of steam. 2 guys in zone on Moore, no one in the zone on Wingo.

[Gerry Hamilton]

7 minutes ago, Raistlin said:

How did our run game perform in the red zone against Georgia?

I get it ... but here is the thing. A QB has to make plays for his team when all else fails ... it's the great differientiator. 

When a play must be made for their team, it's what defines QB's. 

Quinn is a third year starter with 31 starts at this point, he's got to step up and make a game winning red zone play for Texas to get this thing done. 

Washington - nope

Georgia - nope

Let's see what happens. 

[closetojumping]

The simple answer is “no”. If he coulda, he woulda. 

Also, fade routes are nothing more than vanity play calls for an OC. Just thinking they’re creating art. It’s stupid. Sarkisian needs to never call one again. They are the lowest percentage pass plays in the book. 

[BMY]

No trust from my perspective. Can’t progress thru reads and find the open receiver. One red and done. As others have posted he missed open receivers. 

[4thandFive]

Just tired of leaving so many points on the field. We left more on the field than we scored.

 

And I get that Sark knows that……..but it doesn’t feel like he does. It feels like he’s telling so things are rosy when we know there’re some obvious thorns there.

[DanielOnorato]

He can, but I'm not confident he can consistently and that's the problem. In year 3 I expected the highs to be a lot more frequent and the lows to be a lot more infrequent. He diced Florida, can he consistently destroy SEC and playoff caliber defenses? Perhaps in between the 20s but they need touchdowns. 

[PinchPullPancake]

Texas has every position covered to win, except QB. Sark is too tie at the hip to Quinn. Also, Sark needs to force the run more. We need a more man on man downhill rushing attack. WE need more double teams with guys working to the second level. Screw this zone blocking BS. Hat on a hat and get downhill. 

[aaronstein5]

7 hours ago, Bobby Burton said:

Context matters. Texas turned heavily to the run in all of those games because they were up.

And I had no problem with it.

The primary difference this week was the run game was nowhere to be found.

Quinn had at least three throws to the end zone that could have won that game for Texas. He didn’t connect on them. He has to be better.

But @Bobby Burton, Sark shouldn’t have called those lower percentage plays.  @Gerry Hamilton. Also at the end of the 4th why call a slow developing play with one option for Quinn.  Yes I agree Quinn should be better but the o line, play calling didn’t help. And let’s not forget we should have had 6 points that Auburn failed to connect. That’s just flat out terrible. Those 6 points proved to be one of the differences despite Quinn’s issues.  

[Tuco Ramirez]

7 hours ago, Gerry Hamilton said:

 

My question to the board ...

Can he or will he do it?

I hope he does.

Can he? Yes. Will he? I really have no confidence in him. Quinn hasn’t shown the ability to take the team on his back and will the team to victory. 
 

I had confidence that Colt, VY, Applewhite, Ehlinger would win when we needed it. I don’t have that confidence in Quinn at all.

[harveycmd]

Don't forget Golden dropped a touchdown in the end zone. Golden made a couple of nice catches, but he dropped a potential game winner. Thus it's not really correct to say Quinn didn't make any game winning throws when he had the chance.

Again, I wish Arch had been made the starter during the second bye week, but some of this is a bit hyperbolic. 

[marathon]

1 hour ago, harveycmd said:

Don't forget Golden dropped a touchdown in the end zone. Golden made a couple of nice catches, but he dropped a potential game winner. Thus it's not really correct to say Quinn didn't make any game winning throws when he had the chance.

Again, I wish Arch had been made the starter during the second bye week, but some of this is a bit hyperbolic. 

@Gerry Hamilton @CJ Vogel
I didn’t realize how wide open Wingo was at the end of regulation. There are 3 different angles in the video below. He never saw him the way the play developed.

 

Edited December 8 by marathon

[HornsUpThumbsDown]

45 minutes ago, marathon said:

@Gerry Hamilton @CJ Vogel
I didn’t realize how wide open Wingo was at the end of regulation. There are 3 different angles in the video below. He never saw him the way the play developed.

 

They give him 1/2 second longer he can pull the trigger you can see him try 

[Texbam]

9 hours ago, Hashtag said:

Vs Kentucky he was injured and so ineffective we had no choice but to run.  Giving up a touchdown on a fumble. 
 

vs Arkansas he was ineffective so we had to run

vs Vandy he was ineffective and we didn’t really move the ball rushing either. 
 

vs A&M he was ineffective and we had to run. Including two turnovers and throwing a pick 6  

 

He’s been god awful in second half of games down the stretch of the last 6 games with or without context. 

This.  We had to turn to the run to mitigate the ineffective play of the QB…it was a must to run clock and escape with a win.  In the final two regular season games he accounted for 14 second half points for the opponents.  I’m not a Quinn vs Arch guy, but we will not win a MNC with the inconsistency of play at QB (often one half to the next) and OL.

[goattalk100]

2 hours ago, harveycmd said:

Don't forget Golden dropped a touchdown in the end zone. Golden made a couple of nice catches, but he dropped a potential game winner. Thus it's not really correct to say Quinn didn't make any game winning throws when he had the chance.

Again, I wish Arch had been made the starter during the second bye week, but some of this is a bit hyperbolic. 

Agreed. I think it’s a confluence of events but it’s easy to scapegoat the QB. Even last year against Washington, we had a chance to win the game at the end & we didn’t get it done. But we’re not even in that position if the RB’s don’t fumble twice in the 2nd half. Quinn is by no means the perfect QB, but there are a ton of factors that play into why we lost.

[ClubWhatever]

1 hour ago, marathon said:

@Gerry Hamilton @CJ Vogel
I didn’t realize how wide open Wingo was at the end of regulation. There are 3 different angles in the video below. He never saw him the way the play developed.

 

Missed Banks on that play.  Goosby got caught bending his waist

[Red Five]

Ewers has cost himself a bunch of money this year. He might have gone in the first round last year.

And I'm reasonably sure at this point that if we had spent the offseason preparing for Arch to be the starter, and if he had started every game this year to this point, we'd be in a better situation right now. Hindsight is 20/20 though, because I was certainly cool with Ewers coming back. 

[Neil Leininger]

8 hours ago, Hank Kingsley said:

The way Sark has curated this offense under QE, there almost has to be perfection for it to be successful. Timing is everything. Assignments/blocking has to be perfect. It's just very difficult to maintain that, particularly when facing elite talent and defenses. It really hurts the offense when on 3rd and 2, you know your QB is not gonna get the first with his legs if a pass play breaks down. 

Georgia is an elite talented defense that only has to worry about 25 yards when playing Texas and Quinn Ewers. They can usually leave the middle of the field open because Quinn doesn't see it. Most of his throws are on the perimeter. The few times he tried the middle, one resulted in a 41-yard catch and run for a TD. 

We are seeing the same issues in the RZ manifest themselves again from last year, except this year Auburn is a pumpkin.

[Neil Leininger]

4 hours ago, Gerry Hamilton said:

I get it ... but here is the thing. A QB has to make plays for his team when all else fails ... it's the great differientiator. 

When a play must be made for their team, it's what defines QB's. 

Quinn is a third year starter with 31 starts at this point, he's got to step up and make a game winning red zone play for Texas to get this thing done. 

Washington - nope

Georgia - nope

Let's see what happens. 

Everyone in the Rose Stadium knew (including the USC coaches) that once we stopped them on 4th down they were losing the game. Not once have I ever felt anything remotely close to that feeling with Ewers at any point in his time at Texas. The same with Sam in 2019 against LSU, they knew if we got the ball back with a chance to win the game, we were going to win it.

[Neil Leininger]

Quinn has 24 games against P4 competition in his 3 years at Texas where he completed the game.

He is 18-6 in those games.

He is 17-1 when he leads at HT. The average spread is 20.8 to 4.3, his 1st loss when leading at HT was yesterday. Twice has he had to lead a 4Q comeback to retake the lead. ISU in 2022 with 4 minutes to go, and Bama last year with 14:05 left to go.

He is 1-5 when trailing at HT. The average spread is 9.7 to 16.5, less than a TD. Only once has he managed to retake the lead in these games in the 4Q, last year against OU.

People often talk about the clutch gene, Quinn just doesn't have it.

Edited December 9 by Neil Leininger

[rgvhorn80]

He’s just not good enough is the bottom line. 

[HornsUpThumbsDown]

22 minutes ago, Neil Leininger said:

Quinn has 24 games against P4 competition in his 3 years at Texas where he completed the game.

He is 18-6 in those games.

He is 17-1 when he leads at HT. The average spread is 20.8 to 4.3, his 1st loss when leading at HT was yesterday. Twice has he had to lead a 4Q comeback to retake the lead. ISU in 2022 with 4 minutes to go, and Bama last year with 14:05 left to go.

He is 1-5 when trailing at HT. The average spread is 9.7 to 16.5, less than a TD. Only once has he managed to retake the lead in these games in the 4Q, last year against OU.

People often talk about the clutch gene, Quinn just doesn't have it.

Or the coach who draws the plays and adjusts?

[jonbailey]

So many surface level takes in this thread