Moderators CJ Vogel Posted Wednesday at 06:30 PM Moderators Posted Wednesday at 06:30 PM How I would rank the top ten quarterbacks in the 2025 NFL Draft ahead of the Combine in Indianapolis next week. *** There is a pretty sizable drop off after the first two quarterbacks in my eyes. Then McCord and Dart have their own space, followed by Ewers. It is an odd Draft from a QB perspective. But we will see how it all plays out in Indianapolis. Notable omission includes Seth Henigan, I really liked what he brought to the field in Mobile for the Senior Bowl. Let me know what you think? 8 Quote
Moderators CJ Vogel Posted Wednesday at 06:35 PM Author Moderators Posted Wednesday at 06:35 PM I really don't like this QB class. There are too many flaws from quarterbacks across the board. As you can see, I am taking Sanders over Ward, but neither are warranting a top five pick at the moment. Teams are QB needy obviously, especially at the top of the draft, but I would be trading out of the top end of the draft to take them a bit later. 3 Quote
Bewarre Posted Wednesday at 07:09 PM Posted Wednesday at 07:09 PM 26 minutes ago, CJ Vogel said: I really don't like this QB class. There are too many flaws from quarterbacks across the board. As you can see, I am taking Sanders over Ward, but neither are warranting a top five pick at the moment. Teams are QB needy obviously, especially at the top of the draft, but I would be trading out of the top end of the draft to take them a bit later. I agree. I dont know in any other recent draft if Sanders and Ward even go in the first round. To me they look like 2nd round picks at best. I feel bad for the qb starved teams. They almost have too pick one of these two guys and hope they work out. Then you feel bad for the QB who goes to one of those teams and unfairly has to start just because they are first round picks. You could almost randomly mix 3-10 on your list and make a case for it. Hopefully most of them go to decent teams with an establised starter so they can learn the ropes before getting sent to the wolves. They all need to pray to little baby Jesus in hopes of not getting picked by the Raiders or Browns or Titans or the Jets. Quote
Moderators CJ Vogel Posted Wednesday at 08:00 PM Author Moderators Posted Wednesday at 08:00 PM 48 minutes ago, Bewarre said: I agree. I dont know in any other recent draft if Sanders and Ward even go in the first round. To me they look like 2nd round picks at best. I feel bad for the qb starved teams. They almost have too pick one of these two guys and hope they work out. Then you feel bad for the QB who goes to one of those teams and unfairly has to start just because they are first round picks. You could almost randomly mix 3-10 on your list and make a case for it. Hopefully most of them go to decent teams with an establised starter so they can learn the ropes before getting sent to the wolves. They all need to pray to little baby Jesus in hopes of not getting picked by the Raiders or Browns or Titans or the Jets. Couldn’t agree more on that final paragraph. I almost wonder if QB needy teams this year are going to punt in the back half of the draft and wait for an Arch, Nussmeier, Lagway, etc. when they become available in the next year or two. I always hear good front offices plan ahead by Draft class, this has to be no different at the QB position. 1 Quote
GoHorns1 Posted Wednesday at 08:03 PM Posted Wednesday at 08:03 PM 1 hour ago, CJ Vogel said: I really don't like this QB class. There are too many flaws from quarterbacks across the board. As you can see, I am taking Sanders over Ward, but neither are warranting a top five pick at the moment. Teams are QB needy obviously, especially at the top of the draft, but I would be trading out of the top end of the draft to take them a bit later. Agree terrible QB draft.i 1 Quote
NothinButDaHorns34 Posted Wednesday at 08:05 PM Posted Wednesday at 08:05 PM Some teams about to draft their next bust with ward and/or sanders Quote
Moderators CJ Vogel Posted Wednesday at 08:08 PM Author Moderators Posted Wednesday at 08:08 PM 2 minutes ago, NothinButDaHorns34 said: Some teams about to draft their next bust with ward and/or sanders I am really excited to see how all of these quarterbacks stack up with one another in Indy. Throwing the same routes, the same drills, the same level of WR. Should be fun. Quote
harveycmd Posted Wednesday at 08:12 PM Posted Wednesday at 08:12 PM Be surprised if Quinn doesn't look the best just throwing the ball. Quote
Jarveaux Posted Wednesday at 08:15 PM Posted Wednesday at 08:15 PM 1 hour ago, CJ Vogel said: How I would rank the top ten quarterbacks in the 2025 NFL Draft ahead of the Combine in Indianapolis next week. *** There is a pretty sizable drop off after the first two quarterbacks in my eyes. Then McCord and Dart have their own space, followed by Ewers. It is an odd Draft from a QB perspective. But we will see how it all plays out in Indianapolis. Notable omission includes Seth Henigan, I really liked what he brought to the field in Mobile for the Senior Bowl. Let me know what you think? I expect Quinn Ewers to go higher than 5th QB picked . 1 Quote
Hashtag Posted Wednesday at 08:21 PM Posted Wednesday at 08:21 PM I think I'd have Cam above Shedeur but the list is pretty solid. 1 Quote
Moderators CJ Vogel Posted Wednesday at 08:22 PM Author Moderators Posted Wednesday at 08:22 PM Just now, Hashtag said: I think I'd have Cam above Shedeur but the list is pretty solid. I love Shedeur's arm. Feel like his play can only improve with a quality and consistent OL in front of him. Though, that is always tough to predict this early in the Draft. 1 Quote
Hashtag Posted Wednesday at 08:23 PM Posted Wednesday at 08:23 PM Just now, CJ Vogel said: I love Shedeur's arm. Feel like his play can only improve with a quality and consistent OL in front of him. Though, that is always tough to predict this early in the Draft. Shedeur's style just doesn't fit with NFL really. Caleb Williams is a much better version of Shedeur and he struggled a lot this season. Quote
GoHorns1 Posted Wednesday at 08:27 PM Posted Wednesday at 08:27 PM 21 minutes ago, NothinButDaHorns34 said: Some teams about to draft their next bust with ward and/or sanders Add Ewers Quote
Moderators CJ Vogel Posted Wednesday at 08:28 PM Author Moderators Posted Wednesday at 08:28 PM 4 minutes ago, Hashtag said: Shedeur's style just doesn't fit with NFL really. Caleb Williams is a much better version of Shedeur and he struggled a lot this season. Williams also had the worst offensive line in the league. Hard to believe any young QB would have succeeded with that group in front of him. 1 Quote
GoHorns1 Posted Wednesday at 08:28 PM Posted Wednesday at 08:28 PM 15 minutes ago, harveycmd said: Be surprised if Quinn doesn't look the best just throwing the ball. Football isn’t played in shorts, T-shirts against air. Quote
AJJ_Sports Posted Wednesday at 08:31 PM Posted Wednesday at 08:31 PM I’m slightly shocked alot of people are this high on Kyle McCord. I get he had a great season but I cannot unsee that season he had at OSU Quote
NothinButDaHorns34 Posted Wednesday at 08:32 PM Posted Wednesday at 08:32 PM (edited) 4 minutes ago, CJ Vogel said: Williams also had the worst offensive line in the league. Hard to believe any young QB would have succeeded with that group in front of him. That’s why they should be looking at THE best offensive lineman in the draft, Kelvin Banks. That sure does have a nice ring to it after the decade of putrid offensive line development. Edited Wednesday at 08:33 PM by NothinButDaHorns34 Quote
Hashtag Posted Wednesday at 08:33 PM Posted Wednesday at 08:33 PM 3 minutes ago, CJ Vogel said: Williams also had the worst offensive line in the league. Hard to believe any young QB would have succeeded with that group in front of him. True but looking at the top 10 of the draft and the only OL that is above average to decent comes in at 11 with the 49ers. Quote
Moderators CJ Vogel Posted Wednesday at 08:41 PM Author Moderators Posted Wednesday at 08:41 PM 7 minutes ago, NothinButDaHorns34 said: That’s why they should be looking at THE best offensive lineman in the draft, Kelvin Banks. That sure does have a nice ring to it after the decade of putrid offensive line development. Banks or Campbell should be the top option for the Bears. The cat from Hinsdale they through out at the end of the season was one of the worst OT's I have seen in some time. Quote
marathon Posted Wednesday at 09:59 PM Posted Wednesday at 09:59 PM (edited) 3 hours ago, CJ Vogel said: I really don't like this QB class. There are too many flaws from quarterbacks across the board. As you can see, I am taking Sanders over Ward, but neither are warranting a top five pick at the moment. Teams are QB needy obviously, especially at the top of the draft, but I would be trading out of the top end of the draft to take them a bit later. Here are the QB ratings for the above list. The first number is their national ranking: (1) Dart 180.69 (2) Rourke 176.01 (3) Howard 175.26 (4) Ward 172.24 (5) Sanders 168.21 (7) Gabriel 164.81 (24) Ewers 148.98 (25) Milroe 148.81 (26) McCord 148.76 (50) Leonard 139.61 For comparison, selected QB ratings & national rank in the 2020 thru 2024 drafts. First QB drafted in bold. 2024 (1) Jayden Daniels 208.0, (2) Nix 188.3, (7) Caleb Williams 170.1 2023 (1) Stroud 177.7, (9) Bryce Young 163.2 2022 (9) Kenny Pickett 165.3 (only QB in 1st Rd) 2021 (1) Mac Jones 203.1, (10) Justin Fields 175.6, (12) Trevor Lawrence 169.3 2020 (1) Joe Burrow 202.0, (2)Jalen Hurts 191.2 Edited Wednesday at 10:02 PM by marathon Quote
John Moore Posted Thursday at 11:34 AM Posted Thursday at 11:34 AM Terrible QB class on the surface Quote
MarkInAustin Posted Thursday at 12:29 PM Posted Thursday at 12:29 PM I think QE's apparent physical brittleness will hurt his draft stock just as it limited him at Texas. Quote
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