RT should have his bags packed..

[Hashtag]

5 minutes ago, Jordan91 said:

There are three guarantees in life. You are born, you live and you die. 
 

I am quite sure RT could maximize his talent. Proof? Tre Johnson. 

What has RT done to maximize Tre? Tre is maximizing Tre via his own ability, it's definitely not RT's coaching and offense maximizing him. 

Edited February 27 by Hashtag

[Jordan91]

4 hours ago, Hashtag said:

My guy, you have to quit harping on this NIL stuff. NIL isn't the reason this team looks as bad as they do it is piss poor coaching. In the current NIL format you cannot expect big money donors to blindly throw their own personal money at a lost cause in Rodney Terry. I guarantee you all this NIL talk goes away when we hire an actual coach that knows how to motivate donors in addition to revenue sharing. 

Texas has not made a commitment to guarantee a top five program in the history of basketball at Texas. Barnes exceeded expectations. And that was before the NIL. Basketball is the second highest revenue behind football. Texas can continue to have that, without making a serious investment in basketball. Why do you think Gerry said I will believe it when I see it? He was referring to all the money it would take to just get Oats here. See the amount he listed for NIL? Any coach worth his salt will bring it up. Please take a look at the schools above us and the NIL. Sean Miller isn’t exciting anybody. Just my opinion. 

[Jordan91]

1 hour ago, Hashtag said:

Tre is maximizing Tre. 

No they are not. Getting him to play defense would be maximizing him. Take a hard look at his off the ball defense. 

[Hashtag]

4 minutes ago, Jordan91 said:

Texas has not made a commitment to guarantee a top five program in the history of basketball at Texas. Barnes exceeded expectations. And that was before the NIL. Basketball is the second highest revenue behind football. Texas can continue to have that, without making a serious investment in basketball. Why do you think Gerry said I will believe it when I see it? He was referring to all the money it would take to just get Oats here. See the amount he listed for NIL? Any coach worth his salt will bring it up. Please take a look at the schools above us and the NIL. Sean Miller isn’t exciting anybody. Just my opinion. 

NIL doesn't make Rodney Terry a better coach. You said RT has maximized Tre, what exactly has he done to maximize him? Now you're going on about NIL again as if that is the problem with Texas basketball. You also mention in another thread that CDC needs to put his money where his mouth is and he has literally done that in every sport that he's made the hires in. RT is a unique situation in terms of hiring and not the typical CDC hire. So once again....do you have anything to argue aside from big bad poor us NIL?

 

 

Edited February 27 by Hashtag

[Jordan91]

15 minutes ago, Hashtag said:

What has RT done to maximize Tre? Tre is maximizing Tre via his own ability, it's definitely not RT's coaching and offense maximizing him. 

Who you think got Tre going on those screens in the second half? It wasn’t Tre. Who you think came up with iso ball to maximize Tre? It wasn’t Tre. 

[Hashtag]

1 minute ago, Jordan91 said:

Who you think got Tre going on those screens in the second half? It wasn’t Tre. Who you think came up with iso ball to maximize Tre? It wasn’t Tre. 

ISO ball really takes coaching! You nailed it....RT is maximizing Tre and getting him to run basic ball screens and play ISO! EXTEND RODNEY TERRY! Tre's ability to create his own shots is why he's been successful in spite of poor coaching from Terry. 

[Jordan91]

5 minutes ago, Hashtag said:

NIL doesn't make Rodney Terry a better coach. You said RT has maximized Tre, what exactly has he done to maximize him? Now you're going on about NIL again as if that is the problem with Texas basketball. You also mention in another thread that CDC needs to put his money where his mouth is and he has literally done that in every sport that he's made the hires in. RT is a unique situation in terms of hiring and not the typical CDC hire. So once again....do you have anything to argue aside from big bad poor us NIL?

 

 

Do you have anything to say other than Level one? And a meeting that apparently RT didn’t come off well in, without having a source? Tommy Lloyd? Really?

[Orngblud05]

3 minutes ago, Jordan91 said:

Who you think got Tre going on those screens in the second half? It wasn’t Tre. Who you think came up with iso ball to maximize Tre? It wasn’t Tre. 

Who stopped going to that play after it worked 100 times in a row?

[817 Boxing B]

7 hours ago, harveycmd said:

Gave him a shot based off a tournament run. No one forced him to take it. He could have called it insulting and went on his way.

Well...being a UT lifer counts for something when it comes to discounts... and I won't go into the opportunity conundrum when it comes to particular coaches, but I'm sure RT understood it wouldn't last long but the visibility and opportunity would set him up after it was cooked.

[Jordan91]

Just now, Hashtag said:

ISO ball really takes coaching! You nailed it....RT is maximizing Tre and getting him to run basic ball screens and play ISO! EXTEND RODNEY TERRY! Tre's ability to create his own shots is why he's been successful in spite of poor coaching from Terry. 

Man I am going to let you continue on with RT. You are completely missing what I am saying. The fact that you think ISO ball doesn’t take coaching means you are confusing rec ball with actual basketball. 

[Hashtag]

1 minute ago, Jordan91 said:

Do you have anything to say other than Level one? And a meeting that apparently RT didn’t come off well in, without having a source? Tommy Lloyd? Really?

Don't lash out at me because you're grasping at straws and blaming NIL boogey man instead of the lame duck coach that is going to be fired because he's not good. 

[Hashtag]

Just now, Jordan91 said:

Man I am going to let you continue on with RT. You are completely missing what I am saying. The fact that you think ISO ball doesn’t take coaching means you are confusing rec ball with actual basketball. 

ISO ball is all about individual. You can try to put lip stick on a pig but if a player can't create his shot or get to rim in ISO it doesn't work, period.

[Jordan91]

1 minute ago, Orngblud05 said:

Who stopped going to that play after it worked 100 times in a row?

Texas didn’t take 100 shots! What are you talking about? They adjusted like coaches do. 

[Jordan91]

2 minutes ago, Hashtag said:

ISO ball is all about individual. You can try to put lip stick on a pig but if a player can't create his shot or get to rim in ISO it doesn't work, period.

I don’t even know what to say to this. Agree to disagree. I got to move on. Have other things to do with my day. 

[TarrantCoHorn]

I think at this point we all know how this is going to play out. No need to denigrate the guy. 

[Hashtag]

1 minute ago, Jordan91 said:

I don’t even know what to say to this. Agree to disagree. I got to move on. Have other things to do with my day. 

Probably best because you're looking awfully foolish citing ISO ball as RT maximizing Tre and blaming NIL for anything and everything while simultaneously not blaming the real problem in RT.

[Jordan91]

29 minutes ago, Hashtag said:

Probably best because you're looking awfully foolish citing ISO ball as RT maximizing Tre and blaming NIL for anything and everything while simultaneously not blaming the real problem in RT.

Sorry Level one. 

[Jarveaux]

37 minutes ago, TarrantCoHorn said:

I think at this point we all know how this is going to play out. No need to denigrate the guy. 

I agree . I’m sure RT knows he’s gone! Just let the season play out. 

[Itsamystery]

I go back to the recruiting class for last year, when he lost two key recruits in the days leading up to NSD. That team had to quickly change direction and never quite recovered from what it could have been. That hurt possible portal recruiting and had an impact on this years team. I have supported RT throughout, but this years product was not up to standards.

[pinkman_90]

Even if we are 7th in NIL in the SEC (which btw is a number being passed around as fact when it was a somewhat educated guess by Chip Brown) we are underperforming.  We should be sitting around 8-9 wins in the SEC and a top 25 ranking.  We are nowhere close to that.  
 

Now assume we got JT Toppin at his price tag which would probably jump us to top 2/3 in SEC NIL.  Would we be a top 2/3 team with Toppin?  Hell no.  We’d still have zero functional point guards.  

Edited February 27 by pinkman_90

[HookemTexas]

I see the RT situation similar to the DP situation.  Both nice guys and reached the post season, but at the end of the day, the goal at Texas is not just to make the post season, it's to win championships.  And if CDC and leadership do not think you'll eventually get over the hump, then changes will be made, it's simple as that.

The only thing that I think might not lead to an immediate change, is that CDC has shown he generally doesn't fire a coach but rather waits for their contract to run out and not renew it.  The only firing that I can recall is Beard and that was for circumstances outside of the norm.

[817 Boxing B]

3 hours ago, Jarveaux said:

I believe the money needs to go to the girls Basketball 🏀 team . They are talented & extremely well coached.

Well.. Chavez is going to command it..wherever she decides to go. Now... understand, the men's basketball ball coach, knowing RT is getting the axe and assuming we're getting a big name, is going to highlight that commitment to her and require an equal effort on the men's side. 

[817 Boxing B]

1 hour ago, pinkman_90 said:

Even if we are 7th in NIL in the SEC (which btw is a number being passed around as fact when it was a somewhat educated guess by Chip Brown) we are underperforming.  We should be sitting around 8-9 wins in the SEC and a top 25 ranking.  We are nowhere close to that.  
 

Now assume we got JT Toppin at his price tag which would probably jump us to top 2/3 in SEC NIL.  Would we be a top 2/3 team with Toppin?  Hell no.  We’d still have zero functional point guards.  

Sheddrick and Kaluma have been ass cheeks in the paint. Onyema is a foul machine and Kent is limited athletically. Larry should've started at PG all season... but a more effective paint presence was paramount and the people who make decisions left RT flapping in the wind. We knew all off-season they needed help in the paint.

[Hashtag]

2 minutes ago, 817 Boxing B said:

Sheddrick and Kaluma have been ass cheeks in the paint. Onyema is a foul machine and Kent is limited athletically. Larry should've started at PG all season... but a more effective paint presence was paramount and the people who make decisions left RT flapping in the wind. We knew all off-season they needed help in the paint.

So why didn't you donate the 7+ figures to land him? You all can keep harping on not bringing in Toppin but reality is no one was going to put up 7+ figures for 1 players with a coach of a team they don't trust. Especially considering that is coming from personal money of donors. Even with Toppin we improve by what, maybe 2 games in conference, make the tourney and get bounced first weekend? RT is still fired. 

 

Donors are going to be counted on for buyouts so that 7 figures is better spent to that this off season. 

Edited February 27 by Hashtag

[817 Boxing B]

7 hours ago, ATX16 said:

Rodney Terry @ Fresno St.,    2011-2018

126-108 Overall

62-58 Mountain West conference, 1 season out of 7 finished better than 4th place

 

Rodney Terry @ UTEP,    2018-2021

37-48 overall 

19-33 CUSA, finished 14th, 11th and 5th in his three seasons.

 

Cmon UTEP and Fresno State, your coach needed more support. 

What recruit is looking to head to UTEP or Fresno? Maybe you stumble upon a Kawhi Leonard, but it wasn't like they had a budget or setup to compete on a major level.