Adding to the Easy Offense Conversation from Monday

[CJ Vogel]

Wanted to add to the conversation from yesterday in regards to making life easier on the offensive side of the ball...

Arch Manning currently has the smallest % of pass attempts targeting pass catchers in between yards 1–9 among Power 4 quarterbacks. There are 73 quarterbacks that qualify according to PFF.

Only 25.7% of Manning's pass attempts are in the short yardage category – again, that is yards 1–9 downfield.

 

[Texas fan in Georgia]

Sark needs to run Quinn’s gameplan for arch. Use the quick game as an extension of the running game. That IS your running game. 

[Texas fan in Georgia]

I hope James Simon has good hands. Lining him up in the backfield taking some swing passes would be nice. He looks faster than Wisner, but runs more physical and has a better chance at making the first guy miss.

[CJ Vogel]

6 minutes ago, Texas fan in Georgia said:

Sark needs to run Quinn’s gameplan for arch. Use the quick game as an extension of the running game. That IS your running game. 

Would like to see the field spread out a bit. Just get the ball to guys in space and allow them to work. 

I'm with you

[Alex Butler]

4 minutes ago, CJ Vogel said:

Would like to see the field spread out a bit. Just get the ball to guys in space and allow them to work. 

I'm with you

Let’s go, let’s get creative and make those okies run and run. Let’s run tempo at them too. 

[Here for the Wins]

4 minutes ago, CJ Vogel said:

Would like to see the field spread out a bit. Just get the ball to guys in space and allow them to work. 

I'm with you

But you’re not a coach.  Or are you?  That’s a joke by the way.

If you get the time and inclination, maybe throw together a graph game by game on the ball distribution- behind LOS, 1-9, 10-19, 20+.  Pair it with run-pass ratio.
 

I would wager a bit of our issue is that the gameplans are too varied given our lack of playtime with each other.  The merry go round at RB and LG also play into that.  I think we wasted that UTEP week.

[JMarquette]

I think what I’m most shocked by is how it seems Sark has no clue how to best utilize Arch despite being on campus 3 years. Feels like a cataclysmic failure. 

[CJ Vogel]

1 minute ago, JMarquette said:

I think what I’m most shocked by is how it seems Sark has no clue how to best utilize Arch despite being on campus 3 years. Feels like a cataclysmic failure. 

Beyond having three years of gameplanning for Arch, they also had 8 months to game plan for this offensive line getting its lunch eaten every day in practice dating back to the first day of practice in the spring. Nothing changed.

[Trent Hegemier]

11 minutes ago, CJ Vogel said:

Beyond having three years of gameplanning for Arch, they also had 8 months to game plan for this offensive line getting its lunch eaten every day in practice dating back to the first day of practice in the spring. Nothing changed.

Were these things that the coaches saw in practice and just tossed it up to "the defense is just that good" and didn't realize the o line was just flat out bad? 

[4thandFive]

28 minutes ago, CJ Vogel said:

Would like to see the field spread out a bit. Just get the ball to guys in space and allow them to work. 

I'm with you

Where has this been? It’s so frustrating.

[CJ Vogel]

1 minute ago, Trent Hegemier said:

Were these things that the coaches saw in practice and just tossed it up to "the defense is just that good" and didn't realize the o line was just flat out bad? 

Two fold. One, Neto Umeozulu was showing signs of life in the spring. On pace to be the guy. Things changed, obviously, leading up to Ohio State. Now, it appears Neto has played his last down as a Longhorn.

The defense was always ahead of the offense, but that is part of the growing pains of every spring. Injury to Cojoe, loss of Neto being an option is two pieces of the puzzle that were available in the spring that aren't today.

[Here for the Wins]

A little look and comparison on our screen game the past 3 years.  2024 was the least effective in terms of yards per play in the 6.4 range then this year at 7.8 and 2023 at 8.5.  2024 was the lowest in terms of completion percentage and adjusted completion so that probably brings the ypp back in line.

Sark for sure needs to lean into it a bit more but we’re not much different than years prior although UF likely competes with the fewest Sark has run since his arrival.

[Here for the Wins]

And as far as Neto how does that impact the other Z on the team?

[JMarquette]

25 minutes ago, CJ Vogel said:

Beyond having three years of gameplanning for Arch, they also had 8 months to game plan for this offensive line getting its lunch eaten every day in practice dating back to the first day of practice in the spring. Nothing changed.

Hell yeah, CJ - who do you think we have to blame for that…

 

I’ll give you a hint: K**e *lo*d

[Texas fan in Georgia]

13 minutes ago, Here for the Wins said:

A little look and comparison on our screen game the past 3 years.  2024 was the least effective in terms of yards per play in the 6.4 range then this year at 7.8 and 2023 at 8.5.  2024 was the lowest in terms of completion percentage and adjusted completion so that probably brings the ypp back in line.

Sark for sure needs to lean into it a bit more but we’re not much different than years prior although UF likely competes with the fewest Sark has run since his arrival.

My thing is, if sark would just throw to the RBs in the flats , short easy pitch and catch… run those Dlinemen sideline to sideline using tempo. Wearing the opposing d line out and gassing them may be the best way to help the o line get a push. Eventually the back end will start creeping up and that’s when you beat em deep over the top. 

[CJ Vogel]

24 minutes ago, JMarquette said:

Hell yeah, CJ - who do you think we have to blame for that…

 

I’ll give you a hint: K**e *lo*d

And again, in Flood's defense – While I don't know the specifics (yet) regarding Neto, it's tough when your 4th year expected starter at LG turns out to be completely unplayable the week of the season opener.

[CJ Vogel]

33 minutes ago, Here for the Wins said:

And as far as Neto how does that impact the other Z on the team?

I don't think it will. Zina has carved out a very solid contributing role on this team.

[JMarquette]

1 minute ago, CJ Vogel said:

And again, in Flood's defense – While I don't know the specifics (yet) regarding Neto, it's tough when your 4th year expected starter at LG turns out to be completely unplayable the week of the season opener.

Sure, I’m fine with that concession. But not being able to see Stroh is clearly not the answer until the Florida game is just crazy. There were guys on this board, me and @Hashtag who said Stroh was unplayable, Flood kept trotting him out there rather than doing something else (Hutson at guard I guess). Instead they trotted out Nick Brooks, who has never played LG. I mean, what are they doing? 

[CJ Vogel]

1 minute ago, JMarquette said:

Sure, I’m fine with that concession. But not being able to see Stroh is clearly not the answer until the Florida game is just crazy. There were guys on this board, me and @Hashtag who said Stroh was unplayable, Flood kept trotting him out there rather than doing something else (Hutson at guard I guess). Instead they trotted out Nick Brooks, who has never played LG. I mean, what are they doing? 

Fortunately, we have seen the worst at Nick Brooks at LG.

At least now going into TX/OU he will at least have seen a snap at the position in some capacity during practice.

[Breezey A LH4LIFE]

@CJ Vogel

who are you putting out there for your starting 5 on the o-line? 

[UkowWhatImSAYEN]

I don’t think it’s that simple.  For some reason Arch gets flat footed & stares down his target in the quick game.  

[CJ Vogel]

Just now, Breezey A LH4LIFE said:

@CJ Vogel

who are you putting out there for your starting 5 on the o-line? 

I'm keeping it the way it was for the 2H of the Florida game.

If there was a better option, I believe the staff would have deployed it by now. At least, that's what I would like to believe. The three cupcake games to figure this out clearly didn't prove to mean anything.

[Hashtag]

5 minutes ago, CJ Vogel said:

I'm keeping it the way it was for the 2H of the Florida game.

If there was a better option, I believe the staff would have deployed it by now. At least, that's what I would like to believe. The three cupcake games to figure this out clearly didn't prove to mean anything.

Nah, Hutson needs to be at LG or bench. If we lose this weekend the whole line should be shifted to young. Baker isn’t that good either. 
 

Goosby - Hutson/Kibble - Robertson/Cruz - Campbell - Brooks/Baker

It’s a shame that Flood but most likely Sark did Neto the way they did. So what he didn’t practice as well as Stroh because he damn sure played better in games than Stroh

How do you go into a bye week knowing what you have on the line and make no changes in practice leading into Florida game? Just malpractice. 

Edited 45 minutes ago by Hashtag

[JMarquette]

3 minutes ago, CJ Vogel said:

I'm keeping it the way it was for the 2H of the Florida game.

If there was a better option, I believe the staff would have deployed it by now. At least, that's what I would like to believe. The three cupcake games to figure this out clearly didn't prove to mean anything.

This was why everyone was mad about it - how the hell was it that we saw it and they did nothing to experiment? Like that’s insane.

[JMarquette]

3 minutes ago, Hashtag said:

Nah, Hutson needs to be at LG or bench. If we lose this weekend the whole line should be shifted to young. Baker isn’t that good either. 
 

Goosby - Hutson/Kibble - Robertson/Cruz - Campbell - Brooks/Baker

It’s a shame that Flood but most likely Sark did Neto the way they did. So what he didn’t practice as well as Stroh because he damn sure played better in games than Stroh

 

Yeah, this is a dog house thing at this point. There’s no way that Brooks is already better than Neto at this moment.