Andrew Scott Posted yesterday at 02:35 PM Posted yesterday at 02:35 PM Dan Neil had a piece on another site and just layed it out perfectly. Texas insistence on “large humans” has been mostly a failure. I realize Dan was undersized and nasty and that is exactly who he says are the type of players Texas needs to pivot to at least at center and guard. He says it won’t get fixed this year and the scheme they ran vs OU should be the gameplan in every game and was incredulous why they didn’t use it vs UK. I realize it’s been said in so many words on here and elsewhere but Dan knows ball and lived it. 14 Quote
Sundancekid Posted yesterday at 02:40 PM Posted yesterday at 02:40 PM Tony Hills said the same thing. 9 Quote
Hookem72 Posted yesterday at 02:45 PM Posted yesterday at 02:45 PM Which is why Turntine will be a far better player than Ojo. 6 Quote
SchoolColors Posted yesterday at 04:56 PM Posted yesterday at 04:56 PM 2 hours ago, Andrew Scott said: Dan Neil had a piece on another site and just layed it out perfectly. Texas insistence on “large humans” has been mostly a failure. I realize Dan was undersized and nasty and that is exactly who he says are the type of players Texas needs to pivot to at least at center and guard. He says it won’t get fixed this year and the scheme they ran vs OU should be the gameplan in every game and was incredulous why they didn’t use it vs UK. I realize it’s been said in so many words on here and elsewhere but Dan knows ball and lived it. 2 hours ago, Sundancekid said: Tony Hills said the same thing. The players we have are biproducts of the culture they’re in with regards to our offensive players. Quote
Tim Longoria Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 2 hours ago, Sundancekid said: Tony Hills said the same thing. Could've sworn I saw a poster on here yesterday say Tony isn't "qualified" to criticize. 1 2 1 Quote
GoHorns1 Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 2 hours ago, Andrew Scott said: Dan Neil had a piece on another site and just layed it out perfectly. Texas insistence on “large humans” has been mostly a failure. I realize Dan was undersized and nasty and that is exactly who he says are the type of players Texas needs to pivot to at least at center and guard. He says it won’t get fixed this year and the scheme they ran vs OU should be the gameplan in every game and was incredulous why they didn’t use it vs UK. I realize it’s been said in so many words on here and elsewhere but Dan knows ball and lived it. Dan Neal wouldn’t be a started in today’s football. 2 1 Quote
Quinncent McManning, Jr. Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 13 minutes ago, SchoolColors said: The players we have are biproducts of the culture they’re in with regards to our offensive players. Definitely. I’m not sure if it is a big human or not thing as much as a fit within the scheme and culture problem. Brooks is massive and could be a great player for us. Agree Turntine is the gem of the OL class this year but if we had gotten a Cantwell, a massive human, I don’t think it would be a mistake. Quote
SchoolColors Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Quinncent McManning, Jr. said: Definitely. I’m not sure if it is a big human or not thing as much as a fit within the scheme and culture problem. Brooks is massive and could be a great player for us. Agree Turntine is the gem of the OL class this year but if we had gotten a Cantwell, a massive human, I don’t think it would be a mistake. You love big humans so long as they’re athletic. You can’t be a big human and not athletic. Nastiness I believe is something that can be coached into and out of players. That ability to coach into and out of is 90% on the coaching staff and 10% on the player. Yay, made up statistics but the overall point is that if you coach a rough hard nose program that will be the results you get and the players who don’t buy into it will weed themselves out(you’re hoping that it’s the smaller portion of your recruits). 2 Quote
Andrew Scott Posted 22 hours ago Author Posted 22 hours ago 1 hour ago, Quinncent McManning, Jr. said: Definitely. I’m not sure if it is a big human or not thing as much as a fit within the scheme and culture problem. Brooks is massive and could be a great player for us. Agree Turntine is the gem of the OL class this year but if we had gotten a Cantwell, a massive human, I don’t think it would be a mistake. The F he wouldn’t. That dude would play and play well in any era. Quote
A-10HORN Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 2 hours ago, GoHorns1 said: Dan Neal wouldn’t be a started in today’s football. And what does that have to do with anything? Coach Flood would also not be a starter in today’s football. Neither would you or I. 1 Quote
TexasMDcoach Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 2 hours ago, GoHorns1 said: Dan Neal wouldn’t be a started in today’s football. He would for sure start. He played many years in the NFL at a little south of 300 pounds (~280-285), but his quickness and high motor would carry him in today's game as it did in yesterdays. Wish we had a guy like him now. 4 1 Quote
TexasOnTop Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 6 hours ago, Andrew Scott said: I realize Dan was undersized and nasty and that is exactly who he says are the type of players Texas needs to pivot to at least at center and guard. That might've worked in the Big12, but I'm not certain it will in the SEC with the talent on the defensive front in this league. Then again, I'm not a former pro offensive lineman😂 Quote
Andrew Scott Posted 19 hours ago Author Posted 19 hours ago 7 minutes ago, TexasOnTop said: That might've worked in the Big12, but I'm not certain it will in the SEC with the talent on the defensive front in this league. Then again, I'm not a former pro offensive lineman😂 Whatever we are doing now obviously isn’t working so…. 1 Quote
rgvhorn80 Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago Sark came out with a trash game plan. Hope he changes before he turns into Tom Herman. 1 Quote
Oldest Horn Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 4 hours ago, SchoolColors said: The players we have are biproducts of the culture they’re in with regards to our offensive players. Culture isn’t a week to week or even a year to year thing. Quote
SchoolColors Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 2 hours ago, TexasMDcoach said: He would for sure start. He played many years in the NFL at a little south of 300 pounds (~280-285), but his quickness and high motor would carry him in today's game as it did in yesterdays. Wish we had a guy like him now. People forget that Kelce played center at 280 in today’s NFL and will be a hall of famer. 3 Quote
Here for the Wins Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 42 minutes ago, SchoolColors said: People forget that Kelce played center at 280 in today’s NFL and will be a hall of famer. People forget or never knew? The key for such a player, really any player, is to be in the right spot for their profile and skill. Quote
horns96 Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 5 hours ago, TexasMDcoach said: He would for sure start. He played many years in the NFL at a little south of 300 pounds (~280-285), but his quickness and high motor would carry him in today's game as it did in yesterdays. Wish we had a guy like him now. ...and if I recall correctly, most of those years in NFL were in a zone running scheme? Quote
ATX16 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 15 hours ago, SchoolColors said: People forget that Kelce played center at 280 in today’s NFL and will be a hall of famer. I saw an interview with Kelce talking about his lack of size at 6'2" 280 and how he was able to be so successful. Against bigger he would use his leverage to get under them. Against smaller he could use his arm length for leverage. He said the one player he hated going against was Poona Ford at 5'11". He said he couldnt get under him and Poona had longer arms. He couldnt block him. Quote
GetHooked Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 20 hours ago, Tim Longoria said: Could've sworn I saw a poster on here yesterday say Tony isn't "qualified" to criticize. Just because Hills and Neil both played on the O-Line in college and in the NFL doesn't qualify them. Even though they both have Super Bowl rings shouldn't mean a thing..... Oh wait, maybe...... (they might know what they're talking about.) Edited 2 hours ago by GetHooked 1 Quote
Red Five Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 20 hours ago, GoHorns1 said: Dan Neal wouldn’t be a started in today’s football. This is insanity. Dan Neil would be our best OL by a huge margin. (btw I used to work with Dan. Nice guy. It was strange to be sitting in meetings next to Dan Neil, not too long after watching him win Super Bowls.) 2 Quote
HDub1995 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago The OL has no nastiness to them. No Studdard, if you will. That’s on the HC and OL coach period. Quote
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