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Moving on indefinitely isn't gonna do anything good for this team. I've said it already, Arch is by far the most talented in the room and the ceiling drops a lot for the offense if Arch can't figure it out mentally. Sark's job is to find confidence in Arch, go back to the basics, and stack successful performances. He has got to stop making Arch the centerpiece of the offense, full stop. Whether that's heavy running game, lots of RPOs and screens I don't know, but he gets paid 10 million a year to figure out how to go back to 2024 MSU Arch.

I don't know about 4-0. Patricia wouldn't have played Quinn the same way he played Arch, and if he was able to create the perfect game plan for a QB with 2 starts I think he would've fared well against 4th year starting Quinn. But yes, for making the playoffs we'd need just C+ / B- games from Arch every game

4th year starting Quinn would be much better, no question. Arch has to let it loose. It's not easy. Maybe he's just never going to be able to. But that's what he has to do. He's too hung up on the mistakes that he makes that they compound. Right now he's feeling all the pressure of the world on his shoulders. He just has to let it loose and have fun. He has the skills to do it. He has to work through the mental side of things and he has to make it a priority to do so. He also has all the resources necessary to do so. But it's gonna be hard. When a player loses confidence it's hard.

I don't think he knows how right now. He's too much in his head. He's got the resources to make changes in his routine or whatever but it's not easy when a player loses confidence.

Maybe he does but it never got talked about: 1) Does Arch go to a therapist/sports psychologist to talk about the pressure he faces/the anxiety he feels about having to perform? Does he meditate? I would guess no if a guy completely melts down after an overthrown wheel route... (meditating/talking to a therapist WORKS, like scientifically proven that it does...) --> If he doesn't, no one in Arch's magic circle of trust thought that developing Arch's mental fortitude (through meditation or other practices that help you remain grounded) was something that was as important as being able to throw good? If you ask me the Manning's, having seen Peyton and Eli go through it, thought to do the same exact things that they did when they were in college, misjudging how much the world has changed, especially in terms of pressure on young QBs making millions of dollars while leading 40 million dollar rosters. --> If he does then either they have miscalculated how much more he needs to work on the mental side of things or honestly, he's toast. If they have been putting a lot of emphasis on it already then Arch may just not be cut out for it. - It may be a misjudgment of character on my part but seeing Arch's interviews it seems to me like he's been trained to just brush off any hint that the mental side of things are the reason he's not performing up to standard. If he's just saying what the media wants to hear ("Gotta play better") then whatever, but if he actually thinks that he just needs to keep on and he'll magically improve mentally then he's dead wrong. The rest of the year working through the mental side of things should be as much of a priority as watching film or going to practice.

Arch is not injured and it is all mental. You can't tell me a guy that loses all confidence after an overthrown wheel route doesn't have mental issues to work through. What I am most worried about is: 1) It is not easy or guaranteed that he can work through it, some people just don't have the mental fortitude... You can always get better, but how much? And how long does that take? 2) Everyone around him, including the manning family, did him a disservice. There is no chance in hell that no one saw red flags in how Arch handles all this pressure and if they did they should've steered him to get help about it as soon as possible. If no one saw it then Arch is incredibly good at masking it and that is very stupid to do. If you feel a lot pressure/anxiety masking it doesn't do anything about it and in fact it represses it. We're in 2025, feelings aren't something you repress, it's something you work through, especially as an athelete with all the resources in the world at your disposal. From Sark to Milwee, being a QB guru doesn't only revolve around Xs and Os... why do we see Texas qbs loose confidence or not have confidence to begin with? What the hell is Milwee saying to these guys?

BTW the comparison to Burrow was just to point out that he's easily got all the tools necessary... don't worry about talent with Arch

Arch has no problem whatsover with arm strength... no he doesn't have a joe milton type of arm or even josh allen but he's gonna be fine... He's got a stronger arm than burrow and even more arm talent, not to mention he's a better athlete. With Arch the last thing we need to worry about is talent... If there's one thing that jumped out the tape saturday was that he's actually really raw and I'd advise against judging how his mechanics/footwork are just from the OSU game. He's got the best supporting cast a QB could ask for and I can assure you they've been teaching and honing fundementals since before middleschool... his clock was just too sped up on saturda, he needs to get a lot more comfortable playing.

Last point is so important. I think Coach Erwin talked about it and I completely agree... Arch was missing that swagger that makes him who he is on saturday. He himself said that he plays his best ball when he's having fun, and I'm sure he wasn't on Saturday... I think this really comes down to experience, being able to tap into that mode even on the road...

It wasn't just the coverages, it was a mix of a lot of things that rattled him... I think number one he wanted this game really really badly, too much maybe, so much so that he went into it thinking he'd have to do it all alone: that's a ton of pressure to put on yourself... Also I think CJ made a great point: he was expecting something like Georgia last year but it never came, so in many ways he wasn't trusting (as much as he should've) his oline AND himself, because apart from running the ball if there's one thing that Arch did really really well saturday was actually maneuvering the pocket. That's instincts, and you can't teach those... He just gotta trust in his abilities to move in the pocket more, step into throws... Process faster so he doesn't have to spend too much brain power diagnosing the defense to allow him to keep the same great footwork and mechanics he's had since like middleschool

I'd say to all the texas fans that still feel uneasy about the future of Arch to watch Chase Daniel's breakdown on youtube. Much less "apocalyptic" about how Arch played than other people who analysed his game. Biggest problem was for sure the mechanics but he actually wasn't processing things as badly as people think, and we're talking about things that he probably never saw up until saturday... I'm telling you, a lot of people in the media nationally will backtrack as the season goes on and will be back on the hype train... (Not sure if that's good or bad) Just need the game to slow down a bit, whether that was due to emotions, not being used to seeing the kinds of coverage he saw or maybe just wanting to be "superman" so badly that he ended up doing the opposite ( or all three) I don't know, but I really think he'll be fine.

Unless Sark is dumber than us sitting on the couch for 10 million a year I'd expect a gameplan centered around this for Florida and especially OU, cause you know Venables is foaming at the mouth for a chance to implement the blueprint on rattling Arch

I hate this kind of comments from fans. Yeah the loss ruined your saturday, guess what: no one in that building worked their ass off in the off-season to lose this game and they are sure as hell more frustrated about it than the fanbase. What is the kid supposed to say? "Oh no it didn't really affect us this loss, just another day at work type of deal"

He did say it. He said he wasn't in the game, he wasn't processing the coverages well, he said he wasn sound mechanically on crossing routes. Sark very rarely (maybe apart from playcalling/redzone) dances around a subject. He's also, rightly, not gonna put all the blame on his inexperienced qb making his first road start, however bad that looked.

At this point an injury of some sort would make more sense to me than complete implosion because of being rattled... Like many of us I'd say that I'd be completely fine with yesterday's performance if in a couple of months it just looks like a bump in the road. Can't get it out of my head and probably won't until Florida, but even this week I wanna see Arch get back to his old self, footwork and all. If this was just a "moment too big for him" kinda thing then whatever, learn from it, grow from it and move past it but can't sit here and say it wasn't concerning. Next few weeks the name of the game is making the automatics, processing defenses (as bad as they may be), and honing in the footwork and mechanics we know he has

And even he wonders if Arch is injured. Maybe we'll never know but a complete implosion from a mechanics and footwork perspective is crazy

For anyone interested:

The Film Guy talked a bit about Texas at Ohio St., here's some of his takeaways(He gonna upload an in-depth film study later) : - Ohio State's defense is the most complex defense he studided since he started his channel - Says Caleb Downs is the best and most instinctual player in college football - Ohio State was perfectly prepared for everything that Sark dialed up, says that it's the same thing that OSU was doing last year along with Georgia and Vanderbilt - He thinks the worst thing coming out of this game, although he says he's not sounding any alarms yet, is Sark's gameplan and that he needs some new stuff - He says that the moment was too big for Arch and that caleb downs pre-snap vs post-snap had a lot to do with it, along with the enviroment and the general talent on OSU's defense - Says that Arch was one of the most sound quarterbacks mechanically and foot work wise he'd seen last year and that yesteray everything went out the window - The good takeways for Texas were CJ Baxter and the defense, says they're still really good

I thought if there's one thing that Arch did well other than running yesterday was actually maneuvering the pocket. If he played for clemson in that game the problem for him wouldn't have been taking sacks it would've been the same problem he had yesterday which was bad mechanics, footwork and processing (pretty important things for a QB)

If there's two positives from yesterday about Arch is that he is a real threat running and he also maneuvers the pocket really well. His problem yesterday was not about being afraid of getting hit, like Quinn was... For someone with 3 starts he moves really well but he just had no confidence inside the pocket... Wasn't stepping into throws, flat footed, side arming the ball or sailing it high... The biggest concern I have is processing, because I believe he has the mechanics and footwork to make the easy stuff automatic but if you wanna play in the NFL you gotta throw the guys open, you can't wait for them to get open. To me yesterday looked like the Arch we saw in his first spring game: skipping the ball on the ground, sailing it high, etc... Last I'd like to point out was how bad he looked against ULM and how much better he looked the week after, regardless of competition. It wouldn't be a good sign for your QB to be inconsistent but It'd make sense given it's his 3rd start and you'd hope he gets more level headed with experience

Here come the overractions, once again

There we go with the overreactions, the fact you're even thinking this lets me know you're being too emotional about this loss. Yeah let's completely deminsh the confidence of a young QB making his first road game start for an unproven senior that played at temple, surely he'll handle better the 110 thousand fans screaming and the nation calling for him to be inducted in the HOF before playing a meaningful snap. What a frustrating fan base we are. How the hell is he supposed to learn to play in an enviroment like this if we pull him? How is supposed to know what failure and disappointement feels like when you've let your team down if you pull him? Don't wanna make generalizations but Peyton wouldn't have become the player he was if they benched him in his first season with the colts. THE KID HAS GOT TO LEARN, LET HIM LEARN. Like @Gerry Hamilton said, he'll get better, we just have to wait and see how much and how long that'll take. The talent is there, he's gotta turn the easy stuff into automatics and get as much reps as possible to make the game slow down. One last thing: if there's something constant within Arch's game is improvement. Whether it's throughout a game or after a game he's always made improvements. Have faith.

I think the rattled mechanics and footwork are all mental, so that's the first thing that I'll worry about at Florida: can he handle the expectations better? Can he settle down and acutally GET IN the game? The MORE concerning thing I saw today, because in no way do I wanna believe Arch can't make those easy throws he couldn't make today, is him waiting, on routes over the middle, for guys to GET OPEN instead of throwing them open. Again, this easily could've been a jitters thing, in my mind no way Sark has a whole gameplan centered around that if Arch struggled with it in practice. So it's not a good thing when your QB just can't seem to settle in in big games, but I do think the mental side of handling the pressure of big games gets easier with more reps. I think a lot of today was between the ears rather than talent (even when it comes to going through progressions)

@Gerry Hamilton The only thing that gives me confidence is the throws late in the game that he made. Apart from that, I don't wanna say it, but he looked like DJ Uiagalalei at FSU with those bad mechanics and footwork... Hopefully more reps and time will make him overcome the jitters he had, because that was just simply not the same player we saw last year. The Film Guy on twitter specifically pointed out how bad mechanics,footwork and everything else looked. I think these next 3 games are gonna be crucial for him to really settle in and make the easy throws automatic.