Remember when…

[Bobby Burton]

Remember when I said the House Settlement didn’t address the real issues?

All it did was a) kick the can down the road, and b) give the NCAA safe harbor from further suits.

Well, it sounds like there’s some folks finally coming up with similar thoughts one year in.

”The House Settlement has been nothing short of a disaster.”

 

[Jordan Scruggs]

Very curious to see what comes out of the SEC meetings this week

[MBHORNSFAN]

35 minutes ago, Jordan Scruggs said:

Very curious to see what comes out of the SEC meetings this week

 

Agreed. I think the train is moving fast now on leaving the NCAA and breaking away. 

[watty7796]

NCAA has been a toothless joke for years.  There has been no attempt at putting guard rails on any of this until the time was already passed.  NCAA still has training wheels and the only adults in the room are the commisiiners less yormark.

[Jc Dobbs]

Times have certainly changed for CFB.

Whatever happened to the NCAA 's David Berst?!

He was the NCAA Enforcement Director who was seen perspiring at the Press Conference before taking the stage to announce the "Death Penalty" against $MU for paying players back in the day.

Hook 'Em!

[Jordan91]

11 hours ago, Bobby Burton said:

Remember when I said the House Settlement didn’t address the real issues?

All it did was a) kick the can down the road, and b) give the NCAA safe harbor from further suits.

Well, it sounds like there’s some folks finally coming up with similar thoughts one year in.

”The House Settlement has been nothing short of a disaster.”

 

It’s the federal government, which is a complete waste of time. 

Edited 10 hours ago by Jordan91

[.45s]

The CSC is independent of the NCAA.  Would that committee still have to rule on NIL money,  etc.  no matter what new body is set up that separates from the NCAA if that body includes a conference(s) that had agreed to opt-in?

[harveycmd]

The CSC is not truly independent of the NCAA. They were established by the NCAA to serve an NCAA function. The CSC won't exist much longer because it's a stupid concept. You can't legally tell someone how much a marketing deal is worth. We said as much when this nonsense started last year. 

If you want to get a "handle" on collegiate athlete compensation, you must negotiate a deal with them. Contrary to uninformed sportscaster opinions, this does not necessitate collective bargaining. There are literally millions of examples of controlled pay structures that don't have collective bargaining. 

[Sancho]

None of it will matter until they give the ncaa some kind of protection against lawsuits. They need to absorb the ncaa or make a governing body that will manage the ncaa. From there, dictate that membership will consists of presidents and ads from 13 different schools and change every 2-3 years. 

[harveycmd]

30 minutes ago, Sancho said:

None of it will matter until they give the ncaa some kind of protection against lawsuits. They need to absorb the ncaa or make a governing body that will manage the ncaa. From there, dictate that membership will consists of presidents and ads from 13 different schools and change every 2-3 years. 

The NCAA isn't going to receive immunity from lawsuits. Even if Congress passed something along those lines, the Supreme Court would strike it down because the SC has already said they won't entertain giving the NCAA an anti-trust exemption. 

Now, having said that, there's nothing in the Constitution that says you can't have a monopoly or trust in late nineteenth century parlance. What needs to happen for some kind of congressional help to occur is some kind of governing entity needs to incorporate market principles into their "rules." Given the NCAA's tainted record, I can't see this legally happening. You need a break away from the NCAA and fresh start.

[Burnt Orange Horn]

9 hours ago, Jordan91 said:

It’s the federal government, which is a complete waste of time. 

We are the Federal Government.  We are here to help you.

[Burnt Orange Horn]

37 minutes ago, harveycmd said:

The NCAA isn't going to receive immunity from lawsuits. Even if Congress passed something along those lines, the Supreme Court would strike it down because the SC has already said they won't entertain giving the NCAA an anti-trust exemption. 

Now, having said that, there's nothing in the Constitution that says you can't have a monopoly or trust in late nineteenth century parlance. What needs to happen for some kind of congressional help to occur is some kind of governing entity needs to incorporate market principles into their "rules." Given the NCAA's tainted record, I can't see this legally happening. You need a break away from the NCAA and fresh start.

The NCAA exists only to preserve the interest of its members, the educational institutions.  It has no regard for the student athlete other than to make them subservient to the interests of its member institutions. It is a failed entity for the student athletes.  Now many are not even technically students anymore.

[harveycmd]

2 minutes ago, Burnt Orange Horn said:

The NCAA exists only to preserve the interest of its members, the educational institutions.  It has no regard for the student athlete other than to make them subservient to the interests of its member institutions. It is a failed entity for the student athletes.  Now many are not even technically students anymore.

The NCAA was established by Teddy Roosevelt with federal overreach typical of TR. It's not going to make it.