Ohio St. names Sayin as starter

[LovingBuckeye]

6 minutes ago, 4thandFive said:

No. I don’t believe Michigan would beat Alabama (anything can happen, but we’re talking on average expectations).

 

 

Don’t play into the SEC stereotypes haha. I’m talking on the field, I don’t care for hypotheticals. We know Michigan can beat Alabama, can Alabama beat Michigan? Idk, they haven’t been able to.

[LovingBuckeye]

9 minutes ago, 4thandFive said:

Who do you consider “the middle”? 
 

Outside of OSU/PSU/Oregon, who do you think is really good? 

I consider the middle - USC, Washington, Nebraska, Iowa, Washington, Indiana, Illinois, Wisconsin.

I consider the top Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, and Oregon.

USC beat LSU & Texas A&M, Illinois beat South Carolina, USC & Nebraska are two of the bluest blue bloods in the sport, and Washington just played for a national championship two seasons ago.

[Tuco Ramirez]

25 minutes ago, LovingBuckeye said:

really, you don’t think Illinois can beat South Carolina? Or USC can beat LSU or Texas A&M? Interesting 

It’s hard to take Illinois and Indiana seriously. Although Indiana was consistently good for betting the team total. South Carolina was very good at the end of the season. I do think they would win.

I truly don’t think USC would beat LSU. The Tigers are really good. They’re just burdened by an imbecile coach. Speaking of imbecile coaches, I can’t take USC seriously until Lincoln Riley realizes he has to play defense as well.

Beating A&M is a different matter. We will gladly pull for any B1G team there. They’re an embarrassment to the state of Texas, college football, and common decency.

[Here for the Wins]

1 hour ago, LovingBuckeye said:

 

You can think whatever you want, but I am trying to educate you so you aren’t surprised on 8/30. Much like Texas, Ohio State doesn’t have “overrated” defensive lines. They are always elite recruits coached by an elite coaching staff.

In looking at last years Texas v Ohio State, the 3 DLine guys I see referenced played a total of 39 snaps.  They’ve been around 2, 3 and 4 years.  Your last years front 4 were 4th and 5th year guys all with tons more plays.  Kanu played as many snaps as one other dude.  As best we can gather, he’s 3rd team here.

As for our Oline, we have two guys that have logged over 1,000 (1,300/1,800).  Goosby had as many or more than your 3 returning guys on the Dline last year.  Our 4th hasn’t played a ton but been here a long time.

So our inexperienced OLine is more experienced in our system than your Dline is in yours.

[LovingBuckeye]

36 minutes ago, Tuco Ramirez said:

It’s hard to take Illinois and Indiana seriously. Although Indiana was consistently good for betting the team total. South Carolina was very good at the end of the season. I do think they would win.

I truly don’t think USC would beat LSU. The Tigers are really good. They’re just burdened by an imbecile coach. Speaking of imbecile coaches, I can’t take USC seriously until Lincoln Riley realizes he has to play defense as well.

Beating A&M is a different matter. We will gladly pull for any B1G team there. They’re an embarrassment to the state of Texas, college football, and common decency.

 

6 minutes ago, Here for the Wins said:

In looking at last years Texas v Ohio State, the 3 DLine guys I see referenced played a total of 39 snaps.  They’ve been around 2, 3 and 4 years.  Your last years front 4 were 4th and 5th year guys all with tons more plays.  Kanu played as many snaps as one other dude.  As best we can gather, he’s 3rd team here.

As for our Oline, we have two guys that have logged over 1,000 (1,300/1,800).  Goosby had as many or more than your 3 returning guys on the Dline last year.  Our 4th hasn’t played a ton but been here a long time.

So our inexperienced OLine is more experienced in our system than your Dline is in yours.

As far as Hero is concerned, he would have either been 2nd or 3rd team here as well, and that is why he left.

[LovingBuckeye]

37 minutes ago, Tuco Ramirez said:

It’s hard to take Illinois and Indiana seriously. Although Indiana was consistently good for betting the team total. South Carolina was very good at the end of the season. I do think they would win.

I truly don’t think USC would beat LSU. The Tigers are really good. They’re just burdened by an imbecile coach. Speaking of imbecile coaches, I can’t take USC seriously until Lincoln Riley realizes he has to play defense as well.

Beating A&M is a different matter. We will gladly pull for any B1G team there. They’re an embarrassment to the state of Texas, college football, and common decency.

The funny thing is USC did beat LSU, Illinois did beat South Carolina lol

[Here for the Wins]

For some more consideration, of the top 5 PFF graded Olinemen with 100+ snaps, you lose 4 of 5 with only #4 returning.  Who by the way had fewer snaps than Goosby.

Ultimately, I’m not certain your Oline is more experienced than ours.  We need our returnees to step up bigger.

[f1revo]

1 hour ago, LovingBuckeye said:

Don’t play into the SEC stereotypes haha. I’m talking on the field, I don’t care for hypotheticals. We know Michigan can beat Alabama, can Alabama beat Michigan? Idk, they haven’t been able to.

That's funny because Ohio State can't beat Michigan either!

[Tuco Ramirez]

12 minutes ago, LovingBuckeye said:

The funny thing is USC did beat LSU, Illinois did beat South Carolina lol

I don’t think they win this season. 

[Here for the Wins]

4 minutes ago, LovingBuckeye said:

 

As far as Hero is concerned, he would have either been 2nd or 3rd team here as well, and that is why he left.

I get it.  But that’s not an indication you’d be better on the interior.

I think much of these are tossups, and it’s a matter of who brings their A game.

I can’t speak to your team, but our staff is good at mixing skillsets, which is not the same as compiling talent, which we do as well.  People act as though Arch is young and inexperienced.  This is his 3rd year.  That’s not young.  He is relatively inexperienced, but he’s not without experience.  We’re balanced in our youth and maturity.  There will not be reliance on a freshmen or many true sophomores.  They’ll be pieces to the puzzle or already proven commodities.

In a sense, the loser of this game may be better served for the end of season run.

Im always confident, but I think we win by two scores.

[CHorn427]

1 hour ago, LovingBuckeye said:

I consider the middle - USC, Washington, Nebraska, Iowa, Washington, Indiana, Illinois, Wisconsin.

I consider the top Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, and Oregon.

USC beat LSU & Texas A&M, Illinois beat South Carolina, USC & Nebraska are two of the bluest blue bloods in the sport, and Washington just played for a national championship two seasons ago.

Nebraska hasn’t been a contending team since 2001. USC hasn’t been a contending team since 2005. 
 

USC has potential to get back to a perennial contender if a coach can emerge that just locks down California recruiting and can poach nationally. I do not think Nebraska can ever get back to their heyday. They’ve only ever won with one style and that style is gone. No elite recruits actually want to live in Nebraska.

I can see 5 teams from the Big10 ever actually winning a modern title: Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Oregon and USC. I’d be willing to bet good money no other team from the Big10 will win a championship in the next 10 years at least.
 

In the SEC, there’s 8 teams (Bama, UGA, Texas, OU, LSU, Auburn, Florida, Tennessee) that have won since 1998. That’s literally half the conference. I could also see TAMU or Ole Miss contending for national titles in the next 10 years. 

[tmataya]

On 8/19/2025 at 12:41 PM, LovingBuckeye said:

I agree. I think Texas’ OL is going to struggle massively.

That is what Michigan said last year with their NFL DL and that didn’t go as they thought. We will see. 

[LovingBuckeye]

44 minutes ago, Here for the Wins said:

For some more consideration, of the top 5 PFF graded Olinemen with 100+ snaps, you lose 4 of 5 with only #4 returning.  Who by the way had fewer snaps than Goosby.

Ultimately, I’m not certain your Oline is more experienced than ours.  We need our returnees to step up bigger.

The same IOL (Luke Montgomery, Carson Hinzman, and Tegra Tshabola) started and played the entire games against Indiana, Michigan, Tennessee, Oregon, Texas, and Notre Dame. Phillip Daniels started the second half of the season for Minnesota.

Your OL is really that experienced?

[LovingBuckeye]

3 minutes ago, tmataya said:

That is what Michigan said last year with their NFL DL and that didn’t go as they thought. We will see. 

Michigan’s talent doesn’t come anywhere near Ohio State, neither does their DL coaching. They rely on developing low 4* and high 3*. 

[Lnghrn]

5 hours ago, LovingBuckeye said:

That is why I wanted to come here and give my opinions. Same goes for Texas by the way. I learned that the Texas offensive line isn’t nearly as inexperienced as I thought they were.

My prediction is 31-17 Ohio State. I’ve been wrong plenty FYI, and will probably be wrong here too lol

I would be shocked if Ohio st scores 31 on Texas defense with a qb who has never started a game.  Texas defense will be one of, if not the best, in the country.  The only way they score 31 is if Texas gives the ball away several times.

Realize Texas has a history of stopping long home winning streaks.  Nebraska has won  over 50 straight games when UT beat them.  Alabama had a long home win streak when we knocked them off a couple of years ago.  

[tmataya]

3 hours ago, CHorn427 said:

I was curious- since the start of the Urban Meyer era Ohio State has played four games against OOC P5 teams at home that were ranked at the time of playing or at the end of the season (OU in 2017, TCU in 2018, Oregon in 2021 and ND in 2022). 2-2 in those games. Also a home loss to VaTech sprinkled in there. Not quite the indomitable fortress it's made out to be. 

Saban thought he had a fortress too. 

[Hookem72]

I got $20 LovingBuckeye ghosts this board in 11 days.  🤘🤘🤘

[Lnghrn]

2 hours ago, LovingBuckeye said:

really, you don’t think Illinois can beat South Carolina? Or USC can beat LSU or Texas A&M? Interesting 

USC has been a soft ass program for years under Lincoln Riley.   Illinois has been a shitty team for years.  

[Lnghrn]

2 hours ago, LovingBuckeye said:

Don’t play into the SEC stereotypes haha. I’m talking on the field, I don’t care for hypotheticals. We know Michigan can beat Alabama, can Alabama beat Michigan? Idk, they haven’t been able to.

A Harbaugh Michigan team could beat Bama, but not a Sherrone Moore team.  Still baffles me that Ohio State lost to a Moore team.

[Jarveaux]

I expect our defense will Stop the RB’s & our edges will hurry the QB . I see interceptions by our defense. Also i don’t expect their defense to slow our offense down. I expect Jeremiah Smith to be double teamed. I see a big Texas win . I believe in our offense.

[Here for the Wins]

22 minutes ago, LovingBuckeye said:

The same IOL (Luke Montgomery, Carson Hinzman, and Tegra Tshabola) started and played the entire games against Indiana, Michigan, Tennessee, Oregon, Texas, and Notre Dame. Phillip Daniels started the second half of the season for Minnesota.

Your OL is really that experienced?

I quoted you some snap counts.

A guy you call a non-starter for us has 1,300 snaps.  Hinzman has 1,355.  DJ Campbell has 1,800, which is double the amount of snaps of your highest Olineman last year.  Goosby had more than Montgomery and started two games with two additional 40+ snap games amongst A&M, Clemson, Arizona State and Georgia, which may have some 1st rounders in that bunch.  Now, we have a potential starter at LG in his 4th year and a primary backup also in his 4th year.  They haven’t played much, but they’ve been behind multi year starters.  Then I believe a 5* at RT in his 2nd year.

So 3,500 snaps.  Now 17 seasons on campus.  All but 1 have been around 2 final 4 appearances.  They’ve worked against the highest drafted DTs for parts of that time in practice.  Top notch DEs too.

It is certainly reasonable to claim we have the best G of the bunch and the best T.  Like I said, we’ll see.

But you tell me.  Is that experienced?

[LovingBuckeye]

3 hours ago, f1revo said:

That's funny because Ohio State can't beat Michigan either!

lol unfortunately not. But unfortunately for Texas, Ohio State doesn’t have a Michigan problem with them 😉

[LovingBuckeye]

2 hours ago, Here for the Wins said:

I get it.  But that’s not an indication you’d be better on the interior.

I think much of these are tossups, and it’s a matter of who brings their A game.

I can’t speak to your team, but our staff is good at mixing skillsets, which is not the same as compiling talent, which we do as well.  People act as though Arch is young and inexperienced.  This is his 3rd year.  That’s not young.  He is relatively inexperienced, but he’s not without experience.  We’re balanced in our youth and maturity.  There will not be reliance on a freshmen or many true sophomores.  They’ll be pieces to the puzzle or already proven commodities.

In a sense, the loser of this game may be better served for the end of season run.

Im always confident, but I think we win by two scores.

Yeah, regardless of who wins on 8/30 both teams will be among the favorites to win the national championship all season long.

[LovingBuckeye]

2 hours ago, CHorn427 said:

Nebraska hasn’t been a contending team since 2001. USC hasn’t been a contending team since 2005. 
 

USC has potential to get back to a perennial contender if a coach can emerge that just locks down California recruiting and can poach nationally. I do not think Nebraska can ever get back to their heyday. They’ve only ever won with one style and that style is gone. No elite recruits actually want to live in Nebraska.

I can see 5 teams from the Big10 ever actually winning a modern title: Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Oregon and USC. I’d be willing to bet good money no other team from the Big10 will win a championship in the next 10 years at least.
 

In the SEC, there’s 8 teams (Bama, UGA, Texas, OU, LSU, Auburn, Florida, Tennessee) that have won since 1998. That’s literally half the conference. I could also see TAMU or Ole Miss contending for national titles in the next 10 years. 

The same can be said for Ole Miss, Auburn, Florida, and A&M. A&M has not been a contender in my life time. Ole Miss has not been a contender in my lifetime. Florida has not been a contender for 17 years and Auburn is nearly as long.

 

[LovingBuckeye]

2 hours ago, Lnghrn said:

I would be shocked if Ohio st scores 31 on Texas defense with a qb who has never started a game.  Texas defense will be one of, if not the best, in the country.  The only way they score 31 is if Texas gives the ball away several times.

Realize Texas has a history of stopping long home winning streaks.  Nebraska has won  over 50 straight games when UT beat them.  Alabama had a long home win streak when we knocked them off a couple of years ago.  

Ohio State doesn’t have a long home winning streak, so not an issue.