V.Tech pulling rev share payments and scholarships for 'redshirts'

[Realist Horn]

Several players have redshirted after the firing of the coach with the intention to preserve a year for when they portal. If the redshirt is the players choice, and not from the school, that to me is akin to "opting out" and thus, I am not sure if I have an issue withholding the payments. 

 

 

 

[Tuco Ramirez]

This should be pretty straightforward depending on the language in the contracts. On the surface, I don’t have a problem with a school not paying someone for not working, but the school can’t unilaterally enforce that unless the contract allows it. However, to call it fraudulent misrepresentation seems excessive. 

[HDub1995]

It depends on the way VT wrote their contracts. Now, you’re going to see players negotiate for additional clauses if the head coach leaves. It’s already a way to enter the portal. 
 

I get VT’s argument, but I’m not sure it meets the spirit of the bylaw they are citing. Heitner is already bringing suit against them. We’ll see. 

[Bobby Burton]

These NIL rev share contracts can NOT be pay for play. Yet those are the grounds Va Tech is using to stop payment.

Again, the charade has to stop.

[Stuey22]

29 minutes ago, Bobby Burton said:

These NIL rev share contracts can NOT be pay for play. Yet those are the grounds Va Tech is using to stop payment.

Again, the charade has to stop.

Then what can the schools do?  It’s disingenuous to say all the hypocrisy is on the schools.  These kids have put in their 2 week notice and expect to be paid for the rest of the year.  

[harveycmd]

5 minutes ago, Stuey22 said:

Then what can the schools do?  It’s disingenuous to say all the hypocrisy is on the schools.  These kids have put in their 2 week notice and expect to be paid for the rest of the year.  

The schools need to make them employees if they want to legally treat them like employees. Part of the stupidity of the SCORE Act is it would prevent student-athletes from "ever" being employees. It makes no sense. 

[Inspired73]

Sounds to me like VT has some serious money issues......as do a lot of other schools.  They just happen to be the first using this approach.

As I said several months ago, the UIL/money grab is going to create a 2 tiered Division 1.  It will probably end up structures something similar to English soccer league where it is 2 tiered.

 

[brianb722]

35 minutes ago, Stuey22 said:

Then what can the schools do?  It’s disingenuous to say all the hypocrisy is on the schools.  These kids have put in their 2 week notice and expect to be paid for the rest of the year.  

Based on your analogy then the players should be allowed to leave and play somewhere else in 2 weeks. But they're not. 

[Oldest Horn]

If they’re opting out and refusing to play then withholding their money is truly justified. 

[A-10HORN]

2 hours ago, Oldest Horn said:

If they’re opting out and refusing to play then withholding their money is truly justified. 

Agree. Looking at it beyond just “what does the contract say” if players want to leave they shouldn’t get paid for just sitting on their ass. 

[ArizonaLonghorn]

2 hours ago, Inspired73 said:

As I said several months ago, the UIL/money grab is going to create a 2 tiered Division 1. 

You could probably make a solid argument that it's already 3 tiered - those with near-zero hope of making the playoff (half? more?), those with a chance every few years if things break right for them, and the 15-20 true heavyweights whose fan bases will be angry if they are NOT in the running for the CFP at least every couple years.