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[CoachBobbyFinstock]

I think this was a case with unusual circumstances where trust was overextended. Sarkisian had some off field things and needed his staff to step up. 
 

Flood was trusted and he dropped the ball in a big way. Not to mention these guys have shown minimal improvement since arriving. The Stroh and Neto thing was weird by itself. We had one class carry the load for years basically and then the chickens came home to roost. 
 

This is a long time coming imo. Sark hasn’t given the Oline the attention it’s needed from a financial standpoint perhaps but Flood did this program no favors through eval and development. 

Edited 3 hours ago by CoachBobbyFinstock

[SchoolColors]

6 minutes ago, CoachBobbyFinstock said:

I think this was a case with unusual circumstances where trust was overextended. Sarkisian had some off field things and needed his staff to step up. 
 

Flood was trusted and he dropped the ball in a big way. Not to mention these guys have shown minimal improvement since arriving. The Stroh and Neto thing was weird by itself. We had one class carry the load for years basically and then the chickens came home to roost. 
 

This is a long time coming imo. Sark hasn’t given the Oline the attention it’s needed from a financial standpoint perhaps but Flood did this program no favors through eval and development. 

You do know that Sark is the decider on who Flood offers and prioritizes, right? Blaming Flood for his boss disappearing in the spring for 30+ days and the no one at the university being able to get ahold of him while missing a junior day for “flu” is certainly a choice. 

[PaulieD]

12 hours ago, Gerry Hamilton said:

Sark is the head coach. 

It's Sark's scheme.

It's Sark's play calls.

Sark watches every practice and game. 

Sark has say and part of the evaluation of every recruit in the program. 

He has final say on every personnel decision.

So yes. 

Last time I looked, the buck stops at the top.  HC is responsible for everything.  

Maybe having some help in the box with play calling can help/helps with keeping attention on the whole picture???

[PaulieD]

11 minutes ago, CoachBobbyFinstock said:

I think this was a case with unusual circumstances where trust was overextended. Sarkisian had some off field things and needed his staff to step up. 
 

Flood was trusted and he dropped the ball in a big way. Not to mention these guys have shown minimal improvement since arriving. The Stroh and Neto thing was weird by itself. We had one class carry the load for years basically and then the chickens came home to roost. 
 

This is a long time coming imo. Sark hasn’t given the Oline the attention it’s needed from a financial standpoint perhaps but Flood did this program no favors through eval and development. 

My thoughts again are that Sark trusted subordinates TOO much - this can happen in business as well - coach has had his wakeup call.

[PaulieD]

5 minutes ago, SchoolColors said:

You do know that Sark is the decider on who Flood offers and prioritizes, right? Blaming Flood for his boss disappearing in the spring for 30+ days and the no one at the university being able to get ahold of him while missing a junior day for “flu” is certainly a choice. 

Just asking - did this have anything to do with his wife giving birth?

[SchoolColors]

Just now, PaulieD said:

Just asking - did this have anything to do with his wife giving birth?

No

[Bobby Burton]

12 hours ago, JMarquette said:

I think it’s fairly reasonable to suggest that an all Big 10 guy at the LG position would have made a significant difference.

Indeed. But what do you want them to do about it? He chose another school. Are you blaming them for not recruiting him or are you blaming them for not signing him?

They recruited him. They couldn’t sign him.

Those are two very different things.

[MBHORNSFAN]

9 hours ago, JMarquette said:

You asked for a fix - that’s the fix. Sorry you’re too stupid to understand that.

 

@GoHorns1 Just ignore this guy. He just cannot have a discussion without insults and personal attacks.  

[MBHORNSFAN]

9 hours ago, JMarquette said:

You asked for a fix - that’s the fix. Sorry you’re too stupid to understand that.

 

[JMarquette]

33 minutes ago, MBHORNSFAN said:

 

Dude you called me a r*tard earlier this year, you are literally THE LAST person to lecture anyone. I also don’t need to be lectured by some old guy who got kicked off other boards, if I offend you so much, mute me.

[JMarquette]

1 hour ago, Bobby Burton said:

Indeed. But what do you want them to do about it? He chose another school. Are you blaming them for not recruiting him or are you blaming them for not signing him?

They recruited him. They couldn’t sign him.

Those are two very different things.

Both to an extent. Texas didn’t let Endries or Watson see any other campuses because they basically trumped everyone else’s offer by a significant amount. The same could have been done for Pregnon, but wasn’t. That was an exceptionally bad choice by the staff. Obviously nothing they can do about it now, but it’s worth pointing out that it absolutely *could* have been done. If Pregnon went to Oregon because he liked it more, fine. But we should have treated his recruitment like Watson’s or Endries. Hindsight is 20/20, so it is what it is. 

[JMarquette]

56 minutes ago, MBHORNSFAN said:

 

@GoHorns1 Just ignore this guy. He just cannot have a discussion without insults and personal attacks.  

Considering the guy insulted me first, I think I was justified. You could have gathered that by reading, but I know it’s tough for you. 

[MBHORNSFAN]

11 minutes ago, JMarquette said:

Considering the guy insulted me first, I think I was justified. You could have gathered that by reading, but I know it’s tough for you. 

 

And here you are again. You just cannot help yourself.... 

[MBHORNSFAN]

19 minutes ago, JMarquette said:

Dude you called me a r*tard earlier this year, you are literally THE LAST person to lecture anyone. I also don’t need to be lectured by some old guy who got kicked off other boards, if I offend you so much, mute me.

 

Never been kicked off any boards. Why do you continue to Lie?   You appear to have an issue with lying. Hope you get help. 

[JMarquette]

5 minutes ago, MBHORNSFAN said:

 

And here you are again. You just cannot help yourself.... 

You again avoid my point, it’s really sad you can’t engage in any substantive discussion. Just a sad old man living his life on a keyboard. 

[MBHORNSFAN]

2 minutes ago, JMarquette said:

You again avoid my point, it’s really sad you can’t engage in any substantive discussion. Just a sad old man living his life on a keyboard. 

 

thanks buddy. I do hope you get help. You seem to really struggle with self-esteem among other things.  You also seem to find joy in insulting everyone here. Good luck to you. 

[Joe Zura]

[Jeff Howe]

I don't care who insulted who first. A handful of posters are derailing threads, and I'm tired of the childish behavior.

Grow up and stop cluttering the board with nonsense.

[General Grant]

2 hours ago, CoachBobbyFinstock said:

I think this was a case with unusual circumstances where trust was overextended. Sarkisian had some off field things and needed his staff to step up. 
 

Flood was trusted and he dropped the ball in a big way. Not to mention these guys have shown minimal improvement since arriving. The Stroh and Neto thing was weird by itself. We had one class carry the load for years basically and then the chickens came home to roost. 
 

This is a long time coming imo. Sark hasn’t given the Oline the attention it’s needed from a financial standpoint perhaps but Flood did this program no favors through eval and development. 

All very well said imo.  Good summary. 

[MBHORNSFAN]

2 hours ago, CoachBobbyFinstock said:

I think this was a case with unusual circumstances where trust was overextended. Sarkisian had some off field things and needed his staff to step up. 
 

Flood was trusted and he dropped the ball in a big way. Not to mention these guys have shown minimal improvement since arriving. The Stroh and Neto thing was weird by itself. We had one class carry the load for years basically and then the chickens came home to roost. 
 

This is a long time coming imo. Sark hasn’t given the Oline the attention it’s needed from a financial standpoint perhaps but Flood did this program no favors through eval and development. 

 

Valid points...   

[Tex CJ-7]

What about strength and conditioning? Our OL doesn’t look very strong in the run game. Way too many stuffs. Does that role not need to be examined? Curious 

Edited 37 minutes ago by Tex CJ-7

[Los Cuernos]

15 hours ago, Gerry Hamilton said:

Wild thread haha

If Sark moved on from Flood ... that would be scapegoat firing pure and simple to cover his failure at the head coaching position. 

 

 

My thoughts exactly, Gerry.   Let’s just focus on the remaining three games.  🤘

[General Grant]

Flood’s future I don’t know.  I think the room has to be evaluated at the end of the season.  Assuming Baker and Goosby are back, who are the backups?  Chatman has been dinged and another T had a knee injury.  Who’s the competition and backups?  Can we bring in some guys with experience to compete?  Is Brooks a tackle?

Same for G.  Who starts who competes?  The need for Stroh to play is an indictment on the other players.  I think you have to bring in guys, 2 is my over under.

Robertson at center and Cruz backing him up I can buy.  I think.

Saturday looms large for how the room truly looks.

Edited 31 minutes ago by General Grant

[MBHORNSFAN]

2 minutes ago, General Grant said:

Flood’s future I don’t know.  I think the room has to be evaluated at the end of the season.  Assuming Baker and Goosby are back, who are the backups?  Chatman has been dinged and another T had a knee injury.  Who’s the competition and backups?  Can we bring in some guys with experience to compete?  Is Brooks a tackle?

Same for G.  Who starts who competes?  The need for Stroh to play is an indictment on the other players.  I think you have to bring in guys, 2 is my over under.

Robertson at center and Cruz backing him up I can buy.  I think.

Saturday looms large for how the room truly looks.

 

I do not any scenario where we should not bring in several portal OL.