Did Penn State commit program suicide?

[CHorn427]

It seems like PSU pulled a 2013 Mack Brown, but much more acrimoniously and in the NIL and transfer portal age. 
 

They have 2 recruits committed. HC candidates are turning them down. 
 

They need to pull a serious rabbit out of a hat. This seems like it could make them irrelevant for a bit. 

[kobe moldrem]

Looks like it’s going to be their interim 

[AusMOJO]

I bet Franklin is laughing his ass of, counting his benjamins and now coaching at another school so quickly. 

[ClubWhatever]

DeBoer really wants the job.  They have to wait for him to play the CCG.

[Califashorn75]

1 hour ago, ClubWhatever said:

DeBoer really wants the job.  They have to wait for him to play the CCG.

I think you are on to something.  

[MBHORNSFAN]

1 hour ago, ClubWhatever said:

DeBoer really wants the job.  They have to wait for him to play the CCG.

 

If true Penn State should just wait and quit offering the job to Jags 

[Chinadoll10]

2 minutes ago, MBHORNSFAN said:

 

If true Penn State should just wait and quit offering the job to Jags 

I agree. The whole fiasco with BYU is a horrible look for PSU.

[EHoff99]

1 hour ago, ClubWhatever said:

DeBoer really wants the job.  They have to wait for him to play the CCG.

Why in the world would he do that to himself?

[Realist Horn]

2 hours ago, ClubWhatever said:

DeBoer really wants the job.  They have to wait for him to play the CCG.

If so, he’s wasted a year of recruiting and will have to fill his roster via the portal. Doesn’t make a lot of sense. 

[Gerry Hamilton]

Worst signing day for a major program I have ever seen ... and it's not even close 

Penn State fired James Franklin, and has now given Franklin a major head start on building VaTech quickly because he flipped/signed 6-7 Penn State level recruits that will now be in the ACC. 

[EHoff99]

22 minutes ago, Gerry Hamilton said:

Worst signing day for a major program I have ever seen ... and it's not even close 

Penn State fired James Franklin, and has now given Franklin a major head start on building VaTech quickly because he flipped/signed 6-7 Penn State level recruits that will now be in the ACC. 

On top of them losing probably 7-10 guys in the draft, and then whoever portals out.... They're going to need to bring in a massive portal class if they want to field a competent team.

[CHorn427]

2 hours ago, ClubWhatever said:

DeBoer really wants the job.  They have to wait for him to play the CCG.

Or is this the “Saban to Texas” a la 2013?

Bama will need to lose the SECCG by 3 scores for the committee to even CONSIDER leaving them out in any scenario.
 

The only scenario Bama could even be left out is if BYU wins. And I don’t even think they would be left out then. The committee postured exactly the way they needed to keep Bama in no matter what. If BYU wins and Bama loses, Bama bumps to 10 and ND is out. That is exactly why they flipped ND and Bama.

The SEC #1 seed would not be left out due to a championship game outcome. The SEC would burn the CFB world to the ground.

If ND is excluded, literally who cares other than ND and their fans? ND has zero leverage. ND NEEDS the conferences more than anyone needs ND (which is not at all). 

[CHorn427]

2 hours ago, ClubWhatever said:

DeBoer really wants the job.  They have to wait for him to play the CCG.

There’s a very low chance Bama will be left out of the CFP regardless of the outcome of that game, and imo an even lower chance DeBoer would leave a CFP bound Bama in the lurch a la Kiffin.

DeBoer is not a Kiffin-type, and even if he was PSU is not LSU. Kiffin inherited a Top 15 class before any Ole Miss to LSU flips or transfers are factored in. Whoever takes over PSU is inheriting the 150 class! TWO RECRUITS! 

[HookemTexas]

24 minutes ago, CHorn427 said:

There’s a very low chance Bama will be left out of the CFP regardless of the outcome of that game, and imo an even lower chance DeBoer would leave a CFP bound Bama in the lurch a la Kiffin.

DeBoer is not a Kiffin-type, and even if he was PSU is not LSU. Kiffin inherited a Top 15 class before any Ole Miss to LSU flips or transfers are factored in. Whoever takes over PSU is inheriting the 150 class! TWO RECRUITS! 

The rebuild at Penn St. is going to be just like when it was post Joe Paterno.  It's going to be literally ashes.

[TexasFanatic]

1 hour ago, EHoff99 said:

Why in the world would he do that to himself?

PSU will give him 5/6 years given circumstances. 

[EHoff99]

8 minutes ago, TexasFanatic said:

PSU will give him 5/6 years given circumstances. 

Alabama is just simply a better job and he's already stacking recruiting classes and building a team he likes. I mean, he already has Keelon Russell waiting to take over. It doesn't get much better than that.

[TexasFanatic]

Just now, EHoff99 said:

Alabama is just simply a better job and he's already stacking recruiting classes and building a team he likes. I mean, he already has Keelon Russell waiting to take over. It doesn't get much better than that.

He can always take Russell with a massive NiL deal to PSU. Gerry said Deboer doesn’t like Bama 

[CHorn427]

5 minutes ago, TexasFanatic said:

He can always take Russell with a massive NiL deal to PSU. Gerry said Deboer doesn’t like Bama 

He would need to disdain Alabama to leave them for PSU under these conditions imo. 

[jkates]

2 hours ago, Gerry Hamilton said:

Worst signing day for a major program I have ever seen ... and it's not even close 

Penn State fired James Franklin, and has now given Franklin a major head start on building VaTech quickly because he flipped/signed 6-7 Penn State level recruits that will now be in the ACC. 

I have heard that he may get a few more PSU guys to VaTech via the portal. 

[EHoff99]

27 minutes ago, TexasFanatic said:

He can always take Russell with a massive NiL deal to PSU. Gerry said Deboer doesn’t like Bama 

Where did he say that? and why?

[FootLaw]

Those saying Bama is a better job than Penn State aren't wrong. However, Penn State isn't trash either. It's a good academic school in the Big 10 with a stadium that seats 106k and a fanbase obsessed with football. Not like it's a terrible gig. JF had them competitive most years but only won the Big 10 once. They gave him 11 years. Imagine what KD could do. Same general argument if USC opened up.

Saban looking over your shoulder with an office in the facility and a possibly unbeatable legacy is a lot to deal with. Bama fans are ruthless from the Saban entitlement. Not everybody loves that idea. I'm not saying KD will leave or stay but I wouldn't be surprised either way. Penn State would hire him in a heartbeat and give him plenty of rebuilding time if he wanted out of Bama.

Edited 20 minutes ago by FootLaw