Texas Basketball NIL Questions

[jkates]

As NIL, revenue sharing, and the transfer portal redefine roster economics, it feels worth digging into how Texas basketball is structuring its strategy and whether we are optimizing. 

I am curious how others see it. What questions should we be asking @Gerry Hamilton about our NIL structure, priorities, and competitiveness?

 

Budget

What’s the estimated total NIL budget for Texas Men’s Basketball this season, and how does it compare nationally?

Can you break down what portion is revenue-sharing vs. collective funding vs. individual deals?

 

Players & Recruiting

How much NIL is reportedly being targeted at high-value players/transfer portal targets?

With so much attention on NIL and the transfer portal, how is Texas approaching NIL differently for incoming high-school recruits versus transfer portal targets — and how does that shape recruiting priorities for basketball?

 

Competitive Strategy

How does Texas’ NIL approach differ from peers like A&M, Oklahoma, or national powerhouses?

If we are not going to pay top dollar for the top guys, what is the best lane for Texas to be in from an NIL standpoint?

 

Booster Dynamics

What hoops-specific booster engagement exists outside of the Texas One Fund? Can Miller get his own whale?

Are there any emerging organizations or funding vehicles geared specifically to basketball?

 

What else should we be talking about in regards to NIL?

[TexasMDcoach]

The game last night, and comparing our talent level to Florida's, who also is a state school, raises questions of what we are doing compared to what they are doing in the realm of the above?   

[LonghornFan4Ever]

49 minutes ago, TexasMDcoach said:

The game last night, and comparing our talent level to Florida's, who also is a state school, raises questions of what we are doing compared to what they are doing in the realm of the above?   

Not sure, but that should be the blueprint imo.  Florida has had quite a bit of success in hoops in the last 40 years for a school that is viewed as a football school.  6 Final Fours, 10 Elite Eights, and 12 Sweet Sixteens is not bad at all.  Have to figure out what they are doing from an NIL and roster construction standpoint and implement it at Texas.  I think Sean Miller is the right guy from what I have seen this season.

[MBHORNSFAN]

1 hour ago, TexasMDcoach said:

The game last night, and comparing our talent level to Florida's, who also is a state school, raises questions of what we are doing compared to what they are doing in the realm of the above?   

 

We are not even close to the Gators in talent right now.... The gap is wide. 

[horn1]

Don't know the exact number, but I do know that when my son was guarding & battling Bo Ogden the other night in an extremely physical bi-district contest, Bo spouted off, "I'm making more in NIL than both your parent's salaries combined."

I chuckled because its probably true! Lol

 

[Gerry Hamilton]

2 hours ago, TexasMDcoach said:

The game last night, and comparing our talent level to Florida's, who also is a state school, raises questions of what we are doing compared to what they are doing in the realm of the above?   

That’s a 3-4 year build of a program you watched

Hough was a 3-star (3rd year in program)

Condon was ranked a 3-star out of Aussie (3rd year in program) 

Reuben C. Lightly recruiting out of HS to Washington state out of NBA Africa I believe (2nd year in program) 

SG Klavchar off bench was a 3-star out of Slovakia (3rd year in program).

Their NC team didn’t have a McDonald’s AA

It didn’t happen overnight …

Golden was 16-17 in year one (Florida fans thought he was a bust hire) 

Lost in Round of 64 year two (when Hough, Condon were freshman) 

Will Texas fans afford the time for Miller to build? I already see signs of no, just being 100% real. 

[Paul Jespersen]

Miller is a FANTASTIC hire... I hope he gets the patience and support he needs...

🤘

[Bevohorns]

17 minutes ago, Gerry Hamilton said:

Golden was 16-17 in year one (Florida fans thought he was a bust hire) 

Lost in Round of 64 year two (when Hough, Condon were freshman) 

Will Texas fans afford the time for Miller to build? I already see signs of no, just being 100% real. 

He won the natty in year 3 so you saying miller isnt going to get time to build is kinda weird to say. Miller is getting at least 3 years and if he cant get us to be at least a ranked team by then hes not building up program (not saying bc of his coaching btw). You know most texas fans just want a consistent top 16 team not a natty or bust mentality for basketball. I mean we give sark everything and has yet to win it all and people love him 😂. I have not heard anyone complain that miller is not building this program up in fact most I have heard is that next year they expect him to build on top of what he has established in matas, heide, Wilcher, and the recruits coming in.

Edited 7 hours ago by Bevohorns

[JMarquette]

15 minutes ago, Gerry Hamilton said:

That’s a 3-4 year build of a program you watched

Hough was a 3-star (3rd year in program)

Condon was ranked a 3-star out of Aussie (3rd year in program) 

Reuben C. Lightly recruiting out of HS to Washington state out of NBA Africa I believe (2nd year in program) 

SG Klavchar off bench was a 3-star out of Slovakia (3rd year in program).

Their NC team didn’t have a McDonald’s AA

It didn’t happen overnight …

Golden was 16-17 in year one (Florida fans thought he was a bust hire) 

Lost in Round of 64 year two (when Hough, Condon were freshman) 

Will Texas fans afford the time for Miller to build? I already see signs of no, just being 100% real. 

When you say “signs,” are you talking about people who actually have decision-making or making significant NIL support?

[Bevohorns]

I trust CDC gives him good funds this offseason. He knows basketball is a revenue sport no reason to not give him at least what Florida is getting and I think the proof is in the recruiting class. 

[texcoyote15]

4 hours ago, Gerry Hamilton said:

That’s a 3-4 year build of a program you watched

Hough was a 3-star (3rd year in program)

Condon was ranked a 3-star out of Aussie (3rd year in program) 

Reuben C. Lightly recruiting out of HS to Washington state out of NBA Africa I believe (2nd year in program) 

SG Klavchar off bench was a 3-star out of Slovakia (3rd year in program).

Their NC team didn’t have a McDonald’s AA

It didn’t happen overnight …

Golden was 16-17 in year one (Florida fans thought he was a bust hire) 

Lost in Round of 64 year two (when Hough, Condon were freshman) 

Will Texas fans afford the time for Miller to build? I already see signs of no, just being 100% real. 

It’s stupid if they don’t give him time. I’m definitely liking him and willing to give him time. My question would be who are you going to get that is better?  I don’t know if you can win at Texas in basketball or not. I don’t mean win a little bit…….. I mean consistently win and win a championship. I don’t know with the way Texas is structured what our ceiling is.  CDC isn’t going to pay 8-10 million for a basketball coach. So with the money CDC is willing to pay, my question would be who are you going to get that is better?

[Gerry Hamilton]

5 hours ago, JMarquette said:

When you say “signs,” are you talking about people who actually have decision-making or making significant NIL support?

No, just the fan base with unrealistic expectations in a super duper, hyper speed instant gratification mode

[Jordan91]

Said fans have no power. What are they going to do? Not show up to games because they don’t like him not winning fast enough? Shaka was here for six years. And three of those were with Strong as the football coach. People wanted him fired after year two. He still coached four more years. Rodney Terry got two years. How is an unhappy small fan base going to force him out after year two? We have no BMDs that I know of that could force that move. He’s already exceeded expectations. Even if he falls off the cliff next year I think they give him more time. We have had two and a half years for RT and one and a half for Beard. I don’t know CDC, and I have zero inside information, but just based off the revolving door from the last two coaches I don’t see him doing anything. I am more worried about Miller leaving than Miller being fired. Will there be a lot of this player sucks next year if it’s bad? Sure, it was there for RT. Man people say players suck in the football threads, and they are winning. I get comparing him to Golden but why stop at getting to the sweet sixteen? Why not use him as a model to win a national championship? He doesn’t have a high NIL either, so why is the bar not set higher for Texas? 

[Jordan91]

9 hours ago, jkates said:

As NIL, revenue sharing, and the transfer portal redefine roster economics, it feels worth digging into how Texas basketball is structuring its strategy and whether we are optimizing. 

I am curious how others see it. What questions should we be asking @Gerry Hamilton about our NIL structure, priorities, and competitiveness?

 

Budget

What’s the estimated total NIL budget for Texas Men’s Basketball this season, and how does it compare nationally?

Can you break down what portion is revenue-sharing vs. collective funding vs. individual deals?

 

Players & Recruiting

How much NIL is reportedly being targeted at high-value players/transfer portal targets?

With so much attention on NIL and the transfer portal, how is Texas approaching NIL differently for incoming high-school recruits versus transfer portal targets — and how does that shape recruiting priorities for basketball?

 

Competitive Strategy

How does Texas’ NIL approach differ from peers like A&M, Oklahoma, or national powerhouses?

If we are not going to pay top dollar for the top guys, what is the best lane for Texas to be in from an NIL standpoint?

 

Booster Dynamics

What hoops-specific booster engagement exists outside of the Texas One Fund? Can Miller get his own whale?

Are there any emerging organizations or funding vehicles geared specifically to basketball?

 

What else should we be talking about in regards to NIL?

I can only go off what Gerry says, and after reading his last two post game threads the money isn’t going to be there. So we are headed into a collision. Miller clearly loves it here and that guy hates losing more than he likes winning. If he wants more money and they tell him no, what does he do? I don’t think he came here to just get to the sweet sixteen every now and then. 

[ArizonaLonghorn]

10 minutes ago, Jordan91 said:

I get comparing him to Golden but why stop at getting to the sweet sixteen? Why not use him as a model to win a national championship? He doesn’t have a high NIL either, so why is the bar not set higher for Texas? 

If he didn't win a National Championship at a basketball power school like Arizona then why do you think he will win one at Texas?

At Arizona things were teed up for him to compete but he didn't even make it to a Final Four.  Arizona had shoe $ NIL before NIL was legal and consistent Top 10 recruiting classes.  (Miller was caught on an FBI wiretap discussing a $75,000 payment to the # 1 ranked recruit, who went to Zona and was the # 1 pick in the NBA draft.) The previous head coach had won a Natty and made four Final Fours in 24 years - Miller didn't make it to a FF in 12 years.  Looks like his successor could be on track to make it this season, they were ranked # 1 much of the year.  Most would consider Miller a very good coach but he hasn't yet shown he's elite.

I checked Miller's NCAA tourney record while he was at Zona.  Call it 11 years since covid meant no tourney in 2020 - they made the NCAAs seven times (Lute Olson went 23 times in a row).  Twice under Miller they outplayed their seeding - in 2011, his second year in Tucson they were seeded 5th but made it to the Elite 8, beating # 4 Texas and # 1 Duke.  These were his only two wins against teams seeded higher.  And in 2013 they were seeded 6 but went to the Sweet 16 by beating the # 11 and # 14 seeds.  

Another year (2015) they played to seed, seeded # 2 and losing to # 1 seed Wisconsin by 7.  No shame in that.

Four times they didn't play to their seeded level.  In 2014 they lost to # 2 Wisconsin as a # 1 seed in the Elite 8 in OT.  No shame there either.  But his last three NCAA appearances at Arizona were really disappointing, losing early to # 11 as a 6 seed by 11 points in the Round of 64, losing a close one to # 11 as a # 2 seed in the Sweet 16 and getting blown out 89-68 by the # 13 seed as a # 4 seed.

He also had Arizona in the NIT one year as a 1 seed but they lost to 8 seed Bucknell by 11 points.

He's a good coach - good teacher and good recruiter - but he still has to prove he can take teams deep in the tournament.