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2 minutes ago, ArizonaLonghorn said:

How does the Texas requirement that you complete 50% of your coursework at UT to earn a degree affect our ability to recruit juniors?  I see Sam Swan is listed as a junior at ASU so if she would lose say 1/3 of her credits transferring to UT she would probably need two more years to graduate, but at other schools more accepting of transfer hours she could graduate in a year.  (This was what Sark was referring to when he said you could take just one class at Ole Miss and earn a degree).

So seniors could portal in as grad transfers while portal frosh or sophs would potentially keep all or most of their credit hours, but juniors would take a hit, right?  

Swan graduated and is a grad transfer. But, you’re correct. White has even commented on it and his transfers usually have two years of eligibility left. 

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36 minutes ago, TexasEx_10 said:

Swan graduated and is a grad transfer. But, you’re correct. White has even commented on it and his transfers usually have two years of eligibility left. 

Ah, thanks, she's listed as a Junior on the ASU roster site I looked at, but good news for us that she's a graduate.

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1 hour ago, ArizonaLonghorn said:

How does the Texas requirement that you complete 50% of your coursework at UT to earn a degree affect our ability to recruit juniors?  I see Sam Swan is listed as a junior at ASU so if she would lose say 1/3 of her credits transferring to UT she would probably need two more years to graduate, but at other schools more accepting of transfer hours she could graduate in a year.  (This was what Sark was referring to when he said you could take just one class at Ole Miss and earn a degree).

So seniors could portal in as grad transfers while portal frosh or sophs would potentially keep all or most of their credit hours, but juniors would take a hit, right?  

Incorrect. The credits are accepted but in order graduate from Texas one must take 50% of the required hours at Texas.

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Look, everyone’s circling pieces of the truth here, but the actual situation is pretty simple: UT accepts your transfer credits, but that doesn’t mean they all apply toward a UT degree. That’s the whole ballgame.

Texas requires you to complete 50% of the hours for your major at UT. That’s why freshman and sophomore transfers slide in clean, grad transfers are easy, and juniors are the ones who get squeezed. It’s not that UT “throws away” credits - it’s that a junior who already banked 60–75 hours may suddenly only have room for 30–40 of them to count toward a UT degree plan. That can absolutely add a year.

This is exactly why White usually targets players with two years left. It’s not a mystery, it’s math.

As for Swan: She graduated early, she’s a grad transfer, and she’s reportedly been accepted to UT Law. None of that has anything to do with the undergrad 50% rule.

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4 hours ago, GoHorns1 said:

Incorrect. The credits are accepted but in order graduate from Texas one must take 50% of the required hours at Texas.

If i remember correctly all your core credits can be transferred its just the major specific credits that they limit. 

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19 minutes ago, HonkEm said:

Texas requires you to complete 50% of the hours for your major at UT. That’s why freshman and sophomore transfers slide in clean, grad transfers are easy, and juniors are the ones who get squeezed. It’s not that UT “throws away” credits - it’s that a junior who already banked 60–75 hours may suddenly only have room for 30–40 of them to count toward a UT degree plan. That can absolutely add a year.

This is exactly why White usually targets players with two years left. It’s not a mystery, it’s math.

I read it differently, but could be wrong.  Take my major at Texas, Electrical Engineering.  You need 120 credits to get the BSEE.  If you are say a generic junior at another school taking 30 credits per year you would typically have 90 credits (+/- a few) by the end of your junior year.

Texas will accept up to 60 of them towards a Texas degree (is the way I read it) since you must do 50% at UT or 60.  So basically you would lose a year's worth of credits in this example.

To take it to the extreme like Sark's Ole Miss basket weaving faux pas, if you had 117 credits you would lose 57 of them in the sense they would not apply towards your Texas degree, while a school like Ole Miss might take all of them and require you to take just one more class to 'earn' your Ole Miss degree (an extreme example but Sark was making a point about why it's difficult for us to recruit juniors out of the portal). 

Basically any credits from other schools beyond 60 (in this engineering degree example) do indeed get "thrown away" in the sense that you aren't able to apply them towards a Texas degree, is the way I read it.

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11 minutes ago, ArizonaLonghorn said:

I read it differently, but could be wrong.  Take my major at Texas, Electrical Engineering.  You need 120 credits to get the BSEE.  If you are say a generic junior at another school taking 30 credits per year you would typically have 90 credits (+/- a few) by the end of your junior year.

Texas will accept up to 60 of them towards a Texas degree (is the way I read it) since you must do 50% at UT or 60.  So basically you would lose a year's worth of credits in this example.

To take it to the extreme like Sark's Ole Miss basket weaving faux pas, if you had 117 credits you would lose 57 of them in the sense they would not apply towards your Texas degree, while a school like Ole Miss might take all of them and require you to take just one more class to 'earn' your Ole Miss degree (an extreme example but Sark was making a point about why it's difficult for us to recruit juniors out of the portal). 

Basically any credits from other schools beyond 60 (in this engineering degree example) do indeed get "thrown away" in the sense that you aren't able to apply them towards a Texas degree, is the way I read it.

Think you’re mixing up two different things: (1) how many hours UT accepts vs. (2) how many hours UT will actually apply to your major.

UT doesn’t cap transfer hours at 60. You can bring in 90, 100, 117 -  whatever. The issue is that UT requires 50% of your major coursework to be completed at UT, not 50% of your total hours.

So the “lost” hours aren’t thrown away by policy - they just don’t fit into the degree plan because the student already used up too many major‑specific slots somewhere else.

That’s why juniors get squeezed: they’ve already taken upper‑division courses that UT won’t substitute for its own major requirements.

Freshmen/sophomores slide in clean. Grad transfers slide in clean. Juniors are the ones who hit the wall.

It’s not a hard cap on 60 hours - it’s a major‑specific residency requirement. That’s why White targets players with two years left. It’s structural, not philosophical.

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