Tuco Ramirez Posted June 5 Posted June 5 22 minutes ago, HookemTexas said: Kavan is getting all the accolades and rightfully so, but I also have to give props to Citlaly Gutierrez. I myself have been critical of her and didn't think she was a legit #2, but against Tennessee and Tech at the WCWS, she was lights out and gave the team a chance to win and that's all you can ask. And she did it with a smile on her face. Because of her outings, Kavan was able to get the needed rest to do what she does best. Totally agree. Citlaly went head to head against Canady and won in the deciding WCWS game. That’s no small feat. 5 Quote
UTexas Posted June 5 Posted June 5 15 minutes ago, CJ Vogel said: Same thread this time next year? Works for me. I'll be here. 2 Quote
Ace Recruiter Posted June 5 Posted June 5 1 hour ago, HookemTexas said: I haven't heard anything that's extraordinary, she gets credit for being the highest paid player at the time. Jordy Bahl Frahm likely took less money to go home to Nebraska and build that program (her home state) into a contender. To me that's more worthy. Karlyn Pickens was interviewed and said she was offered a ton more money (likely by Tech) but stayed at Tennessee because it means something to try to finish what you started. Reese Atwood was contacted by Tech last year during the WCWS and said no thanks I'm staying at Texas. Teagan Kavan has interviewers pull in who she believes should be recognized that usually do not get the spotlight (Altemeier). Those types of actions have more impact imo. This. Kavan, Kennedy and all the pitchers mentioned here are a big part of the rise in popularity of the sport. Kennedy got paid the most and yes she is dominant, but so are all the pitchers mentioned in your post. Kennedy is getting presented as the Caitlin Clark of softball and that she is not. She is part of the reason, but she is not the tip of the spear in that regard. 3 Quote
WRNC Posted June 5 Posted June 5 1 hour ago, HookemTexas said: I haven't heard anything that's extraordinary, she gets credit for being the highest paid player at the time. Jordy Bahl Frahm likely took less money to go home to Nebraska and build that program (her home state) into a contender. To me that's more worthy. Karlyn Pickens was interviewed and said she was offered a ton more money (likely by Tech) but stayed at Tennessee because it means something to try to finish what you started. Reese Atwood was contacted by Tech last year during the WCWS and said no thanks I'm staying at Texas. Teagan Kavan has interviewers pull in who she believes should be recognized that usually do not get the spotlight (Altemeier). Those types of actions have more impact imo. Followers on Instagram Jordyn Frahm (Bahl): 145,000 followers Karlyn Pickens: 139,000 followers NiJaree Canady: 120,000 followers Teagan Kavan: 59,000 followers Quote
Tuco Ramirez Posted June 5 Posted June 5 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Ace Recruiter said: This. Kavan, Kennedy and all the pitchers mentioned here are a big part of the rise in popularity of the sport. Kennedy got paid the most and yes she is dominant, but so are all the pitchers mentioned in your post. Kennedy is getting presented as the Caitlin Clark of softball and that she is not. She is part of the reason, but she is not the tip of the spear in that regard. Canady can’t hold a candle to Kavan. We’ve seen this head to head. Edited June 5 by Tuco Ramirez 3 Quote
HonkEm Posted June 5 Posted June 5 4 hours ago, ClubWhatever said: It also has less distance available to curve away from your bat. And of course the ball is like 50% bigger. Gotta side with the reaction‑time guy here. The whole point was how fast it gets on you, not how many inches it has to wiggle on the way in. A 70 from 43’ is still on the hitter quicker than a 92 from 60’6”. The ball being bigger doesn’t magically slow time down, and ‘less distance to curve’ doesn’t make it easier to hit - unless we’re just making up physics now.” 1 Quote
dentonhorn Posted June 5 Posted June 5 58 minutes ago, Ace Recruiter said: This. Kavan, Kennedy and all the pitchers mentioned here are a big part of the rise in popularity of the sport. Kennedy got paid the most and yes she is dominant, but so are all the pitchers mentioned in your post. Kennedy is getting presented as the Caitlin Clark of softball and that she is not. She is part of the reason, but she is not the tip of the spear in that regard. Exactly, as most don't even know how to spell her last name. 1 1 Quote
Califashorn75 Posted June 5 Posted June 5 The Tech coach reminds me of the late comedian Buddy Hackett who used his speech impediment as part of his act. 1 Quote
SB21 Posted June 5 Posted June 5 1 hour ago, Ace Recruiter said: This. Kavan, Kennedy and all the pitchers mentioned here are a big part of the rise in popularity of the sport. Kennedy got paid the most and yes she is dominant, but so are all the pitchers mentioned in your post. Kennedy is getting presented as the Caitlin Clark of softball and that she is not. She is part of the reason, but she is not the tip of the spear in that regard. No one said she was the tip of the spear and I didn’t even say she was the best Kavan definitely showed how it’s done 2 years in a row. I said tip of the hat to Canady in a show of respect and said she did help put eyes on sport for these women. There’s a difference in saying she did well versus saying she did “nothing for the sport” when being one of top pitchers of her time isn’t a small feat. She couldn’t beat us, we got to prove that twice when it mattered but no need to sit here and bash her was my point. Quote
Ace Recruiter Posted June 5 Posted June 5 40 minutes ago, dentonhorn said: Exactly, as most don't even know how to spell her last name. Touche! 🤣 1 Quote
Tuco Ramirez Posted June 5 Posted June 5 (edited) 3 minutes ago, THookem said: We’ll see about his poise in Dallas. Edited June 5 by Tuco Ramirez Quote
Ace Recruiter Posted June 5 Posted June 5 16 minutes ago, SB21 said: No one said she was the tip of the spear and I didn’t even say she was the best Kavan definitely showed how it’s done 2 years in a row. I said tip of the hat to Canady in a show of respect and said she did help put eyes on sport for these women. There’s a difference in saying she did well versus saying she did “nothing for the sport” when being one of top pitchers of her time isn’t a small feat. She couldn’t beat us, we got to prove that twice when it mattered but no need to sit here and bash her was my point. IMO, she didn't do anything more than those other pitchers mentioned above. She obviously contributed, but so did many others. She benefited financially from Cody and friends trying to buy their spot as a top tier athelic department and good for her. To say that she took a bunch of nobodies to the title game is a stretch considering the tampering involved and the All-Americans they paid for and put around her. Anyway, Horns are back to back champs and that's what's important 🤘 3 Quote
NBHorn64 Posted June 5 Posted June 5 12 hours ago, SuperDave0805 said: We lose some key players but with Kavan, Katie Stewart, Kayden Henry, Viv Martinez, Jaycie Nichols and Hanna Wells coming back Texas should be primed another title run next season. Just need to find a #2 pitcher and a catcher I believe we got a really pitcher transfer from Oklahoma that had to sit out a year. We should. We should be good with pitching. 2 Quote
LonghornFan4Ever Posted June 5 Posted June 5 11 minutes ago, THookem said: Gonna be fun whipping Skip's beloved Oklahoma Sooners in Dallas in four months. Quote
dentonhorn Posted June 5 Posted June 5 Cody Campbell’s finance guy “sorry , I tried to calculate the cost per softball championship but we cannot divide by zero” 4 Quote
graemakin Posted June 5 Posted June 5 55 minutes ago, THookem said: It never fails old geezer skip being the douch bag gooner that he is. F*ck U wanna be trailer park vandy grad! 🤣🖕😂 Quote
Jedi Master Bevo Posted June 5 Posted June 5 So Texas softball went through the little 12s best 3 teams to a title. ASU, Nebraska and Tech. It's safe to say they'd won that conference with their 2s and 3s. 🤘🥎 1 Quote
HookemTexas Posted June 5 Posted June 5 9 minutes ago, Jedi Master Bevo said: So Texas softball went through the little 12s best 3 teams to a title. ASU, Nebraska and Tech. It's safe to say they'd won that conference with their 2s and 3s. 🤘🥎 Nebraska is Big 10. But point stands considering Texas threw their #2 and #3 pitcher in game two. 1 Quote
dentonhorn Posted June 5 Posted June 5 Well, got big plans to settle in with some good bbq for game 3 tonight. Oh crap, well, I think the BBQ will have to do . Quote
f1revo Posted June 5 Posted June 5 2 hours ago, Ace Recruiter said: IMO, she didn't do anything more than those other pitchers mentioned above. She obviously contributed, but so did many others. She benefited financially from Cody and friends trying to buy their spot as a top tier athelic department and good for her. To say that she took a bunch of nobodies to the title game is a stretch considering the tampering involved and the All-Americans they paid for and put around her. Anyway, Horns are back to back champs and that's what's important 🤘 That Mia Williams is damn good. Teagan still rang her up 3 times. No intentional walks, hah! 1 Quote
ClubWhatever Posted June 5 Posted June 5 4 hours ago, HonkEm said: The ball being bigger doesn’t magically slow time down, and ‘less distance to curve’ doesn’t make it easier to hit - unless we’re just making up physics now.” The ball being bigger unquestionably makes it easier to hit. Do you think a bowling ball is not easier to make contact with than a bb, at equal speed? A straight 97 mph fastball is easier to hit than an 87 mph slider with high spin rate. Anyone who watches baseball knows this. You have more reaction time with the slider but it’s moving away from your bat during that extra time so it’s harder to hit. You cannot survive in MLB throwing nothing but straight 97 mph fastballs. You have to sacrifice reaction time for movement. Quote
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