Locking Horns

[Deep in the heart]

This is an awesome feature and I think y'all need to bring it to the board. I think I agreed with @CJ Vogel on his points on 2 and 3. But I think it would be a great feature to bring to the board to let us chime in.

[CJ Vogel]

I love the concept of this show and I hope you guys all enjoy it as well!

I will attach the questions we debated this week down below. Make sure to tune in this week as well!

[CJ Vogel]

Topics from this week's Locking Horns:

1. Grade Arch Manning's performance against Ohio State from 1–10 (10 being best).

2. What is the biggest trap game remaining on the Texas schedule?

3. What is the biggest red flag to come out of the win over Ohio State? What is something you saw that you are afraid might bite Texas when they play one of the other top opponents on their schedule?

[CJ Vogel]

 

[Hookem72]

11 minutes ago, CJ Vogel said:

Topics from this week's Locking Horns:

1. Grade Arch Manning's performance against Ohio State from 1–10 (10 being best).

2. What is the biggest trap game remaining on the Texas schedule?

3. What is the biggest red flag to come out of the win over Ohio State? What is something you saw that you are afraid might bite Texas when they play one of the other top opponents on their schedule?

1.  At half 3, 4th quarter 10. Overall 8

2.  Mississippi State 

3.  Turnovers

[Alex Butler]

1 minute ago, Hookem72 said:

1.  At half 3, 4th quarter 10. Overall 8

2.  Mississippi State 

3.  Turnovers

1.  First half 6 second half 9 overall 8. 
2.  Mizzou

3.  Ball security and drops

[nineliveslost]

1. 6.5 too many overthrows and the self-sack 

2. LSU

3. Dropped passes 

 

[Deep in the heart]

31 minutes ago, CJ Vogel said:

I love the concept of this show and I hope you guys all enjoy it as well!

I will attach the questions we debated this week down below. Make sure to tune in this week as well!

I love it man. You and Bobby get after it!

[Deep in the heart]

1. I think a 7 overall. 4th was 10 right. I saw the same missed yards to Mosley as well but Arch didn't get a lot of help from his receivers. 

2. OU. I had this as a loss already and now I think this will be their Superbowl.

3. The first half start. Regardless if Raleek had the ball in the inside or out, the blocking got blown up. Cam was wide open and yes he should've caught that ball but it wasn't a TD because he had to dive for it. Arch has to put it in him. The drops were mental. I think the team is playing emotional and not with emotion the first half until Sark calms them down. Why is that? It happens every big game no matter which player causes it. We have to fix that.

Edited 6 hours ago by Deep in the heart

[Califashorn75]

I am not worried about OU. LSU and Tennessee worry me. 

[DanielOnorato]

52 minutes ago, CJ Vogel said:

Topics from this week's Locking Horns:

1. Grade Arch Manning's performance against Ohio State from 1–10 (10 being best).

2. What is the biggest trap game remaining on the Texas schedule?

3. What is the biggest red flag to come out of the win over Ohio State? What is something you saw that you are afraid might bite Texas when they play one of the other top opponents on their schedule?

I have Arch at an 8.5 - he left some meat on the bone but he was absolutely lights out when you needed him to be against the #1 team in the nation. If they hadn't dropped the ball I think he'd have gone for 300 yards 3 TDS and 0 int but of course crisis precipitated change. Due to the mistakes by his supporting cast he had to be more of a game manager and what we thought may have been a weakness a year ago certainly looked like a strength.

Biggest trap game for me is at Tennessee. Texas has been very solid at home. We saw a lapse in a similar position last year at Florida. You cannot underestimate a freshman QB. Texas fans including myself were thinking DJ Lagway (Lagwe)has not looked good and he has a bum ankle. He set Texas on fire. It was a game of bad bounces from the start with Taaffe unable to cover a fumble that he would have 9 times out of 10. Do not take this visit lightly they will have to play disciplined football all day. 

The biggest red flag for me is ball security. Sark preached about the value of turnover differential all off-season and the importance of taking care of the pill. To come out and turn it over 2 times in the first 5 plays was a major issue. On top of that they fumbled on the goal line prior to the game winning touchdown. Special teams they muffed one. 

A second issue is punt coverage. They need to ensure they keep a player out on a gunner. Teams saw the all 22 where a gunner was left bare ass on Saturday night for Ohio State where if they had balls like Kirby Smart they would have made Texas pay. As well as Texas played in the second half, and I believe had they converted in the first half on plays they normally will, they would have won the game by 10 plus points but they were also against a very predictable Arthur Smith. Complementary football is going to be crucial for any championship contender and Jeff Banks needs to ensure that there are no fake punt conversions against Texas this season. 

Edited 6 hours ago by DanielOnorato

[Bunk Moreland]

I’m a bit baffled by the discussion on the first question. CJ nailed it. Whatever the circumstances (and receiver drops certainly played a MAJOR role), Arch had a pass efficiency rating of 110. That’s really bad. I don’t care that it was against Ohio State—it wasn’t good enough. I don’t think it’s outrageous to give Arch a huge amount of credit for his 4Q performance and leading the comeback while saying that to do so he had to overcome a “C” performance. You can’t just look at how the game ended to assess his overall body of work. Give him a bonus for how he ended it, sure. But to me that boosts him to, say, a 7 or 7.5. 

[ThatHornsGuy87]

Bobby would have made a great lawyer or politician 🤣

[JCrofford]

14 minutes ago, Bunk Moreland said:

I’m a bit baffled by the discussion on the first question. CJ nailed it. Whatever the circumstances (and receiver drops certainly played a MAJOR role), Arch had a pass efficiency rating of 110. That’s really bad. I don’t care that it was against Ohio State—it wasn’t good enough. I don’t think it’s outrageous to give Arch a huge amount of credit for his 4Q performance and leading the comeback while saying that to do so he had to overcome a “C” performance. You can’t just look at how the game ended to assess his overall body of work. Give him a bonus for how he ended it, sure. But to me that boosts him to, say, a 7 or 7.5. 

I agree. Arch ended the game with an incredible quarter of football, but the 1st half was rough. Did he have some great throws here and there, sure, but he also missed (didn't see, or didn't pull the trigger) on way too many plays. When he starts playing consistent ball, this team will be scary.

[f1revo]

It's still unbelievable to me that we didn't take a safety in the portal. Just a brutal roster management mistake there. They let guys who have played a lot of quality snaps for us at other position groups walk this off-season in order to upgrade their positions and then just didn't bother with safety for some reason when we only returned one quality player.

[BurntOrangeMD]

1. A., 6 in the first three quarters. Overthrows and the Self-sack. Get rid of the ball!  ...said half the world. And when you take off running, don't take the hit; get down. 

1. B., 10 in the fourth quarter. 4th and 9, and 4th and 6. If it wasn't for the miscues, the score could easily have been 37 to 20.

2. Florida

3. Early nerves, forced fumbles, and dropped passes. Shout-out to Cam Coleman and Kade Phillips for being at the right place at the right time.

4. There were so many unfortunate situations in the first three quarters. The missed field goal in the fourth quarter helped to balance it out. 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by BurntOrangeMD

[DanielOnorato]

Arch Manning is the best player in America. Watch.