horns96 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Jordan91 said: He’s an extremely knowledgeable poster. He does volleyball game threads here on his own. Nobody asks him to do that. He started the game thread here probably because he thought there would not be one. Really good guy. whoa, whoa, whoa! Experimental literature and garden path sentences and facility with legalese is high compliment from my perspective. I'm a @bierce fan going back to IT and maybe even 247. Y'all have a great night, see you on the next basketball thread🤘 Edited January 8 by horns96 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan91 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 27 minutes ago, TexasFanatic said: Was the kid a bad kid at the time of recruitment?? Likely not. That’s not on Oates. There is a lot more to this just saying… Well Oates recruited a kid who became a bad apple. Sark recruited that Keithron Lee kid while at Texas… he had an armed robbery im pretty sure. Is he bad? UT lets in kids to the University who end up doing bad things. Is the university bad? The Oates thing doesn’t seem to be a recurring issue so it’s a non issue. Money is not an issue right now. More money than ever is flowing in and the anthletic department is making 15 ish million off the playoffs right now. You think Nate Oats leaves a rabid fan base that travels, solid recruiting, huge NIL and a completely supportive donor base to come here. They will match any raise to keep him. So he leaves everything he has to come to virtually no fan base, a budgeted NIL a fractured donor base to come here? And have to face Alabama every year. You’re thinking Texas can just throw money and people come running. That’s football not basketball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan91 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 6 minutes ago, bierce said: Damn it. I spent a large part of my career telling court reporters to stop spreading rumors that I was a nice guy because other lawyers would try to take advantage of me. Now I have to fight the same fight here? We could discuss your sabbatical on some boat that you jumped off of right before the basketball season started a few years back. That’s probably worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan91 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 3 minutes ago, horns96 said: whoa, whoa, whoa! Experimental literature and garden path sentences and facility with legalese is high compliment from my perspective. I'm a @bierce fan going back to IT and maybe even 247. Y'all have a great night, see you on the next basketball thread🤘 I am on the road home. Thanks for the update. He followed me from 247, to IT and now here. He just won’t admit it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasFanatic Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 3 minutes ago, Jordan91 said: You think Nate Oats leaves a rabid fan base that travels, solid recruiting, huge NIL and a completely supportive donor base to come here. They will match any raise to keep him. So he leaves everything he has to come to virtually no fan base, a budgeted NIL a fractured donor base to come here? And have to face Alabama every year. You’re thinking Texas can just throw money and people come running. That’s football not basketball. Texas did for baseball… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AusMOJO Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 I'm hesitant to post anything about Basketball (as I'm still learning and trying to figure things out) but it does appear we are not good this year. People thought we wouldn't be "SEC ready" in Football, turns out that might've been Basketball. I assume CDC will keep an eye on things, see how Coach Terry continues to do. But he's not had a great go of it so far this year, from the eye ball test. Where is it he's coming up short or needs to do better, to keep his job? Does CDC look for options if this year goes poorly? Let Coach Terry's contract run out? The question after all that, is who do you hire? Does Texas have the pulling power in Basketball that it does in Football or Baseball? Seems like it does not. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashtag Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 (edited) 8 hours ago, Jordan91 said: You think Nate Oats leaves a rabid fan base that travels, solid recruiting, huge NIL and a completely supportive donor base to come here. They will match any raise to keep him. Except Bama doesn’t have huge NIL and they have a donor base that is struggling to keep up in this era of college athletics. Their AD begging for money publicly should have told you that. With that said if we were to poach him he carries a buyout after this season somewhere north of 10 million. Edited January 8 by Hashtag 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Gerry Hamilton Posted January 8 Moderators Share Posted January 8 Average winning score in the 5 SEC games last night ... 80.2. This is extremely elite offensive basketball teams/talent in the conference this year. Seth Greenberg said earlier in the week ... best the SEC has ever been. I agree with that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkates Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Well, that was a frustrating watch. No fight until it was too late, then grit enough to make it close, then bungled clock/game management that probably didn't matter anyway. The Rodney Terry Era! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan91 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 9 hours ago, TexasFanatic said: Texas did for baseball… I always tell Aggies thanks for the coach when they say something to me. Two things have been true since my dad took me to my first Longhorn game. Football is king and baseball is good. Baseball is supported. It always has been. Not the same for basketball. Basketball has always been entertainment when football ends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan91 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 4 hours ago, AusMOJO said: I'm hesitant to post anything about Basketball (as I'm still learning and trying to figure things out) but it does appear we are not good this year. People thought we wouldn't be "SEC ready" in Football, turns out that might've been Basketball. I assume CDC will keep an eye on things, see how Coach Terry continues to do. But he's not had a great go of it so far this year, from the eye ball test. Where is it he's coming up short or needs to do better, to keep his job? Does CDC look for options if this year goes poorly? Let Coach Terry's contract run out? The question after all that, is who do you hire? Does Texas have the pulling power in Basketball that it does in Football or Baseball? Seems like it does not. Man don’t be hesitant to post. More basketball discussion doesn’t hurt. My opinion is Texas can always offer top dollar for coaches. With basketball I don’t see a splash hire out there now. One that will actually come. Just my opinion though. Others disagree. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan91 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 hour ago, Hashtag said: Except Bama doesn’t have huge NIL and they have a donor base that is struggling to keep up in this era of college athletics. Their AD begging for money publicly should have told you that. With that said if we were to poach him he carries a buyout after this season somewhere north of 10 million. I wouldn’t say they are struggling for football money. It’s more of a pride thing. They believe their name trumps money. Interesting that they start to struggle after paying a kid is legal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashtag Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Jordan91 said: I wouldn’t say they are struggling for football money. It’s more of a pride thing. They believe their name trumps money. Interesting that they start to struggle after paying a kid is legal. No they are really struggling to keep up. Saban's discount has gone away...their 2025 class was their last ditch effort. They can't keep up with retention, portal, and HS. 2026 moving forward will be interesting for them to say the very least. Above table payments are far greater than bag payments....You could get 3-4 guys for 400-500k that were on the higher end with bags. Now you're looking at 1-2 guys for that. Edited January 8 by Hashtag 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan91 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 minute ago, Hashtag said: No they are really struggling to keep up. Saban's discount has gone away...their 2025 class was their last ditch effort. They can't keep up with retention, portal, and HS. 2026 moving forward will be interesting for them to say the very least. Appreciate the heads up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan91 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 @Gerry Hamilton when football is over I think the board would appreciate your analysis of the season. What exactly is wrong, whether it’s the school, NIL donors(BMDs), the coach or all of the above? What players aren’t what you thought they were. What needs to happen for Texas to truly get back to Barnes glory days? And yeah status of the coach. Thanks in advance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Carter Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 RT is a great human as was Charlie Strong, but was an emotional hire. His only good season has and will be Beard's team and system. Beard commanded his team and had the energy to lead and had RT in the background to be the glue, calm voice opposing his brash and direct style. Hoping we find something moving forward but this feels like the Penders years all over again. He was a good coach but not great. Given the athletic department's current place in the world - UT should have a great coach! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texcoyote15 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 30 minutes ago, Jordan91 said: @Gerry Hamilton when football is over I think the board would appreciate your analysis of the season. What exactly is wrong, whether it’s the school, NIL donors(BMDs), the coach or all of the above? What players aren’t what you thought they were. What needs to happen for Texas to truly get back to Barnes glory days? And yeah status of the coach. Thanks in advance. Yeah Gerry weigh in 😃😃. Seriously your basketball takes are really great. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATX16 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Had RT lost one or two games earlier in his intern NCAA tournament run I believe we have a different coach right now. Just my opinion but I summize the decision to keep RT had a political slant more so than emotional given the campus environment at the time. No way does his resume come out on top of a full scale, clean slate coaching search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Leininger Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 This is going to be a really bad season. This team, while talented, does not play as a team. Everything is 1 on 1. No off ball movement and trying to create better shots for teammates. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan91 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 4 hours ago, Neil Leininger said: This is going to be a really bad season. This team, while talented, does not play as a team. Everything is 1 on 1. No off ball movement and trying to create better shots for teammates. No point guard to create that ball movement. Unless Larry has another gear we haven’t seen yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan91 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 5 hours ago, Brian Carter said: RT is a great human as was Charlie Strong, but was an emotional hire. His only good season has and will be Beard's team and system. Beard commanded his team and had the energy to lead and had RT in the background to be the glue, calm voice opposing his brash and direct style. Hoping we find something moving forward but this feels like the Penders years all over again. He was a good coach but not great. Given the athletic department's current place in the world - UT should have a great coach! Penders year weren’t all bad, it ended bad ,but resulted in Rick Barnes being hired. That may be the first time anyone has said that. Clearly both had a chemistry together. Honestly though all those that hate RT should point it towards Beard. Beard actions resulted in the hiring of RT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan91 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 4 hours ago, ATX16 said: Had RT lost one or two games earlier in his intern NCAA tournament run I believe we have a different coach right now. Just my opinion but I summize the decision to keep RT had a political slant more so than emotional given the campus environment at the time. No way does his resume come out on top of a full scale, clean slate coaching search. Why would CDC bow to a political slant? Who forced him to hire RT? Please give some names we can verify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HookemTexas Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 8 minutes ago, Jordan91 said: Why would CDC bow to a political slant? Who forced him to hire RT? Please give some names we can verify. At one of the pep rally events they had in Houston, all the coaches in attendance basically said they all pushed CDC to hire terry. It's not that CDC could be pressured into a decision, but he plays the long game, it could have been possible that was not a battle he felt was at the right time to take on. Most of cdc's moves have worked with a timeline that was beneficial to everyone, usually at the end of a contract without renewal. He hasn't really fired anyone except beard I think and that was due to circumstances outside of performance of the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATX16 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 47 minutes ago, Jordan91 said: Why would CDC bow to a political slant? Who forced him to hire RT? Please give some names we can verify. Sorry, I dont have specific names. But we were just coming off the lengthy ordeal of managing the Eyes of Texas controversy and I think the ramifications of NOT hiring RT was a factor that was considered. Very good man, OK coach. I just dont think his resume fits the mold of CDC's past hires here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan91 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 hour ago, ATX16 said: Sorry, I dont have specific names. But we were just coming off the lengthy ordeal of managing the Eyes of Texas controversy and I think the ramifications of NOT hiring RT was a factor that was considered. Very good man, OK coach. I just dont think his resume fits the mold of CDC's past hires here. It doesn’t as a straight up hire. It does in the unique situation they were in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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