Mack Brown / interview

[THookem]

 

[Austalgia]

This is good, thank you. 

[GetHooked]

He always interviews well but I'm still glad he's gone.

[Hashtag]

9 hours ago, GetHooked said:

He always interviews well but I'm still glad he's gone.

Says all the right things on camera but tried to burn the program down in his way out. 

[Jack Lala]

6 minutes ago, Hashtag said:

Says all the right things on camera but tried to burn the program down in his way out. 

I've always felt Mack lost his sense of purpose when Colt got hurt against bama. He never got it back the next 4 years. 

[qaertyisthatdude]

6 minutes ago, Jack Lala said:

I've always felt Mack lost his sense of purpose when Colt got hurt against bama. He never got it back the next 4 years. 

And some fans give the second best HC in Texas football history the Nico Harrison treatment because of that.  I was sad to see it end the way it did, but you can never make me hate the man.  He’s a big reason I became a Longhorn fan.

Edited Wednesday at 11:59 AM by qaertyisthatdude

[GetHooked]

9 minutes ago, Hashtag said:

Says all the right things on camera but tried to burn the program down in his way out. 

I thought he was self-centered and selfish at the end of his tenure.  He brought us a natty (mostly Vince) and then Colt got hurt on his 2nd try.  After that, it felt like he was phoning it in his last 4 years here.  I didn't miss him when he finally left and I don't miss him now.

[Bobbers]

Mack did not try to burn the program down.

He DID burn the program down. 

He also recruited arguably the greatest CFB in history.  He was very influential.  I am glad for 2005, but I would not trust Mack Brown in a business deal.  He is a snake oil salesman that win it all once.

[GDI]

Just because one doesn't particularly care for the coaching job he did the last few years of his career or how he handled recruits on his way out doesn't mean you hate him.  

Edited Wednesday at 01:35 PM by GDI

[Oldest Horn]

17 minutes ago, Bobbers said:

Mack did not try to burn the program down.

He DID burn the program down. 

He also recruited arguably the greatest CFB in history.  He was very influential.  I am glad for 2005, but I would not trust Mack Brown in a business deal.  He is a snake oil salesman that win it all once.

Curious how you’d rank our head coaches over the last 80 years. 

[Hashtag]

10 minutes ago, Oldest Horn said:

Curious how you’d rank our head coaches over the last 80 years. 

1 Royal
2 Mack
3 Akers
4 Sark?
5 Bible if we're going exactly 80 years lol

 

Top 3 are set, for now until Sark potentially wins a title. Some bad luck for Akers cost him the #2 spot IMO. 

Edited Wednesday at 01:59 PM by Hashtag

[ATX16]

All of these opinions of Mack can be true at the same time. 

[Austalgia]

He’s not coming back to coach, so just chill.  Why can’t you guys just be gracious to the 70 or so year old man who did a lot for this university.  His former football players have much more invested in this university than any of you, and they don’t hate.  They respect the man.  

Edited Wednesday at 03:17 PM by Austalgia

[jkates]

3 hours ago, GetHooked said:

I thought he was self-centered and selfish. 

Show me a successful NCAA football coach who is not these things. Even the beloved DKR could be described this way by some.

[Bobby_Batronic]

3 hours ago, Jack Lala said:

I've always felt Mack lost his sense of purpose when Colt got hurt against bama. He never got it back the next 4 years. 

I think the injury to Colt in the MNC game knocked Mack’s antenna off and he lost his way. He completely abandoned what he had built his program to be, and, while know what was wrong, seemed to lose the ability to lead it in the right direction again. And then he lost his head when the inevitable was clear. 

[HelloThere]

Still hilarious to me that everyone blames Mack for “burning the program down” when Steve Patterson is the one who truly burnt the program and athletic department down. 
 

Mack did not go out right, all agree with that, but he went 8-5, 9-4 and 8-5 his last three years. Definitely not good, but still better than he found it after a legendary run. Considerably better than the next several years after he left. 
 

He also gets the blame for Nick Saban not coming, which he had a part, but Nick Saban was not coming here to work for Steve Patterson. Zero chance. 

[GetHooked]

18 minutes ago, jkates said:

Show me a successful NCAA football coach who is not these things. Even the beloved DKR could be described this way by some.

That's fair.  And that wouldn't have bothered me if I didn't feel like he was phoning it in for the last 4 years.  

[TexasMDcoach]

Mack will always be a legendary coach at Texas, behind DKR though for sure.  Our present coach may push these two though before it's all said and done.

[jkates]

2 hours ago, GetHooked said:

That's fair.  And that wouldn't have bothered me if I didn't feel like he was phoning it in for the last 4 years.  

The statute of limitations on still being worried about that is up. Join us in moving on. 

[GetHooked]

14 minutes ago, jkates said:

The statute of limitations on still being worried about that is up. Join us in moving on. 

Definitely moved on.  Never think about him.  When his name comes up, I immediately remember how it ended. (Not well)  I reserve the right to NOT be a fan. 

[Bobby_Batronic]

8 hours ago, HelloThere said:

Still hilarious to me that everyone blames Mack for “burning the program down” when Steve Patterson is the one who truly burnt the program and athletic department down. 
 

Mack did not go out right, all agree with that, but he went 8-5, 9-4 and 8-5 his last three years. Definitely not good, but still better than he found it after a legendary run. Considerably better than the next several years after he left. 
 

He also gets the blame for Nick Saban not coming, which he had a part, but Nick Saban was not coming here to work for Steve Patterson. Zero chance. 

Patterson, and his wildly out of touch former NBA hype agent something or other Israel were completely misaligned with the fans and collegiate sports, but Mack tried to destroy the roster on the way out and undermine his successor. 

 

Btw, I can’t remember that lady’s first name, we can thank her for jetpack man, but watching her fingerprints on the program made me consider a new meaning to the phrase “Drive Israel into the sea.” She had no idea what she was doing. 

Edited yesterday at 12:28 AM by Bobby_Batronic

[Oldest Horn]

7 minutes ago, Bobby_Batronic said:

Patterson, and his wildly out of touch former NBA hype agent something or other Israel were completely misaligned with the fans and collegiate sports, but Mack tried to destroy the roster on the way out and undermine his successor. 

 

Btw, I can’t remember that lady’s first name, we can thank her for jetpack man, but watching her fingerprints on the program made me consider a new meaning to the phrase “Drive Israel into the sea.” She had no idea what she was doing. 

How did Mack try to destroy the roster?

[Hashtag]

10 minutes ago, Oldest Horn said:

How did Mack try to destroy the roster?

Told and encouraged players on roster to go elsewhere

Told and encouraged recruits to look elsewhere that were still committed at the time

Bad mouthed the program to every potential candidate through coaching circles who would listen

Bad moved the program to his BMD friends who had his back

Bad mouthed the program to members of media off camera/off record(Hence why the narrative about Texas was created) 

Edited 23 hours ago by Hashtag

[Oldest Horn]

2 minutes ago, Hashtag said:

Told and encouraged players on roster to go elsewhere

Told and encouraged recruits to look elsewhere that were still committed at the time

Bad mouthed the program to every potential candidate through coaching circles who would listen

Bad moved the program to his BMD friends who had his back

Bad mouthed the program to members of media off camera/off record(Hence why the narrative about Texas was created) 

Who all left? I remember Charlie unloading a bunch of guys but I don’t recall any player of substance leaving or being told they should leave. I also remember him trying to recruit a Florida kid right before the infamous Red Banquet. 

[Bobby_Batronic]

2 hours ago, Oldest Horn said:

Who all left? I remember Charlie unloading a bunch of guys but I don’t recall any player of substance leaving or being told they should leave. I also remember him trying to recruit a Florida kid right before the infamous Red Banquet. 

The standard wasn’t who left. The standard was that he was actively trying to undermine the roster. 

Also, Mack out “killing himself” on the road for the Florida recruit was clearly a move to get him out of Austin and away from the heat.