Texas Sports Mount Rushmore

[Hashtag]

Saw this mentioned in another thread and it could be a good offseason thread. I'd like to hear @Bobby Burton @Jeff Howe @Blake Munroe @CJ Vogel @Gerry Hamilton opinions as well.

Lets break this into 3 categories being men, women, and coaches to start. If you want you can add your overall but I think splitting them into men's and women's makes sense and could give more recognition to the women's side of our university. Lastly coaching would be a fun and exciting to hear some different perspectives on. 

Men: Vince Young, TJ Ford, Houston Street, Ben Crenshaw

I give Vince the nod here over some of the other football players in our history because he's considered a top 5ish QB in the history of the sport and his on field performance in leading Texas to a national championship. I also give TJ the nod here because of on court performance and leading Texas to the final 4 while KD was bounced in the second round. I went Street over Clemens because of overall collegiate career accomplishments over Clemens. 
 

Women: Cat Osterman, Madisen Skinner, Clarissa Davis, Sanya Richards Ross

I think Booker could make a run for Davis depending on how the rest of her career goes.

 

Coaches: Darrell Royal, Eddie Reese, Cliff Gustafson, Jerritt Elliott

As much as I love Augie and his overall meaning to the sport of baseball I gave Cliff the nod here over him strictly based on performance at Texas. 

 

 

 

[CJ Vogel]

I like this conversation topic.

Men: Vince Young, TJ Ford, Brooks Kieschnick, Earl Campbell ... I don't like the two in one sport, but this feels necessary.

HM: Leo Neugebauer

Women: Clarissa Davis, Cat Osterman, Logan Eggleston (Just over Skinner), Reese Atwood

Coaches: Eddie Reese, Darrel Royal, Jody Conradt, Jerritt Elliott

Dave O'Niell deserves his credit for rowing as well.

[Hashtag]

23 minutes ago, CJ Vogel said:

I like this conversation topic.

Men: Vince Young, TJ Ford, Brooks Kieschnick, Earl Campbell ... I don't like the two in one sport, but this feels necessary.

HM: Leo Neugebauer

Women: Clarissa Davis, Cat Osterman, Logan Eggleston (Just over Skinner), Reese Atwood

Coaches: Eddie Reese, Darrel Royal, Jody Conradt, Jerritt Elliott

Dave O'Niell deserves his credit for rowing as well.

I completely agree with trying to avoid two from same sport. Good call on Brooks my brain went derp on that one and he should be there instead of Street. I said in the live stream this morning that with her current career path and a potential national championship that TK could replace Cat as the GOAT for Texas Softball. She will never reach Cat's strikeouts but the game is far far different and offense is far far better during TK's era than Cats. 

 

Jody is a good call to get a woman on the Mount Rushmore for coaches and love that pick from you!

 

[CJ Vogel]

2 minutes ago, Hashtag said:

I completely agree with trying to avoid two from same sport. Good call on Brooks my brain went derp on that one and he should be there instead of Street. I said in the live stream this morning that with her current career path and a potential national championship that TK could replace Cat as the GOAT for Texas Softball. She will never reach Cat's strikeouts but the game is far far different and offense is far far better during TK's era than Cats. 

 

Jody is a good call to get a woman on the Mount Rushmore for coaches and love that pick from you!

 

It's a real fun conversation and with as many legends Texas has produced in a wide variety of sports, hard to pinpoint exactly four.

Kavan is going to finish with one of the more decorated careers in Texas Softball history if they finish the series out against Texas Tech.

[georgethepunter]

Love it. 

[Shane]

3 hours ago, Hashtag said:

Saw this mentioned in another thread and it could be a good offseason thread. I'd like to hear @Bobby Burton @Jeff Howe @Blake Munroe @CJ Vogel @Gerry Hamilton opinions as well.

Lets break this into 3 categories being men, women, and coaches to start. If you want you can add your overall but I think splitting them into men's and women's makes sense and could give more recognition to the women's side of our university. Lastly coaching would be a fun and exciting to hear some different perspectives on. 

Men: Vince Young, TJ Ford, Houston Street, Ben Crenshaw

I give Vince the nod here over some of the other football players in our history because he's considered a top 5ish QB in the history of the sport and his on field performance in leading Texas to a national championship. I also give TJ the nod here because of on court performance and leading Texas to the final 4 while KD was bounced in the second round. I went Street over Clemens because of overall collegiate career accomplishments over Clemens. 
 

Women: Cat Osterman, Madisen Skinner, Clarissa Davis, Sanya Richards Ross

I think Booker could make a run for Davis depending on how the rest of her career goes.

 

Coaches: Darrell Royal, Eddie Reese, Cliff Gustafson, Jerritt Elliott

As much as I love Augie and his overall meaning to the sport of baseball I gave Cliff the nod here over him strictly based on performance at Texas. 

 

 

 

Think you nailed it ! 

[Paul Jespersen]

Great list - so many greats...

I love Vince, and he is probably the right answer, but I'm w/ CJ - you can't leave Earl off any list for Texas football. 1a and 1b in my mind. The NC and undefeated season give VY the slight edge, but Earl remains my favorite player all time. 

🤘

Edited June 5 by Paul Jespersen

[harveycmd]

Probably in the minority. Don't think Vince is really very close to the greatest Longhorn football player. Earl is the only Longhorn who was the best football player in the world at some point. He's the greatest. James Street is next in terms of winning and championships. Probably thirty or more better than Vince in the NFL. Vince was the best player on the last National Championship team. Doesn't make him better than other Longhorns who performed better in the long term. 

[Hashtag]

2 hours ago, harveycmd said:

Probably in the minority. Don't think Vince is really very close to the greatest Longhorn football player. Earl is the only Longhorn who was the best football player in the world at some point. He's the greatest. James Street is next in terms of winning and championships. Probably thirty or more better than Vince in the NFL. Vince was the best player on the last National Championship team. Doesn't make him better than other Longhorns who performed better in the long term. 

This isn't about NFL or pro careers, this is about at Texas.

[harveycmd]

7 minutes ago, Hashtag said:

This isn't about NFL or pro careers, this is about at Texas.

I understand that. Vince Texas career wasn't better than Earl or James.

[Hashtag]

Just now, harveycmd said:

I understand that. Vince Texas career wasn't better than Earl or James.

Vince is better than James, Earl I could agree.

[harveycmd]

James won multiple titles. Earl just flat better. 

[Hashtag]

4 minutes ago, harveycmd said:

James won multiple titles. Earl just flat better. 

James only won 1 title as a starter.

[Burnt Orange Horn]

James Street 20 - 0 as a football starter. Duke Carlisle was 11 - 0 in the same role. Both won Natties.

The problem with Mt. Rushmore is there are only four faces.

Edited 5 hours ago by Burnt Orange Horn

[HookemTexas]

James was also undefeated for his entire career in football and was a 2 sport star, also has the only perfect game thrown in baseball's history.

[harveycmd]

James Street from Longview. Earl Campbell from Tyler, TX. Throw in Pat Mahomes from Tyler.  No other region can compete with that.

[harveycmd]

James Street is probably the greatest all around athlete to play at Texas. 

[HookemTexas]

Just now, harveycmd said:

James Street is probably the greatest all around athlete to play at Texas. 

You could also throw in his offspring was also a star at Texas, although Clemens did the same thing on that front so not unique.

[Hashtag]

1 minute ago, harveycmd said:

James Street is probably the greatest all around athlete to play at Texas. 

Bobby Layne

[THookem]

Burt Hooton

[harveycmd]

Eye test counts here some. Eye says Vince better than James Street. Vince didn't win more than James. Earl eye test says he was clearly the best. 

[Bobby Burton]

DKR - Earl - Vince - Nobis

Earl - Clemens - Durant - Scheffler (he will be there soon enough)

**

C Davis - Eggleston - Conradt - Richards-Ross

 

[harveycmd]

Bobby got it right. Earl was the best football player in the world from 1979-1981 . Durant best basketball player in the world from 2015-2019. Scheffler best golfer in the world from 2023-. Could argue Clemens was the best baseball player in the world at some point.

Edited 4 hours ago by harveycmd

[Hashtag]

11 minutes ago, harveycmd said:

Bobby got it right. Earl was the best football player in the world from 1979-1981 . Durant best basketball player in the world from 2015-2019. Scheffler best golfer in the world from 2023-. Could argue Clemens was the best baseball player in the world at some point.

What does 2015-2019 have to do with Durant at Texas? TJ Ford is more significant in Texas basketball than Kevin Durant. 

 

Crenshaw was better at Texas than Scheffler.

Edited 4 hours ago by Hashtag

[harveycmd]

Said it before, Think Arch will be the best football player in the world for a long while within three years. Means we need two natty's with  him.

1 minute ago, Hashtag said:

What does 2015-2019 have to do with Durant at Texas? TJ Ford is more significant in Texas basketball than Kevin Durant. 

Durant played at Texas. Nothing more than that. But that's a lot.