Speed…

[pinkman_90]

where is it on offense?  We are slow compared to other top teams.  I am much less worried about Arch than I am about not having many playmakers around him in a league that requires it to win a championship.  
 

- Our RBs are tough but nothing dangerous.  

- WR?  Nobody to keep you up at night.  Wingo is supposed to be fast but he’s more theoretical than real until he shows it.  

- Return game?  I think we had our two slower RBs returning kicks and Niblett for punts who’s supposed to be fast but that needs to show on the field.  

[LonghornFan4Ever]

1 minute ago, pinkman_90 said:

where is it on offense?  We are slow compared to other top teams.  I am much less worried about Arch than I am about not having many playmakers around him in a league that requires it to win a championship.  
 

- Our RBs are tough but nothing dangerous.  

- WR?  Nobody to keep you up at night.  Wingo is supposed to be fast but he’s more theoretical than real until he shows it.  

- Return game?  I think we had our two slower RBs returning kicks and Niblett for punts who’s supposed to be fast but that needs to show on the field.  

I get what you’re saying, but who on 2023 Michigan’s offense had game breaking speed?

[DanielOnorato]

I don't think Texas speed is the problem, its getting guys the ball on time in stride so they can make a play after the catch to utilize it. Arch inaccuracy many times cost playmakers their ability to run in space. I cant recall one player getting a ball in stride to run after the catch in space. 

Wingo and Livingstone can fly and Endries showed good speed and burst on his sideline downfield grab. Deandre Moore has good wheels also. Its more the lack of utilization of speed in week 1 that was concerning.  If they were dropping in cover 3 zones I wouldn't have been against a few more reverses for Wingo or screens. However, even the screen pass from Arch was a skipping rock unfortunately.

Edited 14 hours ago by DanielOnorato

[pinkman_90]

14 minutes ago, LonghornFan4Ever said:

I get what you’re saying, but who on 2023 Michigan’s offense had game breaking speed?

[pinkman_90]

6 minutes ago, DanielOnorato said:

I don't think Texas speed is the problem, its getting guys the ball on time in stride so they can make a play after the catch to utilize it. Arch inaccuracy many times cost playmakers their ability to run in space. I cant recall one player getting a ball in stride to run after the catch in space. 

Wingo and Livingstone can fly and Endries showed good speed and burst on his sideline downfield grab. Deandre Moore has good wheels also. It’s more the lack of utilization of speed in week 1 that was concerning.  If they were dropping in cover 3 zones I wouldn't have been against a few more reverses for Wingo or screens. However, even the screen pass from Arch was a skipping rock unfortunately.

Wasn’t just a concern from week 1.  A lot of us had this concern all offseason and wanted another playmaker or two to be brought in via the portal.  We got Mosley but who knows if he’ll ever play and he’s more a possession guy.  

[DanielOnorato]

4 minutes ago, pinkman_90 said:

Wasn’t just a concern from week 1.  A lot of us had this concern all offseason and wanted another playmaker or two to be brought in via the portal.  We got Mosley but who knows if he’ll ever play and he’s more a possession guy.  

I'm not convinced Ohio State has a faster offense than Texas, and if they do its a small advantage at best. 

I'd put Texas speed towards the top of the entire country. Wingo, Moore, Livingstone, Butler all most likely in 4.4 range. Arch has some tremendous wheels as does Nick Townsend. In my opinion its more frustrating that we didn't see the speed because of lack of execution. Against zone coverages a lot is sitting down and finding gaps. Wingo and Arch need to figure it out by Gainesville.

Not sure of Wisners top end speed but he doesn't look slow to me and Baxter should get faster and faster. Pre injury he had some jets. 

I'd have loved Zechariah Branch but hopefully some of the freshman step up. It hurts to say it, but a head on straight Johntay Cook would be getting some big playing time this season.

[HDub1995]

I’ve been asking this question. I don’t think there are game changers on this offense. I will wait for it to play out but I don’t believe a trio of Wingo, Moore, and Livingstone is going to be good enough (add Mosley to that if he gets healthy).
 

Always disagreed with the decision to go after guys who had more size and less speed this year. Get why we did it, but personally didn’t like it when there were so many explosive options in the portal. We’ll see how it goes. 

[NothinButDaHorns34]

2 minutes ago, DanielOnorato said:

I'm not convinced Ohio State has a faster offense than Texas, and if they do its a small advantage at best. 

I'd put Texas speed towards the top of the entire country. Wingo, Moore, Livingstone, Butler all most likely in 4.4 range. Arch has some tremendous wheels as does Nick Townsend. In my opinion its more frustrating that we didn't see the speed because of lack of execution. Against zone coverages a lot is sitting down and finding gaps. Wingo and Arch need to figure it out by Gainesville.

Not sure of Wisners top end speed but he doesn't look slow to me and Baxter should get faster and faster. Pre injury he had some jets. 

I'd have loved Zechariah Branch but hopefully some of the freshman step up. It hurts to say it, but a head on straight Johntay Cook would be getting some big playing time this season.

I think missing out on Eric Singleton to auburn hurt. Johntay isn’t a burner and zachariah is more of a gimmick player. Jet sweeps, screens, special teams and so on. Not really a complete wide receiver who’ll make a difference. 

[CoachBobbyFinstock]

Wingo looked pretty fast 

[drag worm]

Definitely agree on kick and punt returner. That’s the best a program with Texas and its NIL war chest can do at those positions? We should have Peter Warwick 2.0 out there. 

[Sundancekid]

Our defense played pretty damn well.

[marathon]

2 hours ago, pinkman_90 said:

Wasn’t just a concern from week 1.  A lot of us had this concern all offseason and wanted another playmaker or two to be brought in via the portal.  We got Mosley but who knows if he’ll ever play and he’s more a possession guy.  

Agree, we have no one that can what Blue did on this run.

 

 

[Ace_Rothstein]

2 hours ago, pinkman_90 said:

Wasn’t just a concern from week 1.  A lot of us had this concern all offseason and wanted another playmaker or two to be brought in via the portal.  We got Mosley but who knows if he’ll ever play and he’s more a possession guy.  

Texas has one of the fastest teams in the country. 
 

We have at least 6-7 skill players on offense that will run sub 4.5 when they eventually hit the combine over the next 2-3 draft cycles 

 

[Hookem72]

The problem is our offense doesnt look or feel explosive.  Tommy Castleanos looked like he was shot outta a cannon in his game against Bama.  The Miami players all look electric in this game against ND.   We may have some players who can run fast 40 times, but it doesnt seem like they show up in big games against UGA.   If I was a 5 star receiver I just dont know if I would pick Texas.  

[Traves]

I agree…I wasn’t overly impressed with the speed/game breaking ability of our offense. I wish we would go break the bank for Jalen Lott because he is the type of prospect we are missing.

[Hashtag]

3 minutes ago, Traves said:

I agree…I wasn’t overly impressed with the speed/game breaking ability of our offense. I wish we would go break the bank for Jalen Lott because he is the type of prospect we are missing.

Nah....he's not that type of receiver IMO. 

[GQ03]

8 hours ago, Hookem72 said:

The problem is our offense doesnt look or feel explosive.  Tommy Castleanos looked like he was shot outta a cannon in his game against Bama.  The Miami players all look electric in this game against ND.   We may have some players who can run fast 40 times, but it doesnt seem like they show up in big games against UGA.   If I was a 5 star receiver I just dont know if I would pick Texas.  

This is what we call an overreaction. How quickly do we forget what Xavier Worthy, Adonai Mitchell, Matthew Golden, and a healthy Isaiah Bond looked like in this offense.

[Hashtag]

1 hour ago, GQ03 said:

This is what we call an overreaction. How quickly do we forget what Xavier Worthy, Adonai Mitchell, Matthew Golden, and a healthy Isaiah Bond looked like in this offense.

Of those guys only Worthy and in limited snaps before injury bond looked explosive. No one expected AD or Golden to be as fast as they were at combine because they didn’t look explosive. 

[ClubWhatever]

Not having a gadget back who runs a 4.4 is an issue.  We’ve had Blue or Robinson to get explosives and we don’t have that this year.  We have one receiver who can strike fear in people because of his speed.  But that guy doesn’t seem to get open deep very much.   Who on this offense scares a DC?  Who do you have to gameplan for?