Arch Not Seeing Field in Picture Format

[Neil Leininger]

8 hours ago, HookemTexas said:

This brings up an interesting discussion - last year many people (myself included) complained that Quinn would throw the checkdown too early in a play.  Did Quinn read no opening down field that quickly and throw the checkdown to take the for sure easy completion, is Arch waiting on the downfield too long and thus the checkdown is no longer open/easy?  It's probably a mixture of both.

Whatever it is, Sark, Arch and company need to figure it out because after last week, there's no more grace period.  It's pretty much win or go home from here on out unless some of the other teams lose some unexpected games.

Given that Ewers was also awful at reading defenses I would say no, he didn't recognize and just got the ball out quick to the check down. Which brings up at interesting point about what is going on the QB room because we've now had 5 QBs take snaps for Texas and not a one could consistently read defenses and know where to go with the ball. What film are they studying after the games, because All 22 film studies that show up on the internet prove corrections aren't getting made.

[Tommy]

11 hours ago, Here for the Wins said:

I said Murray’s very knowledgeable.  Jesse Palmer played too.  Sark as well.  Are you saying  they are above critique?  
 

I am a nobody.  I am a dude that was converted to QB in an era in Texas when few, if any, QBs progressed to the NFL.  There were guys in this state fully capable of that but schemes and coaching didn’t dictate.  Guys like Brees had to run to Purdue.  I’m not saying I was one of those guys, but I could throw it 60 yards and at one time was pretty damn fast.   We never worked on footwork, throwing motion.  In retrospect it was a poor move to convert me for numerous reasons.  I was good enough to get some recruiting looks at a different position in spite of rarely, if ever, playing the position or system that played to my strengths.  That’s a retrospective look at it.  A brief one at that.  Since that time I’ve watched the hell out of some football, observed elements of it beyond the norm, evaluate some stats with some attempt to delve into them further, coached some youth and observed a generation grow up  in today’s game.  Personally, I’ve had an a ha moment relatively recently about this.  Largely due to this observation about a generation growing up.

 

Here is what I said and will say about UTEP.  The run-pass ratio was 71% run in the 1st quarter.  Only 4 games since the start of 2024 has it been 50% or greater.  If I remember correctly, two of those were 50%.  So which is the outlier?  This was the first game that Neto didn’t rotate.  The Oline played the entire game.  On like our first 11 first down plays, all runs but 2 passes.  On first and 2nd down to start that 1st quarter, Arch had 5 opportunities.  All were positive.  Then he missed Wingo then didn’t throw to Livingstone then missed Livingstone.  Absolutely needs to make those plays.  Beyond that it was chaos with dudes playing that I’m not sure how much they even practiced together.  Niblett got a passed defensed for heaven sakes.  The way that game played out was like no other I can recall from a play calling standpoint and a personnel standpoint.  It would also lead me to believe we prepared heavily to run the ball. We were never at risk of losing.  I don’t recall seeing Niblett playing the slot since.  Have you?  I don’t recall Clark being 5-wide and running a hitch since.  Do you?  From the QB standpoint, it’s really who cares in my book.  But you always try to learn and improve.

I said going into Florida that you wouldn’t see that gameplan.  You didn’t.  Whatever issues you felt at UTEP, they weren’t the same at UF.

Based on an educated guess on practice then how it was presented versus UTEP, that was a wasted week from a team and QB standpoint.  That was a coach choice not a QB one.  But you do have to consider Moore and Baxter injuries but still poor.

Lastly about Murray the reference to his completion percentage opens the door to plays that didn’t work exactly right.  It happens to all QBs. It is being presented that Arch is somehow infinitely worse at those things.  The discussion on those fronts is not balanced.  And again, I’d ask if a critique is saying I’m not sure what he’s looking at, shouldn’t that critique have some  discussion regarding what defense he prepared for then also what defense they’re playing?  You know since that might dictate what the QB is evaluating.  Yes, Murray says if the safety stays down, he’s looking Wingo.  What I’m saying, and sure tell me I’m completely wrong if you think so, but I’m not completely wrong anyway.  That safety bails to the middle of the field, turns his back on Wingo so to get back in the play he has to turns his hips, get back outside and outrun a guy who is likely faster.  The back end looks like cover 3, but who knows cause someone dropped off that area where Endries ran.  I’m guessing but do not know that Arch got a different look post snap than presnap then due to pressure timing was made more difficult.  Murray didn’t answer those questions but merely threw out a question himself.  But he’s the professional so I get his opinion is more respected and in turn, valuable.

 

I may put myself on ignore for the length of this post.

Great points, I've been wondering why our offense looks so different game to game. This team has not been consistent execution-wise. Let's hope it turns around this weekend. 

[Here for the Wins]

12 minutes ago, Tommy said:

Great points, I've been wondering why our offense looks so different game to game. This team has not been consistent execution-wise. Let's hope it turns around this weekend. 

Speculation on my part, but Sark was playing for a lengthy season.  So he thought that we could actually develop the run game versus UTEP that would make us stronger thru seasons end.  And that was rational.  I thought it was reported that perhaps some of the injured players could have played sooner, but Sark wanted them fresher for the long haul.  And for that game, Baxter getting hurt play 1 was big.

Think about those missed throws in the UTEP game.  I don’t ever remember the miss to Wingo run another time.  The Livingstone miss.  Haven’t noticed it otherwise.

So I do have questions about repetitions in practice to lock down some of those plays.

If you question your QBs consistency as many fans are, although I’m not certain on Sarks feelings, but believe he’s a playmaker then you should go heavier on the pass.  Then you just need 1 out of every 3 downs to hit to get that next first down.

[Tommy]

2 minutes ago, Here for the Wins said:

Speculation on my part, but Sark was playing for a lengthy season.  So he thought that we could actually develop the run game versus UTEP that would make us stronger thru seasons end.  And that was rational.  I thought it was reported that perhaps some of the injured players could have played sooner, but Sark wanted them fresher for the long haul.  And for that game, Baxter getting hurt play 1 was big.

Think about those missed throws in the UTEP game.  I don’t ever remember the miss to Wingo run another time.  The Livingstone miss.  Haven’t noticed it otherwise.

So I do have questions about repetitions in practice to lock down some of those plays.

If you question your QBs consistency as many fans are, although I’m not certain on Sarks feelings, but believe he’s a playmaker then you should go heavier on the pass.  Then you just need 1 out of every 3 downs to hit to get that next first down.

i agree. multiple times he's said how long the season is, he's expecting to play in the playoffs, he's rotating heavily on the defense, and he's said how the defense has been ahead of the offense. Losing Baxter probably bit the offense's flow in pass pro that game, even if it looked like Wisner/other RBs made up for it. Maybe he called different plays with Baxter sidelined. 

Florida may have been a misstep by the coaches, either they were looking ahead or underestimated the prep needed. Evidenced by them rotating our defense early in the first quarter, and a suspect lack of physicality. I think we can all agree that was uncharacteristic of this team, despite the proven mistakes with discipline and execution. 

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7 hours ago, Tommy said:

i agree. multiple times he's said how long the season is, he's expecting to play in the playoffs, he's rotating heavily on the defense, and he's said how the defense has been ahead of the offense. Losing Baxter probably bit the offense's flow in pass pro that game, even if it looked like Wisner/other RBs made up for it. Maybe he called different plays with Baxter sidelined. 

Florida may have been a misstep by the coaches, either they were looking ahead or underestimated the prep needed. Evidenced by them rotating our defense early in the first quarter, and a suspect lack of physicality. I think we can all agree that was uncharacteristic of this team, despite the proven mistakes with discipline and execution. 

You can prepare to play in the playoffs all you want but if you lose 3-4 games there is no playoffs so his gamble will fail. In doing so he created a less physical atmosphere and culture around the team.