Texas fan in Georgia Posted yesterday at 02:22 PM Posted yesterday at 02:22 PM This might get ugly https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/46924174/brian-kelly-lawsuit-says-lsu-claims-not-formally-terminated-coach-now-seeking-fire-cause-avoid-buyout 1 Quote
jkates Posted yesterday at 02:25 PM Posted yesterday at 02:25 PM (edited) Meh. The headlines are fun, but these things always take negotiation and settlement. The headline is more dramatic than the reality of the situation. Edited yesterday at 02:32 PM by jkates Quote
Quinncent McManning, Jr. Posted yesterday at 02:30 PM Posted yesterday at 02:30 PM (edited) Should have been fired for these dance moves honestly Edited yesterday at 02:30 PM by Quinncent McManning, Jr. 1 7 Quote
SchoolColors Posted yesterday at 04:11 PM Posted yesterday at 04:11 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, jkates said: Meh. The headlines are fun, but these things always take negotiation and settlement. The headline is more dramatic than the reality of the situation. There are no negotiations, unless they are firing him for cause, which is looks like they completely messed up that process, then Kelly is owed the full buyout amount to be paid in the manner in which the contract stated. LSU and their officials thought they'd be able to negotiate a smaller deal, that is failure on them. Now they are back tracking trying to find ways to reduce that payout. Edited yesterday at 04:12 PM by SchoolColors 1 Quote
Bobby_Batronic Posted yesterday at 05:16 PM Posted yesterday at 05:16 PM Looks like the offer to supply boiled crawfish in lieu of some of the cash buyout was rejected. 3 Quote
ArizonaLonghorn Posted yesterday at 05:50 PM Posted yesterday at 05:50 PM (edited) 3 hours ago, Quinncent McManning, Jr. said: Should have been fired for these dance moves honestly This one with QB Walker Howard is possibly worse better ... Edited yesterday at 05:50 PM by ArizonaLonghorn Quote
Inspired73 Posted yesterday at 05:53 PM Posted yesterday at 05:53 PM 1 hour ago, SchoolColors said: There are no negotiations, unless they are firing him for cause, which is looks like they completely messed up that process, then Kelly is owed the full buyout amount to be paid in the manner in which the contract stated. LSU and their officials thought they'd be able to negotiate a smaller deal, that is failure on them. Now they are back tracking trying to find ways to reduce that payout. Technically you are probably correct. But you can never forget that the party is in Louisianna. It will probably have an LSU alum as judge and everyone in the jury wearing purple and gold. This will not be an issue of Spanish law..................this will be LSU law. 2 Quote
DanielOnorato Posted yesterday at 06:21 PM Posted yesterday at 06:21 PM He needs to take his shirt off before he gets his Mardi Gras Beads. Quote
Lnghrn Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago What a cluster f. Will make it difficult to attract a top tier coach when you try to f-over the last coach. They are going to end up hiring a guy like Joe Brady, as they can buy with a bargain price without much buy-out. Could be a home run, but could also be a dud. Always a bigger risk to hire a first time head coach, especially at top 10 program. 1 Quote
Tuco Ramirez Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago How’s that search for a new coach going? 1 Quote
Jerky Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago LSU clearly fired BK for performance. LSU acted hastily initially and now stupidly as it relates to the for cause clause in the agreed upon contract. LSU appears untrustworthy and vile. If I'm a head coach or agent I'm not doing a deal with LSU unless the upfront money, buyout and terms look even more in my favor than the BK deal. LSU is a dumpster fire and clown show. LSU money donors should feel dissapointment and disgust in their program and this very embarrassing and costly process. 5 Quote
Bobby_Batronic Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 1 hour ago, Jerky said: LSU clearly fired BK for performance. LSU acted hastily initially and now stupidly as it relates to the for cause clause in the agreed upon contract. LSU appears untrustworthy and vile. If I'm a head coach or agent I'm not doing a deal with LSU unless the upfront money, buyout and terms look even more in my favor than the BK deal. LSU is a dumpster fire and clown show. LSU money donors should feel dissapointment and disgust in their program and this very embarrassing and costly process. I think big buyouts are going away, and there will be quite a few someone’s willing to deal with the wild expectations and fertile recruiting grounds at LSU for just $7-8M per year. Quote
Class of 04 Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago So basically Kiffen told them to go pound sand and now their crawfishing (pun intended) trying to save face. Quote
AusMOJO Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago This is one big mess they've created. It's just pure stupidity at this point. Quote
Ace Recruiter Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 3 hours ago, Bobby_Batronic said: I think big buyouts are going away, and there will be quite a few someone’s willing to deal with the wild expectations and fertile recruiting grounds at LSU for just $7-8M per year. Buyouts aren't going anywhere if Jimmy Sexton has anything to say about it. LSU is embarrassing themselves. Pay the man and move on. 3 Quote
tsip92 Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago I’m sure Tom Herman and Charlie Strong are available for $7m/yr not guaranteed. LSU isn’t getting Kiffin or anyone close if they are going to play this game. Make sure you have plenty of popcorn, this is probably a double feature. Quote
Oldest Horn Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 15 hours ago, Bobby_Batronic said: I think big buyouts are going away, and there will be quite a few someone’s willing to deal with the wild expectations and fertile recruiting grounds at LSU for just $7-8M per year. Too simplistic a call. Among top tier coaching prospects at solid P4 schools looking to step up to a destination job, they’ll get significant guarantees. For G5 coaches and hot coordinators, they’ll take more favorable deals. So the Kiffins, Cignettis, Lannings, etc, will get the guaranteed deals, or leverage their existing schools for better guarantees. Guys like Fisher and Franklin, who already have sweetheart buyouts, will be less demanding. Quote
Deep in the heart Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago What a shitshow. I'm glad though that it's happening. Hopefully it pushes Aiden Hall, Martinez, and Anderson our way. Keep doing you LSU! 🤣 Quote
Inspired73 Posted 59 minutes ago Posted 59 minutes ago 20 hours ago, Lnghrn said: What a cluster f. Will make it difficult to attract a top tier coach when you try to f-over the last coach. They are going to end up hiring a guy like Joe Brady, as they can buy with a bargain price without much buy-out. Could be a home run, but could also be a dud. Always a bigger risk to hire a first time head coach, especially at top 10 program. Agree. You may also remember that the Baton Rouge Coffee Club wasn't too nice to Big Ed either. I wouldn't count out Jimbo on this deal. He has no conscience or morals, and he truly believes he is an elite football coach. Then throw in A/M paying part of his salary......just sayn. Quote
Bobby_Batronic Posted 11 minutes ago Posted 11 minutes ago (edited) 15 hours ago, Ace Recruiter said: Buyouts aren't going anywhere if Jimmy Sexton has anything to say about it. LSU is embarrassing themselves. Pay the man and move on. Jimmy isn’t living forever, and the current model, like much about CFB, is broken. Coaches no longer require 5 years to get their guys into the program and develop them from HS players. That’s still a part of it, but now the nation is your oyster if you need to supplement, or in some cases completely flip, your roster and have access to blue blood funds. Someone is going to be smart enough to offer a premiere coach $12-14M a year with no buyout and only the guarantee to payout the remaining contract if fired along with guarantees for athlete payroll. The coach will still make generational money, and the AD won’t be hamstrung with huge payouts to former employees if it wants to move on. You can kill the golden goose, and someone’s going to figure out that there’s more money to throw at the program and players if the athletic department and donors aren’t tapped out paying absurd buyouts. $50M guaranteed over 4 years is still a very fine chunk of change, and athletic directors won’t be tempted to tack on silly 10 years contract extensions. The NFL has largely figured this out, and it’s developmental league will wrap their collective heads around it in short order too imoho. Edited 10 minutes ago by Bobby_Batronic Quote
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