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I know, the dang fool spent all his spare change on the Dell Medical School. Talk about misplaced priorities!

I'm thinking this looks a lot like Evan Stewart 2.0. How did that work out? Did we survive that loss? If we get both Ffrench and Lockett I'll be very satisfied with WR recruiting. If we get just one of them plus a couple other talented guys ranked lower on our offer list we'll be OK. If we miss on both Ffrench AND Lockett then it's time to panic.

It's considered bad manners to provide facts and sound logic in these situations.

What does "Gerry I hear is trending with the 5 star tackle from Kansas. " mean? Not another musical reference, is it?

Ouch. Touché.

20 this year ... I think I remember 33 one year but may be mistaken https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/2024-elite-11-finals-roster-meet-the-20-qbs-invited-to-prestigious-event-headlined-by-tavien-st-clair/

Just speculating, but assume(1) Bond, Bolden and Golden play a year and go pro or move on, opening 2 or maybe 3 starting spots. Assume(2) Cook and Wingo are as good as we think and hope they are and have earned starting jobs for 2025. That leaves this Moore competing with 3rd year WRs Deandre Moore and Niblett and second year guys Butler, Livingstone and Dubose for the WR3 slot, plus likely someone like Ffrench or Lockett and a third or fourth 2025 WR recruit. Assume(3) one or two of the 2023 and 2024 guys are not happy with the depth chart and portal out, which still leaves maybe 6 or more guys he has to beat out, all potentially quality players. Can we assume(4) he is enrolling early? If not the odds get longer. Whole lot of assumptions but if Kori is as good as advertised you can assume(5) he has a decent shot at earning the WR3 spot, but he's definitely not a lock. Say 50-50 to be the starter by the OU - Georgia games? Who the heck knows at this point, a lot depends on if he enrolls early and the development of the WRs besides Cook and Wingo.

Seems like these early Heisman bets rarely get it right. Last year it was Caleb Williams ... not gonna look it up but of the past 10 Heisman winners I'd bet no more than two or three were favorites before the season began.

Are these anonymous responses on this website or do you have a link to them? If you have a sub to The Athletic (NY Times) the link is https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5493847/2024/05/16/college-football-coaches-qb-draft-class-deion-sanders/ There's a summary on Sports Illustrated at https://www.si.com/college/texas/news/overhyped-anonymous-coaches-have-mixed-opinions-on-texas-qb-quinn-ewers-01hy1bqgyk1y Here is the relevant section from The Athletic - the article is talking about which QBs will go high in the 2025 draft, so Beck and Sanders are also mentioned (if Bobby & Gerry don't want us to quote directly from behind paywalls let me know and I'll delete it - even though YOUR paywall posts are usually rebroadcast within minutes :)) Quinn Ewers, Texas Four years ago, he was the highest-rated quarterback prospect the online recruiting services had ever evaluated. His college career started at Ohio State, but he wasn’t a factor on a team that featured C.J. Stroud, among others. Ewers returned home to Texas in 2022, where he had an impressive moment early, lighting up the Alabama defense for a quarter before leaving the game with a shoulder injury. Ewers was plagued by inconsistency for the remainder of that year but matured last offseason, got into much better shape and made nice strides in 2023 — improving from 58 percent as a passer to 69 percent during Texas’ College Football Playoff run. He did have a very talented group of receivers to throw to last season with speedsters Xavier Worthy and AD Mitchell and gifted tight end Ja’Tavion Sanders. The Longhorns brought in more burners through the portal to go with a promising bunch of young receivers. Still, some of the coaches who have faced him aren’t as enthusiastic as some of the recruiting analysts were. “I’m not that high on him,” said a DB coach who played Texas last year. “Overhyped. He has a good arm, and he did have a lot of talent around him, but you just see a bunch of stuff where you wonder what he’s doing out there.” “I think he’s just still trying to figure things out,” said a veteran Big 12 assistant. “Sark (Steve Sarkisian) does such a good job of setting things up for him, and so you’ll see times where he’ll rip it, but then there are other times, he just seems to be a little timid.” “I’m very curious to watch him this year,” said a Big 12 defensive assistant. “The last two years he had superstars around him. There’s some ‘Oh My God!’ throws on film that he made against Alabama, but he was just so inconsistent. I think he’s about average athletically.” “I do think he’s come a long way from 2022,” said a Big 12 DC. “There was too much of the (Patrick) Mahomes comparisons around him coming into college. He does have a good arm, but he’s not anywhere near as athletic nor the playmaker Mahomes is, or has that kind of presence. It’s kind of a strange deal because people want to talk about that, about what he was supposed to be, or they want to talk about Arch Manning behind him. But that isn’t the kid’s fault.”

I was thinking it sounds like Tech since we left them with a Texas-sized butt whipping. Their coaches like to talk big and have delusions of grandeur adequacy

Is that Miss Galore?

Jaden Rashada was a Top 50 recruit, # 6 QB in the 2023 class that featured Arch Manning, Nico Iamaleava, Dante Moore and Jackson Arnold. He had a reported $9.5 million deal to go to Miami but Florida kept pushing and, desperate for a difference maker at QB, offered him a four year deal totaling $13.85 million, which he accepted and signed (The Athletic has a copy of the contract). But the Gator backers couldn't come up with the money (and Rashada didn't have an earth shaking senior year of HS), so they didn't pay and tried to renegotiate last second at (allegedly) less than 50 cents on the dollar. Rashada bailed on Florida and ended up near me at Arizona State (I think his father had played here, that was the connection - for sure ASU isn't a player in NIL), and now is at Georgia, where presumably the checks don't bounce. And now Rashada has sued Billy Napier and Florida, and the whole sordid mess hits the courtrooms. "Jaden Rashada sues Billy Napier, Florida booster over NIL deal" https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/40189896/jaden-rashada-florida-recruit-lawsuit-nil

Clemson lost 12 players to the portal this cycle; only two were 4* (Mukuba to Texas and Pride to Missouri). Seven ended up at P4 schools. Many top programs are losing a lot more players to the portal - Texas 25 xfers out, 11 in; Georgia 24 out, 10 in; Ohio State 25 out, 6 in, including a 5* and four 4*. I fully get the criticism - it seems foolish not to spackle over some cracks in your depth chart (or recharge a depleted position like Texas at WR), but Dabo's philosophy is to keep a home-grown roster and develop kids from high school. Time will tell if he can do it and still win at a high level. As an aside I was born in NC and grew up in SC. Clemson was sort of the A&M of the Carolinas (minus the wacky traditions, so maybe the Texas Tech), located outside the major population centers. I doubt they would have the NIL resources to compete against the big boys in the ACC, much less the SEC. As for the two championships, it's amazing what you can do when you have the right QB. Had D.J. Uiagalelei played up to expectations (# 1 QB out of high school, 5* and Top 10 recruit) they would not have dropped like they did after Lawrence left. I think this move is a mistake but Dabo may feel that not chasing transfers is his best hope of keeping the roster together.

Gonna be REALLY difficult for me to pick a team to root for in that matchup.

List of top WRs in the 2021 class (247 Composite) and selected others who were drafted after year 3. Eye opening how some guys excel and other guys just can't get out of their own way. Guys drafted in 2024 NFL draft (after just 3 years of college) in bold 1 Emeka Egbuka # 10 N 5* Ohio State (# 1 WR, 10 N means ranked 10th overall nationally) - likely first rounder in 2025 draft, held back due to injury 2 JaCorey Brooks # 27 N 5* - Alabama -> Louisville via portal 3 Troy Franklin # 41 N - Oregon 4th round 4 Mario Williams # 43 N - Oklahoma -> USC (followed Riley) -> Tulane 5 Agiye Hall # 45 N - Alabama -> Texas -> out of football a year -> UCF walkon 6 JoJo Earle # 47 N - Alabama -> SMU (Texas really wanted this kid out of high school) 7 Dont'e Thornton # 57 N - Oregon -> Tennessee 8 Xavier Worthy # 62 N - Michigan (couldn't enroll early) -> Texas - 1st round 9 Deion Smith # 70 N - LSU, sat out year, Ole Miss 10 Christian Leary # 75 N - Alabama -> UCF -> Georgia Tech (that's four Alabama kids in the Top 10, none were drafted in 2024 and none are still at Bama. Culture, anyone?) 13 Brian Thomas 2021 # 13 WR # 89 N - LSU - 1st round 14 Marvin Harrison 2021 # 14 WR # 97 N - Ohio State - # 4 overall selection in draft, first WR 39 Malik Nabers 2021 # 39 WR # 251 N - LSU - 1st round, # 6 overall, 2nd WR 61 Keon Coleman 2021 # 61 WR # 377 N - Michigan State -> Florida State - early 2nd round 63 Adonai Mitchell 2021 # 63 WR # 383 N - Georgia -> Texas 2nd round

Agree with your three, but here's a different way of approaching the question. 1) an EDGE guy who can REALLY pressure the passer. Don't care if it's Trey Moore or Colton Vasek or Colin Simmons but I want to see a dominant 3rd and long pass rusher. 2) a young WR who steps up and becomes a solid # 2 WR behind Bond. Hopefully Cook or Wingo or even Moore, but someone who is developed internally (as opposed to a portal dude) and who will step into the # 1 WR role next year as a star if Bond goes pro. 3) Arch Manning - I'm pretty sure Quinn will get dinged up at some point in 2024 and here's hoping Arch not only can get us a couple of wins (like Maalik last year) but shows star power for the future doing it. It will be great if QE stays healthy and Arch has to wait another year, but just in case ...

Peter Green wrote the song and sang it. And played a terrific lead guitar. He was a very talented musician, but had mental problems and left the band too soon. The Mac version of Black Magic Woman was their first sorta hit single, rising to # 37 in the UK in 1967 but not charting anywhere else in the world. Over the next few years they had six more singles that charted but were mostly a blues band not well known outside England. Then Christine Perfect (McVie) joined and later Stevie and Lindsay in the mid-70's and they exploded as a totally different sound (only the rhythm section, Mick Fleetwood and John McVie, remained from the blues band). Carlos Santana liked Green's playing, sat in on some sessions and the Santana version was released in 1970. It became their 2nd hit (after "Evil Ways") and went to # 4 in the US. I really enjoy Fleetwood Mac, especially the songs by Stevie and Christine, but to me the Santana cover of Black Magic Woman was much better.

I know! Gerry Hamilton is probably the only person who has ever preferred the Fleetwood Mac version. He probably thinks Stevie is singing on it. I just listened to the Mac version again and it's not as bad as I remembered, but it's not Santana either.

He's in his sixth year so it's possible likely he's a grad transfer, unless he changed majors a few times. Rules are different for grad xfer guys. Nothing to see here 🙂

What the hell is wrong with you dude? He's a 17 year old who's making a big decision based in part on how badly a team needs him. Show some class.

Probably a time limit of a few minutes after you post before the edit option fades away

I'm not Gerry (he's smarter, younger, knows a lot more about recruiting and is much better looking) but when Sark first watched KJ's tape he wrote in his notes "Bryce Young 2.0" and KJ loves that comparison. (Presumably Bryce Young the Heisman winner and not Bryce Young the struggling NFL QB :))

My all-time fav group [Fleetwood Mac] Best version of "Black Magic Woman" - the original by Fleetwood Mac or the Santana version?

Stevie Nicks or Linda Ronstadt ?

I was thinking the same thing, he would likely have gone ahead of Nix based on arm strength, and possibly ahead of McCarthy. Heck, someone could have preferred Quinn over a 24 year old oft-injured Penix. But he could easily have gone in that 8-12 range where those three guys were picked. As you said, I'm glad he's coming back too.