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1 minute ago, drag worm said:

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Hutson

DJ

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Cruz

Kibble

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The incompetence of flood and Texas in regards to OL recruiting in the portal is stunning.

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jhookem91 Sophomore

jhookem91

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5 minutes ago, CJ Vogel said:

4th year Hutson and 4th year Robertson last year

Based on Bobby’s comments today, Robertson is likely to come back in 2026, which would be great news for the team but not so great for Cruz.  I hope he finds a good spot like Kibble did so quickly.

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Bobbers All-Conference

Bobbers

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1 hour ago, Ronnie Barnhardt said:

Another bad OL eval from Flood and company, shocker

Thank goodness it is so easy to find linemen that develop into pros.  Have you offered your services?

Anyway, here is what Flood has accomplished in his career- 

 

Below is the updated list of his developed linemen, categorized by All-American and All-Conference (1st or 2nd Team) honors.

University of Texas (2021–Present)

The Texas front under Flood has been defined by the development of highly-rated recruits into elite college starters and NFL prospects.

Kelvin Banks Jr. (OT): Consensus First-Team All-American (2024); First-Team All-Big 12 (2023); Second-Team All-Big 12 (2022).

Trevor Goosby (OT): First-Team All-SEC (2025).

Jake Majors (C): Second-Team All-Big 12 (2023).

Christian Jones (OT): Second-Team All-Big 12 (2023).

Hayden Conner (OG): Honorable Mention All-Big 12 (2023); drafted in the 6th round of the 2025 NFL Draft.

DJ Campbell (OG): Third-Team All-SEC (2025).

University of Alabama (2019–2020)

Flood coached the 2020 unit that won the Joe Moore Award. Nearly every starter on that line earned elite individual honors.

Alex Leatherwood (OT): Unanimous First-Team All-American (2020); First-Team All-SEC (2019, 2020); Outland Trophy winner.

Landon Dickerson (C): Unanimous First-Team All-American (2020); First-Team All-SEC (2020); Second-Team All-SEC (2019); Rimington Trophy winner.

Evan Neal (OT): Freshman All-American (2019); First-Team All-SEC (2020). Note: Went on to be a Consensus All-American the year after Flood left.

Jedrick Wills Jr. (OT): Second-Team All-American (2019); First-Team All-SEC (2019).

Deonte Brown (OG): First-Team All-SEC (2020).

Rutgers University (2005–2015)

During Flood’s 11-year stint (as OL Coach/OC and later Head Coach), Rutgers produced some of the most decorated linemen in school history.

Anthony Davis (OT): Second-Team All-American (2009); First-Team All-Big East (2008, 2009). Highest draft pick in Rutgers history (11th overall).

Kaleb Johnson (OT/OG): Freshman All-American (2011); First-Team All-Big East (2012); Second-Team All-Big Ten (2014).

Art Forst (OG): First-Team All-Big East (2011).

Jeremy Zuttah (OT): First-Team All-Big East (2007).

Darnell Stapleton (C): First-Team All-Big East (2006). Super Bowl XLIII starter.

Desmond Wynn (OG): Second-Team All-Big East (2011).

Cameron Stephenson (OT): Second-Team All-Big East (2006).

Ryan Blaszczyk (C): Second-Team All-Big East (2008, 2009).

University of Delaware (2002–2004)

While coaching at the FCS level, Flood helped build the line for the 2003 National Championship team.

Chris Steiner (C): First-Team All-Atlantic 10 (2004).

Jason Nerys (OG): First-Team All-Atlantic 10 (2003).

Hofstra University (1997–2001)

Dan Gangi (OT): First-Team All-Atlantic 10 (2001).

Kareem Huggins (OG): Second-Team All-Atlantic 10 (2000, 2001).

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AZ Longhorn

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2 hours ago, CJ Vogel said:

Clogged path to the field definitely played a part. 

I have a hard time with this from Kibble and Cruz. We all know OL is the developmental position with the longest average timeline from 18 year old to starter on a championship-caliber team. And these guys chose to come here out of HS knowing that, but now aren't willing to continue developing as a backup until they're a championship-caliber starter. 

Did they just bet on themselves getting to that level by this offseason, are realizing they're not at that level, and re-calibrating accordingly? 

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Ronnie Barnhardt Freshman

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1 hour ago, Bobbers said:

Thank goodness it is so easy to find linemen that develop into pros.  Have you offered your services?

Anyway, here is what Flood has accomplished in his career- 

 

Below is the updated list of his developed linemen, categorized by All-American and All-Conference (1st or 2nd Team) honors.

University of Texas (2021–Present)

The Texas front under Flood has been defined by the development of highly-rated recruits into elite college starters and NFL prospects.

Kelvin Banks Jr. (OT): Consensus First-Team All-American (2024); First-Team All-Big 12 (2023); Second-Team All-Big 12 (2022).

Trevor Goosby (OT): First-Team All-SEC (2025).

Jake Majors (C): Second-Team All-Big 12 (2023).

Christian Jones (OT): Second-Team All-Big 12 (2023).

Hayden Conner (OG): Honorable Mention All-Big 12 (2023); drafted in the 6th round of the 2025 NFL Draft.

DJ Campbell (OG): Third-Team All-SEC (2025).

University of Alabama (2019–2020)

Flood coached the 2020 unit that won the Joe Moore Award. Nearly every starter on that line earned elite individual honors.

Alex Leatherwood (OT): Unanimous First-Team All-American (2020); First-Team All-SEC (2019, 2020); Outland Trophy winner.

Landon Dickerson (C): Unanimous First-Team All-American (2020); First-Team All-SEC (2020); Second-Team All-SEC (2019); Rimington Trophy winner.

Evan Neal (OT): Freshman All-American (2019); First-Team All-SEC (2020). Note: Went on to be a Consensus All-American the year after Flood left.

Jedrick Wills Jr. (OT): Second-Team All-American (2019); First-Team All-SEC (2019).

uation (OG): First-Team All-SEC (2020).

Rutgers University (2005–2015)

During Flood’s 11-year stint (as OL Coach/OC and later Head Coach), Rutgers produced some of the most decorated linemen in school history.

Anthony Davis (OT): Second-Team All-American (2009); First-Team All-Big East (2008, 2009). Highest draft pick in Rutgers history (11th overall).

Kaleb Johnson (OT/OG): Freshman All-American (2011); First-Team All-Big East (2012); Second-Team All-Big Ten (2014).

Art Forst (OG): First-Team All-Big East (2011).

Jeremy Zuttah (OT): First-Team All-Big East (2007).

Darnell Stapleton (C): First-Team All-Big East (2006). Super Bowl XLIII starter.

Desmond Wynn (OG): Second-Team All-Big East (2011).

Cameron Stephenson (OT): Second-Team All-Big East (2006).

Ryan Blaszczyk (C): Second-Team All-Big East (2008, 2009).

University of Delaware (2002–2004)

While coaching at the FCS level, Flood helped build the line for the 2003 National Championship team.

Chris Steiner (C): First-Team All-Atlantic 10 (2004).

Jason Nerys (OG): First-Team All-Atlantic 10 (2003).

Hofstra University (1997–2001)

Dan Gangi (OT): First-Team All-Atlantic 10 (2001).

Kareem Huggins (OG): Second-Team All-Atlantic 10 (2000, 2001).

I said evaluation (ie recruiting). He didn't recruit Majors, Conner, or Jones. And kudos on not screwing up 2 5 stars in Banks and Campbell. That leaves Goosby. How many of the Alabama OL you listed did he recruit? Zero. Outside of Goosby, how many non-5 stars has Flood recruited to Texas that have been a success? Hutson maybe? Anyone else?

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Bobbers All-Conference

Bobbers

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18 minutes ago, Ronnie Barnhardt said:

I said evaluation (ie recruiting). He didn't recruit Majors, Conner, or Jones. And kudos on not screwing up 2 5 stars in Banks and Campbell. That leaves Goosby. How many of the Alabama OL you listed did he recruit? Zero. Outside of Goosby, how many non-5 stars has Flood recruited to Texas that have been a success? Hutson maybe? Anyone else?

I guess you are right.  What do Saban and Sark know about coaching?

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Bobbers All-Conference

Bobbers

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9 minutes ago, Ronnie Barnhardt said:

I’ll give you Cam Williams in there too

I know what you are thinking.  You are wondering what Gemini, Grok, Chat gpt think.  You are wondering what would happen if I took those three opinions, fed them to Claude, and told Claude that he is the world's greatest offensive line coach.  What would Coach Claude say???

Coach Claude?

 

Let me tell you something about Kyle Flood.

I've been in rooms with a lot of offensive line coaches. I've seen the guys who talk a good game, draw pretty plays on the whiteboard, and can't teach a 19-year-old how to set his anchor. I've seen the recruiters who bring in five-stars and watch them get bull-rushed into the quarterback's lap. And I've seen the rare ones - the ones who can actually build men.

Kyle Flood is a builder.

What I Know From Watching His Work

When I study tape on his linemen - and I mean really study it - I see something you don't see often: fundamentals that hold up under pressure.

His guys don't panic. When a defensive end hits them with a late move, when a tackle game catches them between assignments, when the pocket's collapsing and the quarterback's eyes get big - Flood's linemen recover. That's coaching. That's thousands of reps in practice where he put them in bad situations on purpose.

You can't fake that. You either teach it or you don't.

The Resume Speaks

Let me walk through this, because people forget:

Delaware - He helped build the offensive line for a national championship team. FCS, sure. But championships are championships. You learn how to win there.

Rutgers - Took a program with no offensive line tradition and produced Anthony Davis, an 11th overall pick. That's not recruiting. Rutgers wasn't out-recruiting anybody. That's development.

Alabama - The 2020 Joe Moore Award. You know what that means? It means five guys playing as one unit. It means technique, communication, trust, and violence. That unit had Leatherwood (Outland Trophy), Dickerson (Rimington Trophy), Evan Neal, Jedrick Wills. Four future NFL starters. On one line. Under one position coach.

Texas - Kelvin Banks Jr., consensus All-American. Trevor Goosby, first-team All-SEC. He's doing it again, in the NIL era, with portal chaos, with fans screaming for his head every time a quarterback takes a sack.

Here's What People Get Wrong

They look at one bad game, one bad season, one young tackle getting beat on a twist, and they say "Fire Flood."

That tells me they don't understand offensive line play.

Offensive lines are not assembled. They're grown. It takes two, three years to build real cohesion. You need guys who've taken thousands of reps together, who know each other's tendencies, who communicate without talking.

Flood builds that. But it takes time. And modern football - with the portal, with NIL, with roster churn - works against everything he does well.

When people blame him for a rebuilding year, they're blaming a farmer for not having a harvest in March.

The NFL Translation - This Is What Matters To Me

Here's why I'd hire Flood's linemen in a heartbeat:

They're not projects. They come in knowing how to pass protect. Vertical sets, hand placement, anchor technique - it's already there. My coaches aren't starting from scratch.

They handle mental load. Flood's guys call protections, adjust to fronts, handle games and stunts. That's NFL readiness. Most college linemen show up and have to learn our language. Flood's guys already speak it.

They're built right. Functional mass, flexibility, balance. They don't flame out after two seasons because their bodies can't handle the grind.

Dickerson. Leatherwood. Wills. Neal. Banks. These aren't flukes. That's a pattern.

My Honest Assessment

As an offensive line coach: Top five in the country. Maybe top three. His track record across four programs, three decades, and multiple levels of competition is undeniable. He's not a scheme guy - he's a fundamentals guy. And fundamentals win championships.

As a head coach: Different job. He struggled with the organizational side at Rutgers - discipline, culture, off-field stuff. That's real. But failing as a head coach doesn't diminish what he is in the trenches.

In today's game: He's fighting an uphill battle. The portal rewards quick fixes. NIL rewards stars. Flood's method - recruit, develop, build over years - is out of fashion. But it's not wrong. It's how you build dynasties, not one-year wonders.

The Lombardi Standard

Here's my final word on Kyle Flood:

If I'm building a program to win in January - not September, not the portal rankings, not Twitter - I want him coaching my offensive line.

Because when it's third and short, when the game's on the line, when some 280-pound defensive tackle is trying to wreck everything you've built...

I want five men up front who've been taught by someone who understands what this game is really about.

Kyle Flood understands.

stands up, taps the table

That's my evaluation. Now let's get back to work.

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4 hours ago, Burt Reynolds Jr said:

Need some info from @Gerry Hamilton on why this croot didn’t pan out. Gerry was super high on him coming out of HS. 
 

 

Probably thought he needed to play and they didnt see it the same way. Somewhere else probably he looked at while being recruited probably looked better as far as a path to the field, is my guess.

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1 hour ago, AZ Longhorn said:

I have a hard time with this from Kibble and Cruz. We all know OL is the developmental position with the longest average timeline from 18 year old to starter on a championship-caliber team. And these guys chose to come here out of HS knowing that, but now aren't willing to continue developing as a backup until they're a championship-caliber starter. 

Did they just bet on themselves getting to that level by this offseason, are realizing they're not at that level, and re-calibrating accordingly? 

Probably a lil bit of both

Thanos72 All-Conference

Thanos72

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5 hours ago, Bobbers said:

Thank goodness it is so easy to find linemen that develop into pros.  Have you offered your services?

Anyway, here is what Flood has accomplished in his career- 

 

Below is the updated list of his developed linemen, categorized by All-American and All-Conference (1st or 2nd Team) honors.

University of Texas (2021–Present)

The Texas front under Flood has been defined by the development of highly-rated recruits into elite college starters and NFL prospects.

Kelvin Banks Jr. (OT): Consensus First-Team All-American (2024); First-Team All-Big 12 (2023); Second-Team All-Big 12 (2022).

Trevor Goosby (OT): First-Team All-SEC (2025).

Jake Majors (C): Second-Team All-Big 12 (2023).

Christian Jones (OT): Second-Team All-Big 12 (2023).

Hayden Conner (OG): Honorable Mention All-Big 12 (2023); drafted in the 6th round of the 2025 NFL Draft.

DJ Campbell (OG): Third-Team All-SEC (2025).

University of Alabama (2019–2020)

Flood coached the 2020 unit that won the Joe Moore Award. Nearly every starter on that line earned elite individual honors.

Alex Leatherwood (OT): Unanimous First-Team All-American (2020); First-Team All-SEC (2019, 2020); Outland Trophy winner.

Landon Dickerson (C): Unanimous First-Team All-American (2020); First-Team All-SEC (2020); Second-Team All-SEC (2019); Rimington Trophy winner.

Evan Neal (OT): Freshman All-American (2019); First-Team All-SEC (2020). Note: Went on to be a Consensus All-American the year after Flood left.

Jedrick Wills Jr. (OT): Second-Team All-American (2019); First-Team All-SEC (2019).

Deonte Brown (OG): First-Team All-SEC (2020).

Rutgers University (2005–2015)

During Flood’s 11-year stint (as OL Coach/OC and later Head Coach), Rutgers produced some of the most decorated linemen in school history.

Anthony Davis (OT): Second-Team All-American (2009); First-Team All-Big East (2008, 2009). Highest draft pick in Rutgers history (11th overall).

Kaleb Johnson (OT/OG): Freshman All-American (2011); First-Team All-Big East (2012); Second-Team All-Big Ten (2014).

Art Forst (OG): First-Team All-Big East (2011).

Jeremy Zuttah (OT): First-Team All-Big East (2007).

Darnell Stapleton (C): First-Team All-Big East (2006). Super Bowl XLIII starter.

Desmond Wynn (OG): Second-Team All-Big East (2011).

Cameron Stephenson (OT): Second-Team All-Big East (2006).

Ryan Blaszczyk (C): Second-Team All-Big East (2008, 2009).

University of Delaware (2002–2004)

While coaching at the FCS level, Flood helped build the line for the 2003 National Championship team.

Chris Steiner (C): First-Team All-Atlantic 10 (2004).

Jason Nerys (OG): First-Team All-Atlantic 10 (2003).

Hofstra University (1997–2001)

Dan Gangi (OT): First-Team All-Atlantic 10 (2001).

Kareem Huggins (OG): Second-Team All-Atlantic 10 (2000, 2001).

I mean this sincerely with no shade. Dissertations aside, did you watch the line play? One class has done okay. Banks started as a frosh so unicorn talent was there. The others stayed about the same level of play. Maybe he gets credit for c jones? Other than Banks, all the others were meh to average. Majors stayed about the same. The line has never been able to get a run game sans a Bijan level player. This year we were awful. Well below average, heavily penalized, with ZERO bench strength. No one was ready to play. Bizarre Neto situation. 

I’ll never get the need to defend someone when objective tape, play, and lack of development exists. Football is a present day meritocracy. Other than one class that still underperformed against ranking and expectations, he has literally cratered the room. Why would you want the person that created this mess to continue to lead it? What would it take to see he is not the fit to get us to elite? I sincerely don’t get it. His on field and recruiting results are objectively subpar for a Texas level team. There’s no portal line waiting to get to be coached by him so even the market has spoken. It’s not primarily nil, other teams can put on tape of this year alone and point out we don’t develop. Cmon now. Objectively you should want better for Texas. 🤘🏽

 

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