1 minute ago, Oldest Horn said:

Funny you call Arch broken but I’m losing. 
 

Would Arch say he’s broken?

and what if KJ Lacey goes out there and looks as bad as Arch? I’m just saying it starts at the top man. Arch is definitely broken but so is Sark, Kyle flood and AJ

Just now, Shmatt said:

No kidding look at the teams Sark has put out on the field the past two years. And has has gotten out coached in the biggest of moments 

Trusting Arch could well be Sark’s downfall. 

Just now, Shmatt said:

and what if KJ Lacey goes out there and looks as bad as Arch? I’m just saying it starts at the top man. Arch is definitely broken but so is Sark, Kyle flood and AJ

As DKR told James Street when putting him in for Super Bill Bradley, “Aw hell, you can’t do any worse!” 

1 minute ago, Oldest Horn said:

Trusting Arch could well be Sark’s downfall. 

Just now, Shmatt said:

Is this Arch trying to find open receivers he can’t see?

50 minutes ago, Oldest Horn said:

It’s looking like less and less of a coincidence that our running game found life after Arch started hitting passes against Oh St. And it happened in that order, not the other way around. 

That actually makes a lot of sense - it's the reverse of 'the run sets up the pass' theory.  When the opposing D knows that the short pass scenario is non existent they can concentrate on the run.

1 hour ago, MCTEX said:

If this is a run, then both the right guard and the right tackle blew their assignment. They both should be blocking down on the player in their inside gap. 
 

Probably a bad play call as well, too many orange helmets to block and not enough white helmets.  

On this pic, if RG, RT, TE block down to the left and Terry gets the guy TE is blocking we have hat on hat. We only needed 2 yards. Again, who makes the blocking calls? That guy needs help or replaced. Y can’t we get “Omaha, Omaha” and everyone point to their guy. 

Just now, PaulieD said:

That actually makes a lot of sense - it's the reverse of 'the run sets up the pass' theory.  When the opposing D knows that the short pass scenario is non existent they can concentrate on the run.

It’s the complement to the run sets up the pass. If defenses know you can’t handle pressure or see open receivers, they with send six often. 

Just now, Oldest Horn said:

It’s the complement to the run sets up the pass. If defenses know you can’t handle pressure or see open receivers, they with send six often. 

OK

It is a very complicated offense that needs consistent elite execution for it to work. This is just stupid in today's college game, he needs to stop trying to get a NFL job and win college football games. He could dial up plays to make it easier to get Arch into some sort of rhythm, and if Arch still can't make it happen, then it's not going to happen for Arch. Consider how easy the Florida OC made the reads for Jones this past Saturday. Jones needed to make 2 throws all game.

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5 hours ago, Brho said:

When you don’t have a qb that can see the field or make the throws it’s going to make the offense look bad. 

When there is no threat of a running game and teams can pin their ears back in the pass rush and you never call a HB slip screen it's on the coaches. Sark picked his groceries and their running game is abysmal to help the pass. 

1 minute ago, DanielOnorato said:

When there is no threat of a running game and teams can pin their ears back in the pass rush and you never call a HB slip screen it's on the coaches. Sark picked his groceries and their running game is abysmal to help the pass. 

When there’s no threat of the pass the d can load the box and send six at will. Works both ways. 

5 hours ago, pinkman_90 said:

I can keep these coming but I’ll start with the one that lost us the game.  

I don't get why we just don't go empty spread formation in these situations and just run our 6'4 220 pound QB to pick up the first down. 

2 hours ago, MCTEX said:

If this is a run, then both the right guard and the right tackle blew their assignment. They both should be blocking down on the player in their inside gap. 
 

Probably a bad play call as well, too many orange helmets to block and not enough white helmets.  

They explained in the video that the only way this play would work in this set up is if Shannon is lined up on the left side instead. But either way, a truly developed QB would've noticed the mismatch and either called an audible or timeout. Sark is at fault for a couple of the short distance playcalls that went wayward on money downs. 

4 minutes ago, JR Smith said:

I don't get why we just don't go empty spread formation in these situations and just run our 6'4 220 pound QB to pick up the first down. 

It was 4th and 6inches.  A qb sneak gets that idk 95/100 times?  Terrible play call.  
 

And even if it was a good scenario for that call, there were design issues.  As shown in the video and from Sark’s mouth.  Old Horn will probably just cover his ears and blame Arch for not lead blocking.
 

 

 

43 minutes ago, Oldest Horn said:

When there’s no threat of the pass the d can load the box and send six at will. Works both ways. 

You've also said you'd take ewers over Ehlinger. Focus on O line and run game and Arch can play well. He was your offensive MVP last season. 

7 minutes ago, DanielOnorato said:

You've also said you'd take ewers over Ehlinger. Focus on O line and run game and Arch can play well. He was your offensive MVP last season. 

I would. But I’d take Sam over Arch right now. 

31 minutes ago, pinkman_90 said:

It was 4th and 6inches.  A qb sneak gets that idk 95/100 times?  Terrible play call.  
 

And even if it was a good scenario for that call, there were design issues.  As shown in the video and from Sark’s mouth.  Old Horn will probably just cover his ears and blame Arch for not lead blocking.
 

 

 

I wouldn’t but I’m so flattered to remain in your feels. 

13 minutes ago, Oldest Horn said:

I would. But I’d take Sam over Arch right now. 

The way y'all been smearing the kid you'd take anybody over him. 

1 minute ago, DanielOnorato said:

The way y'all been smearing the kid you'd take anybody over him. 

Smearing? I don’t think so. He’s played awful the past two games. 
 

As far as “amyone”, I can name dozens of QBs I’d take Arch over. But right now Quinn and Sam would be far better alternatives. 

6 hours ago, mmdaytontexas said:

What plays specifically? How is the scheme at fault and not the players blowing assignments? I hear these general indictments about scheme and play calling, but I don't see the evidence. Yeah, a play doesn't work because a defense did a twist or blitz, but no scheme is going to stop that. The OL have to adjust and make the block.

We should blame Sark for his lack of holding his players and coaches responsible and accountable for doing their jobs badly, but unless we can specifically show play call or scheme deficiencies, then we shouldn't make general indictments about the play calls or scheme.

Great to see hugs being exchanged mid-game… geez

1 hour ago, Oldest Horn said:

When there’s no threat of the pass the d can load the box and send six at will. Works both ways. 

The Oline can’t pick up a run blitz or a pass blitz so it doesn’t matter. Sark knows what plays work with his current personnel, but that doesn’t fit his offensive philosophy go for explosive plays. The quick pass game is there and works; he just needs to be ok with long sustained drives. 

1 minute ago, Joe D Villasenor said:

The Oline can’t pick up a run blitz or a pass blitz so it doesn’t matter. Sark knows what plays work with his current personnel, but that doesn’t fit his offensive philosophy go for explosive plays. The quick pass game is there and works; he just needs to be ok with long sustained drives. 

When you send six, especially when you overload a gap, guys will get through more often than not. But a good QB can read it and get rid of the ball or get out of there fast. 
 

Find it odd that when Arch finally started hitting the underneath guys for quick gains and first downs against Oh St our running game opened up?

9 minutes ago, HornsUpThumbsDown said:

Great to see hugs being exchanged mid-game… geez

According to some that’s Arch’s fault💀

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