OL Envy - visualized

[HookedOnTF]

Yes Sark and Arch could do their part to discourage DCs from a full frontal assault, but this sure is crazy to see:

[jbseamus83]

Geez. There's just no getting around how bad that is. Sad stuff.

[HookedOnTF]

Three out on a limb thoughts:
1) Is our DL too good for our OL's development? Even the DL twos are good enough that I wonder if they've broken the OL's confidence. Instead of developing, are the linemen spending every practice correcting mistakes? Iron sharpens aluminum?
2) Is the OL coach really the answer? Every time we've hired a "top 5 OL coach" since 2010, the result has been the same. Bill Bedenbaugh didn't forget how to coach either, and Oklahoma's line is struggling too. A big name college coach has to align with Sark, and an NFL OL coach might help with scheme and technique, but maybe not with developing 18-year-olds. So is it really as simple as firing Flood and throwing money at the next home-run hire with skins on the wall?
3) Is it strength? Becton has the team fast and well conditioned. The DL anchors well but doesn't really penetrate (bonus pts for big man tuddys), and the OL looks weak. A few years ago I think we brought Dana LeDuc back to work on strength. Is he still around? Is strength training part of the OL's struggle, or do they just not know what to do in live fire? 

[Aspann85]

We all know it but that doesn’t make it easier to look at on a spreadsheet. This needs to be papered all over the locker rooms, practice field, weight room, etc as a challenge to the OLine. It’s just simple pride that should be taking a hit…I couldn’t look at my teammates if this was me. I quit my sport because my heart wasn’t in it anymore and I wasn’t helping the team.

[HookedOnTF]

Btw, I included Oregon and Oklahoma specifically because they both fired their OCs...

[Guts]

Wow

[Shmatt]

36 minutes ago, HookedOnTF said:

Yes Sark and Arch could do their part to discourage DCs from a full frontal assault, but this sure is crazy to see:

And yet some folks still believe QB is the main issue😒

[Darrell Mynar]

Easy to see.  Replace Flood with a true OC & turn over play caller to him (Chip Kelly) and hire the Will Muschamp of Oline coaches to run the oline.  Call me crazy but whoever does strength & conditioning of oline needs replacing as well because our oline is worse now than any in last 25yrs.

[SB21]

54 minutes ago, HookedOnTF said:

Yes Sark and Arch could do their part to discourage DCs from a full frontal assault, but this sure is crazy to see:

Not saying we aren’t bad, cause we know we are on offense but who we have played compared to who Miami, ND, UCLA, BYU, Boise isn’t even close. 
 

 

[mmdaytontexas]

55 minutes ago, HookedOnTF said:

Three out on a limb thoughts:
1) Is our DL too good for our OL's development? Even the DL twos are good enough that I wonder if they've broken the OL's confidence. Instead of developing, are the linemen spending every practice correcting mistakes? Iron sharpens aluminum?
2) Is the OL coach really the answer? Every time we've hired a "top 5 OL coach" since 2010, the result has been the same. Bill Bedenbaugh didn't forget how to coach either, and Oklahoma's line is struggling too. A big name college coach has to align with Sark, and an NFL OL coach might help with scheme and technique, but maybe not with developing 18-year-olds. So is it really as simple as firing Flood and throwing money at the next home-run hire with skins on the wall?
3) Is it strength? Becton has the team fast and well conditioned. The DL anchors well but doesn't really penetrate (bonus pts for big man tuddys), and the OL looks weak. A few years ago I think we brought Dana LeDuc back to work on strength. Is he still around? Is strength training part of the OL's struggle, or do they just not know what to do in live fire? 

Dana is retired and living in Austin's Onion Creek for most of the Year. The summer he's in Seattle.

[Rocky P]

4 minutes ago, SB21 said:

Not saying we aren’t bad, cause we know we are on offense but who we have played compared to who Miami, ND, UCLA, BYU, Boise isn’t even close. 
 

 

Was about to say the same thing.  Wonder how good our Oline would look if we were playing some of these other teams scheduled.

[HookedOnTF]

2 minutes ago, SB21 said:

Not saying we aren’t bad, cause we know we are on offense but who we have played compared to who Miami, ND, UCLA, BYU, Boise isn’t even close. 
 

 

Yeah the underlying data is not opponent adjusted so I added some small weighting factors, but directionally it makes even more sense when you look at our offense vs the supposedly weaker defenses.

[HookedOnTF]

9 minutes ago, Rocky P said:

Was about to say the same thing.  Wonder how good our Oline would look if we were playing some of these other teams scheduled.

Sadly:

[HookedOnTF]

Almost screams effort, no?

+ how much the opponent watched film, and add in Goosby injury.

Edited 1 hour ago by HookedOnTF

[JMarquette]

1 hour ago, Shmatt said:

And yet some folks still believe QB is the main issue😒

@Gerry Hamilton care to explain this graphic and how this is Arch’s fault?

[NothinButDaHorns34]

Jesus! Just when i think my opinion on how bad our offensive line play is can’t get any worse i see sh*t like this. Who from the miami staff can we hire to be our offensive line coach? Cristobal seems to be an offensive lineman guru.

[hookem1014]

1 hour ago, HookedOnTF said:

Btw, I included Oregon and Oklahoma specifically because they both fired their OCs...

Those moves make me wonder how CDC handles the role (or lack thereof) after the season. I’d assume if Texas misses the CFP then Sark will be forced to hire someone which may not go over well. 

[Steamboat Willie]

If Flood goes, here’s who I’d look at:

• Bob Bostad, Indiana
• Joe Rudolph, Notre Dame
• Eman Naghavi, Houston
• Tim Keane, Boise
• Nic Cardwell, Cincinnati
• Jordan Shoemaker, Texas State
• Sam Pittman, if he wants to coach again
• Dwayne Ledford, Ravens
• Andy Kwon, Memphis
• Zach Hanson, USC

Bostad would be my first call. Houston’s Naghavi is one I probably overlooked. Keane at Boise deserves a look too.

No idea who would take it or who Sark would want. But looking at those numbers, I’m tired of hearing we just need bigger linemen or another recruiting class. We ought to be able to block Mississippi State.

[Hookem72]

This is even worse considering Miss State’s best dlineman was a transfer who couldnt get playing time with us. (Bledsoe)

[JurassicSark]

Kyle Flood is the boogeyman. 

[ArizonaLonghorn]

2 hours ago, HookedOnTF said:

3) Is it strength? Becton has the team fast and well conditioned. The DL anchors well but doesn't really penetrate (bonus pts for big man tuddys), and the OL looks weak. A few years ago I think we brought Dana LeDuc back to work on strength. Is he still around? Is strength training part of the OL's struggle, or do they just not know what to do in live fire? 

Seems like at the NFL Combine we do well at the speed tests, but I think I remember on a strength test (like say bench press reps at 220 lbs) we performed relatively poorly.

This is just anecdotal (I remember a couple of eye popping low bench numbers) - does anyone have any real data to back this up, or disprove it?

[tsip92]

And this is why the chances of winning out are negligible. 

[HookemFromOkc]

Sark is dumb for not firing Flood after last season. 

Literally the worst O line in the country.

Boise has a better line. Pathetic.