Lavalulu Posted May 21 Posted May 21 With the 12 team CFP scheme (and perhaps 16 in the future) doesn’t this give Notre Dame Football a distinctly easier path to the CFP?? ND determines their own game schedule. This is the only football team allowed to decide who their opponent will be every year. ND will no longer be playing rival USC every year…but will continue to play against weaker rival Stanford every year, for example. I’m not even going to go into ND’s exclusive deal with NBC. I just think ND, by having the ability to give itself a favorable schedule every year, now has an easy path EVERY YEAR because of the 12 team CFP scheme. I don’t think ND could play in the SEC and survive to compete in CFP… yes, it’s legal, but is it fair??? 2 Quote
Thanos72 Posted May 21 Posted May 21 Only concerned with Texas. We chose to join a tough league so now we need to win it. We do, we’re in. 1 Quote
Moderators Gerry Hamilton Posted May 21 Moderators Posted May 21 I have been saying no. Don't think they should be, but doesn't mean they won't remain independent. 6 Quote
GDI Posted May 21 Posted May 21 Mark me down as being against it. I'm afraid SOS is going to mean less & less with the expanded schedule and there is already talk of going to 16. I would rather have 8, but good luck with that happening. Make 'em play a conference schedule. 1 Quote
TheContractor12 Posted May 21 Posted May 21 SOS needs to be a part of the process. If it is then yes but ND has an easier schedule than many teams. As it it right now, not at all. They have the easiest path the playoffs. NO. Quote
Hashtag Posted May 21 Posted May 21 1 hour ago, Gerry Hamilton said: I have been saying no. Don't think they should be, but doesn't mean they won't remain independent. For the immediate future I agree but we all know where CFB is going and they will be forced too soon enough. 1 Quote
Aspann85 Posted May 21 Posted May 21 7 hours ago, Lavalulu said: With the 12 team CFP scheme (and perhaps 16 in the future) doesn’t this give Notre Dame Football a distinctly easier path to the CFP?? ND determines their own game schedule. This is the only football team allowed to decide who their opponent will be every year. ND will no longer be playing rival USC every year…but will continue to play against weaker rival Stanford every year, for example. I’m not even going to go into ND’s exclusive deal with NBC. I just think ND, by having the ability to give itself a favorable schedule every year, now has an easy path EVERY YEAR because of the 12 team CFP scheme. I don’t think ND could play in the SEC and survive to compete in CFP… yes, it’s legal, but is it fair??? They just added a 10 year agreement with Clemson who is light years beyond USC over the last decade. Quote
Dallas90 Posted May 21 Posted May 21 I don't like them and I don't like the unnecessary complication they always seem to pose by being an independent, but I can't say I'm in favor of forcing them to join a conference. A patsy schedule is its own penalty in several ways. Quote
Moderators CJ Vogel Posted May 21 Moderators Posted May 21 Get 'em in a conference. It's time. 6 Quote
qaertyisthatdude Posted May 21 Posted May 21 3 hours ago, Thanos72 said: Only concerned with Texas. We chose to join a tough league so now we need to win it. We do, we’re in. Notre Dame employs potentially Texas' next HC if Sark goes to the NFL in a few years and the timing is right. You never know. Quote
GoHorns1 Posted May 21 Posted May 21 No, ND needs to play by the rules as everyone else and join one of the Power 4 conferences. ND is member of the ACC in all sports except football. Quote
Thanos72 Posted May 21 Posted May 21 (edited) If Texas were independent, none of you would want to be forced into a conference. That’s not why I don’t care what ND does. At some point, an overly weak schedule will have a negative impact as someone said. I can’t see a world where a sec team has 1 loss and a weakly scheduled undefeated ND is chosen over them especially if the loss was to a strong opponent. Or if it did happen, that would be the rock that corrects the ripple. This is a dye in wool May topic. 🤘🏽 Edited May 21 by Thanos72 1 Quote
Jarveaux Posted May 21 Posted May 21 4 hours ago, Gerry Hamilton said: I have been saying no. Don't think they should be, but doesn't mean they won't remain independent. I honestly don’t believe they should be independent. If ND remains independent who monitors there nil ? They don’t have to answer for their potential future misdeeds. Quote
Tuco Ramirez Posted May 21 Posted May 21 The SEC and B1G need to mandate a requirement for SOS in determining playoff eligibility with a team losing a conference championship given priority over a team that doesn’t even play in one. SOS should also have priority over polls voted on by idiot sportswriters. That’ll have ND on the outside looking in in many cases. They’ll self correct after they’ve been snubbed a few times. Quote
Oldest Horn Posted May 21 Posted May 21 25 minutes ago, Jarveaux said: I honestly don’t believe they should be independent. If ND remains independent who monitors there nil ? They don’t have to answer for their potential future misdeeds. That would imply each conference governs itself. No way that happens. Quote
Jarveaux Posted May 21 Posted May 21 7 minutes ago, Oldest Horn said: That would imply each conference governs itself. No way that happens. Never say never . 1 Quote
dentonhorn Posted May 21 Posted May 21 Yes but I am old and preferred the old days better than this stuff. PennState used to independent too and I thought it was kind of cool. 1 Quote
Hornmatic Posted May 21 Posted May 21 (edited) 12 minutes ago, dentonhorn said: Yes but I am old and preferred the old days better than this stuff. PennState used to independent too and I thought it was kind of cool. Yep, Miami, FSU, BYU too. I’m in favor of more independents. Too much whinging on here. Edited May 21 by Hornmatic 2 Quote
Oldest Horn Posted May 21 Posted May 21 1 hour ago, Jarveaux said: Never say never . You really think the B10 and SEC, just to name two, will trust each other to self enforce? Quote
Roysterr Posted May 21 Posted May 21 They lost to a horrible team at home and still made it in last year. Quote
Ace Recruiter Posted May 21 Posted May 21 Fair? No, but when is life fair? I think they should be in a conference, but them not having the ability to get a 1st round bye makes it a bit better. 1 Quote
CHorn427 Posted May 21 Posted May 21 I'm alright with it. Tough competition in the regular season prepares you for the postseason. Few to zero teams win national titles without being challenged during the regular season. If ND isn't adequately challenged, they will eventually flame out in the post season. Quote
Thanos72 Posted May 21 Posted May 21 2 hours ago, Roysterr said: They lost to a horrible team at home and still made it in last year. You want to fix the committee, not the independent status. The right committee handles anyone’s weak schedule. Quote
Bobby Burton Posted May 21 Posted May 21 They should be able to do whatever they want. If I were the CFB commissioner… 4 Quote
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