OTF Premium Reshuffling on the OL (Monday 1:50 p.m.)

[HornPharmD12]

FYI you can “ignore” a user by clicking the top right, followed by “account” and then “ignored users.” 
 

took me a minute to find, hopefully everyone will find this useful 

[tfoster40]

9 minutes ago, HornPharmD12 said:

FYI you can “ignore” a user by clicking the top right, followed by “account” and then “ignored users.” 
 

took me a minute to find, hopefully everyone will find this useful 

but than we will miss out on some great info from all the practices that he/she gets invited to all the time!!!🤣

[Assistant Regional Manager]

43 minutes ago, Bunk Moreland said:

I completely agree with this. I can’t believe Sark allowed it to come to this. Flood’s recruiting and development since that 2022 class have simply not been good enough. 

Can we, like, I don't know....see a game played first?

He is one of the best OL coaches in the country, was employed by Nick Saban for multiple years, coached in the NFL, is putting guys in the NFL at a rate we haven't seen in almost 2 decades and is recruiting fine. He messed up by not adding another tackle body in the 2023 or 2024 classes. He ain't perfect and for all we know, that choice was made above his pay grade. 

OL is the hardest position for services to evaluate and rank (hi, 3-star Trevor Goosby and Cam Williams, meet 4-star Payton Kirkland) and is also on the longest developmental timeline.

This isn't even a 'trust the coaches' post. It's just stupid to see the results he has had after wandering through the O-Line desert for almost 15 years and saying stuff like the development "simply has not been good enough" on August 18th, coming off a season where they were runner-up for the Joe Moore Award.

[4thandFive]

43 minutes ago, Joe Zura said:

That’s my thought as well but I’m also a idiot 

The first step is admitting it.

 

Welcome to the club. 

[Bunk Moreland]

4 minutes ago, Assistant Regional Manager said:

Can we, like, I don't know....see a game played first?

He is one of the best OL coaches in the country, was employed by Nick Saban for multiple years, coached in the NFL, is putting guys in the NFL at a rate we haven't seen in almost 2 decades and is recruiting fine. He messed up by not adding another tackle body in the 2023 or 2024 classes. He ain't perfect and for all we know, that choice was made above his pay grade. 

OL is the hardest position for services to evaluate and rank (hi, 3-star Trevor Goosby and Cam Williams, meet 4-star Payton Kirkland) and is also on the longest developmental timeline.

This isn't even a 'trust the coaches' post. It's just stupid to see the results he has had after wandering through the O-Line desert for almost 15 years and saying stuff like the development "simply has not been good enough" on August 18th, coming off a season where they were runner-up for the Joe Moore Award.

That’s totally fair. I would be happy to eat my words. But Sark himself said that he was more concerned about OL depth than anything else on his roster. You’d think that wouldn’t be an issue in the portal era. But, hey, I hope they go out and assuage all my doubts. 

[alrightalrightalright]

6 minutes ago, Assistant Regional Manager said:

Can we, like, I don't know....see a game played first?

He is one of the best OL coaches in the country, was employed by Nick Saban for multiple years, coached in the NFL, is putting guys in the NFL at a rate we haven't seen in almost 2 decades and is recruiting fine. He messed up by not adding another tackle body in the 2023 or 2024 classes. He ain't perfect and for all we know, that choice was made above his pay grade. 

OL is the hardest position for services to evaluate and rank (hi, 3-star Trevor Goosby and Cam Williams, meet 4-star Payton Kirkland) and is also on the longest developmental timeline.

This isn't even a 'trust the coaches' post. It's just stupid to see the results he has had after wandering through the O-Line desert for almost 15 years and saying stuff like the development "simply has not been good enough" on August 18th, coming off a season where they were runner-up for the Joe Moore Award.

I believe Bunk’s post was sarcasm. But I, like Joe Z said, could be an idiot

Edit: I am an idiot

Edited 4 hours ago by alrightalrightalright

[A-10HORN]

28 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I, along with a small set of a few others, have put my time, intellect, money and personal risk on the line to help Sarkisian turn this program around while most everyone else sat back and did nothing but offer the trusty ol' "thoughts and prayers" maneuver, almost certainly you included. 

I was not a fan of the hire in 2021. It didn't stop me from fundamentally helping the dude and the program, and I did so while most everyone sat back and did absolutely nothing to help turn things around. Go play your "nanny nanny boo boo, I'm a better fan than you!" card with someone else or maybe just dump it from your repertoire. It's a lousy forum trope in the first place.

Personal risk?  That’s impressive man. Thanks

[closetojumping]

22 minutes ago, pinkman_90 said:

Oh the irony of this post.  Love it when the biggest fraud on Texas message boards slips up.  

The only irony here is you not having a clue about what you think you're mocking. 

3 minutes ago, A-10HORN said:

Personal risk?  That’s impressive man. Thanks

I don't follow posting styles on this site much, but if you're serious, yes, thanks. If not, so be it. 

[Assistant Regional Manager]

10 minutes ago, Bunk Moreland said:

That’s totally fair. I would be happy to eat my words. But Sark himself said that he was more concerned about OL depth than anything else on his roster. You’d think that wouldn’t be an issue in the portal era. But, hey, I hope they go out and assuage all my doubts. 

Any team that loses its swing tackle in the first week of camp is going to be concerned about their depth. That isn't something you plan for all offseason.

[ArizonaLonghorn]

2 hours ago, closetojumping said:

b) telling someone to go kill themself ["go ahead and jump"] is at a minimum poor form and likely a violation of the site’s TOS. 

Pretty sure he figured you'd only be jumping from a bed or couch, onto a pillow or other soft landing spot.  Worse case maybe an ankle sprain.

No need to go all drama queen on us ... if he tells you "go kill yourself" then you'd have a point.  That would be mean.

[Here for the Wins]

And if you lose a swing T, there’s a damn good chance the next man up is a first or second year guy (meaning 3rd team guy to 4th T).  Or a dude you never expect to see the field.

[closetojumping]

11 minutes ago, pinkman_90 said:

Oh I know exactly what I’m mocking.  Been laughing at you for years.  Nobody better at trying to back track lies while still claiming superiority over all.  
 

That’s why it’s ironic when you write a paragraph claiming you are better than everyone on this site and then follow that up with “drop that from your repertoire”

Like I said, you have no clue. You've now called me a liar and fraud, however, without anything to support that. I don't get the personal attacks since I don't recall ever encountering your handle, but that kind of crap is more spineless forum behavior, for which you appear to excel. 

13 minutes ago, ArizonaLonghorn said:

Pretty sure he figured you'd only be jumping from a bed or couch, onto a pillow or other soft landing spot.  Worse case maybe an ankle sprain.

No need to go all drama queen on us ... if he tells you "go kill yourself" then you'd have a point.  That would be mean.

I don't really care if he really wanted me to kill myself or not. The mere act of telling someone to do so, however soft or indirect, is pathetic nonetheless. 

 

[closetojumping]

1 minute ago, pinkman_90 said:

“But I’m the guy who helped with burnt ends.  Did you hear me?  Burnt Ends!”

CTJ says as he fades into obscurity.  

Like I said, you have no clue, and you just proved it. That remains the only irony here. 

[pinkman_90]

9 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Like I said, you have no clue, and you just proved it. That remains the only irony here. 

Nobody less important has ever tried harder to make anonymous people think they’re more important.  I’ll give you that.  

[HDub1995]

53 minutes ago, Bunk Moreland said:

That’s totally fair. I would be happy to eat my words. But Sark himself said that he was more concerned about OL depth than anything else on his roster. You’d think that wouldn’t be an issue in the portal era. But, hey, I hope they go out and assuage all my doubts. 

I get what you’re saying. But I also think solid OTs in the portal are a dime a dozen these days. And if in there, the price is hefty. Not an easy thing to just go and grab a quality guy there

[marathon]

31 minutes ago, Here for the Wins said:

And if you lose a swing T, there’s a damn good chance the next man up is a first or second year guy (meaning 3rd team guy to 4th T).  Or a dude you never expect to see the field.

Exactly.

Last year we lost 2 RB’s in the first couple of days of fall practice and we were extremely thin at RB the entire season.

This year Goosby has an injury of some sort and our swing tackle is lost for the season so we are down to our 4th and 5th options at OT until Goosby is healthy. And our starting RT saw limited action last season as a true freshman.

Like CJ said we are manufacturing depth with our top OL. In case of emergency, BREAK GLASS.

 

 

[Bunk Moreland]

2 minutes ago, HDub1995 said:

I get what you’re saying. But I also think solid OTs in the portal are a dime a dozen these days. And if in there, the price is hefty. Not an easy thing to just go and grab a quality guy there

No doubt. I also get that OL development is always a bit unpredictable and usually takes years. But IMO Flood has recruited too many projects and not enough elite prospects. It’s not all his fault—they clearly desperately wanted Fasusi last year, for instance. But the chickens have come home to roost a bit. As solid as OL recruiting has been under Sark, the difference between solid and elite very well could mean the difference between winning it all and not.

[pinkman_90]

Remember, the guy saying we’re all idiots while also calling out CJ is the one who brought us gold like this:

“Banks and Sarkisian are basically trying to run the entire show when it comes to recruiting, to the point of limiting access for position coaches with their position targets. Sounds really ****** weird.

Harris has provided consistently dated and/or clueless intel from the recruits’ camp side and is just basically an order taker otherwise.

Texas lost a talented scout that they haven’t replaced and they lost a talented roster management/personnel guy that they arrogantly decided to not really replace by instead promoting an unqualified yes man.

This predicament is entirely of Sarkisian’s making. He’s going to have to fix it soon as there is more bad news looming.”

[Tim Longoria]

3 hours ago, HDub1995 said:

 

Not me. Dude should do a flip already lol

[Tim Longoria]

1 minute ago, Tim Longoria said:

Not me. Dude should do a flip already lol

Hypothetically, of course

[GoHorns1]

13 minutes ago, HDub1995 said:

I get what you’re saying. But I also think solid OTs in the portal are a dime a dozen these days. And if in there, the price is hefty. Not an easy thing to just go and grab a quality guy there

Solid OT’s aren’t a dime a dozen in the portal that’s BS.

[HDub1995]

11 minutes ago, Bunk Moreland said:

No doubt. I also get that OL development is always a bit unpredictable and usually takes years. But IMO Flood has recruited too many projects and not enough elite prospects. It’s not all his fault—they clearly desperately wanted Fasusi last year, for instance. But the chickens have come home to roost a bit. As solid as OL recruiting has been under Sark, the difference between solid and elite very well could mean the difference between winning it all and not.

Fair point. Will be interesting to see it play out!

[Immamac]

38 minutes ago, pinkman_90 said:

“But I’m the guy who helped with burnt ends.  Did you hear me?  Burnt Ends!”

CTJ says as he fades into obscurity.  

My favorite Burnt Ends story ever is when Ja'Tavion Sanders was answering questions about NIL deals he had and he was like yeah a few but the biggest one is this BBQ place Burnt Ends. 

This is after homeboy had been on the payroll for over a full season, had met me and a lot of the donors and had gone through orientation twice. 

Wait, what are we talking about here? I hear the ledge is quite nice... Maybe join me there? 

 

[LonghornFan4Ever]

19 minutes ago, Bunk Moreland said:

No doubt. I also get that OL development is always a bit unpredictable and usually takes years. But IMO Flood has recruited too many projects and not enough elite prospects. It’s not all his fault—they clearly desperately wanted Fasusi last year, for instance. But the chickens have come home to roost a bit. As solid as OL recruiting has been under Sark, the difference between solid and elite very well could mean the difference between winning it all and not.

For me, I just want to see if the OL that they trot out there is improved in run blocking, especially at LG-C-RG.  Part of what made Robinson and Johnson so special at Texas was their ability to create their own running lanes.  However there were several times they had to shed a tackle right away to gain positive yards.  Same thing with Brooks before he got hurt a couple of years ago.  To be fair, the OL has shown glimpses of what it could be in run blocking (2022 Baylor game, end of the 2023 Bama game, OU, Kentucky, A&M, and Clemson last season) but just want to see more consistency in that regard.  Eventually you want them to resemble the OLs of the early to mid 2000s.

The pass pro has improved every year Flood has been here, and that seems to be the strength of his coaching, but the run blocking has not progressed at the same rate imo.  Maybe with the last few players from the Herb Hand era gone and all of Flood’s guys there, you’ll see his unit become great at both.  Hopefully, they’ll start to see the fruits of their labor this season.

Edited 3 hours ago by LonghornFan4Ever

[Assistant Regional Manager]

12 minutes ago, GoHorns1 said:

Solid OT’s aren’t a dime a dozen in the portal that’s BS.

The guy Ohio State took from Rice that was considered one of the best in the portal looks like he isn’t even going to win a starting job.

It is a tough way to make a living. Might be the hardest position to recruit in the portal.

Edited 3 hours ago by Assistant Regional Manager