OTF Premium Reshuffling on the OL (Monday 1:50 p.m.)

[GDI]

8 hours ago, Bobby Burton said:

Fighting against one another feels counter-productive.

**

“closetojumping” helped Texas at a time of immense need, at a time when too many Texas boosters sat on the sidelines either waiting to see exactly how NIL would play out or too many didn’t know or understand that there were serious obstacles to athletic success, football in particular, building.

The inaction or lack of understanding was resulting in Texas ceding ground in every way possible to Texas A&M in football. The Aggies had embraced NIL before it was legal IMO.

That all seems like a distant memory now. But it felt like -and was IMO - an existential crisis then.

In what remains one of the most classic Aggie things of all time, Jimbo truly screwed up a 20-mile lead in a marathon.

Back to my point:

CTJ, alongside others, was fundamental into the formation of what eventually would become the Texas One Fund.

He put his butt on the line (and his money) for virtually no reward other than the desire to see Texas win. He did that long before most folks started chipping in. He also leveraged more than just his financial acumen to do that. I know this because I saw it and witnessed it first hand.

**

So when I see one of CTJ’s posts and he takes on me, or CJ, Rod, Jeff or Gerry, I don’t really flinch. I accept it, think about it and then move on. He’s coming from a place where he cares about Texas football as much as any of us.

That may be true but he's still the most annoying,  arrogant and for sure not as clever a poster on these boards as he thinks he is.   

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[.45s]

Blocking someone is your friend.  Done.

[Here for the Wins]

7 hours ago, Bobby Burton said:

 

- In retrospect, they could have used another tackle in the portal IMO.

 

 

Well, sure, in retrospect.

From a fans perspective, there are some limiting factors regarding our knowledge.  NIL.  They had a good grasp on the two deep.  So how much cash do you have for that extra guy?  It’d also seem a guy like Agbo is a type you could get.  Was he flat out told there’s no room or did he not like the options?

The past two years we’ve played basically six guys until injuries hit.  We’re not willingly reaching into our depth.  Outside of QB, we use backups in all places but Oline.  We’ve largely operated with 7 guys the past two years.  Similar for 3 and 4 years ago.  The 3rd Tackle, the 3rd Guard are likely to operate either on the right or left side.  In the 4 years, we haven’t gone more than 8 deep to speak of.  I’d wager this staff has had few years in which they go deeper and rarely hit that 11th guy.

If you’re a transfer and aren’t one of the top 3, you aren’t getting much playing time.  If you’re an upperclassman and sitting down the depth chart, you will struggle to ever see the field in future years particularly if we have younger guys in front of you.  If you can’t offer playing time or presumably cash, what are you offering to incentivize a guy to provide depth?  And you haven’t gotten to the discussion point that your freshman lineman that you believe are the future are slowed from a development standpoint because their reps are more limited.

Options are going to be limited.  Resources and opportunities limited.  And it may impact your roster in a negative sense for guys you believe have a better future.  The depth people desire probably hasn’t existed since scholarships became limited.

[Synergyman70]

How is Daniel Cruz looking?

[pinkman_90]

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Edited 2 hours ago by pinkman_90

[pinkman_90]

9 hours ago, Bobby Burton said:

Fighting against one another feels counter-productive.

**

“closetojumping” helped Texas at a time of immense need, at a time when too many Texas boosters sat on the sidelines either waiting to see exactly how NIL would play out or too many didn’t know or understand that there were serious obstacles to athletic success, football in particular, building.

The inaction or lack of understanding was resulting in Texas ceding ground in every way possible to Texas A&M in football. The Aggies had embraced NIL before it was legal IMO.

That all seems like a distant memory now. But it felt like -and was IMO - an existential crisis then.

In what remains one of the most classic Aggie things of all time, Jimbo truly screwed up a 20-mile lead in a marathon.

Back to my point:

CTJ, alongside others, was fundamental into the formation of what eventually would become the Texas One Fund.

He put his butt on the line (and his money) for virtually no reward other than the desire to see Texas win. He did that long before most folks started chipping in. He also leveraged more than just his financial acumen to do that. I know this because I saw it and witnessed it first hand.

**

So when I see one of CTJ’s posts and he takes on me, or CJ, Rod, Jeff or Gerry, I don’t really flinch. I accept it, think about it and then move on. He’s coming from a place where he cares about Texas football as much as any of us.

Woof, Bobby.  You’re a better man than I for taking the high road when the biggest loser in town strolls through.  

[Joe Naural]

Im thinking Collins.. Trey …Spence… Burke…Vasek .. are weeding out .. determining who is Ready… whose not ready for OT. 
 

simple … trial by fire… !

 

[MBHORNSFAN]

This a big nothing burger. 

[Sundancekid]

1 hour ago, GDI said:

That may be true but he's still the most annoying,  arrogant and for sure not as clever a poster on these boards as he thinks he is.   

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  He also frequently shares articles from here on Surly Horns. I’m surprised you guys allow this. Do mods look the other way because he has affluence and influence? He’s been doing this for years.

[HookemChappy]

13 hours ago, closetojumping said:

Just to be clear, do you think I was wrong here?  Or uninformed?

You probably also thought Goosby was a loser who was just backing up Banks and we should have gone out to the portal to have an experienced back behind him. Oh and btw Goosby also played RT and could have come in at guard because there is this little thing Flood does in practice called cross training. You also have most likely not considered that Flood is putting Neto in the spot to understand "if" he can play LT in an emergency situation. That is what practice is for. If he had to go to his 4th Tackle option during a game, should it be Neto or one of the freshmen? Tackles: Goosby, Baker, Brooks, Neto/Chatman?

You are probably correct in hindsight about getting Pregnon. I don't know if he was really an option or not. At the time, I'm assuming the staff was prioritizing other players and were comfortable with the depth we had. 

Edited 1 hour ago by HookemChappy
better language

[closetojumping]

14 minutes ago, HookemChappy said:

You probably also thought Goosby was a loser who was just backing up Banks and we should have gone out to the portal to have an experienced back behind him. Oh and btw Goosby also played RT and could have come in at guard because there is this little thing Flood does in practice called cross training. You also have most likely not considered that Flood is putting Neto in the spot to understand "if" he can play LT in an emergency situation. That is what practice is for. If he had to go to his 4th Tackle option during a game, should it be Neto or one of the freshmen? Tackles: Goosby, Baker, Brooks, Neto/Chatman?

You are probably correct in hindsight about getting Pregnon. I don't know if he was really an option or not. At the time, I'm assuming the staff was prioritizing other players and were comfortable with the depth we had. 

I don't know why you quoted me here.

-I've never been a big fan of the portal for OL help. There is not a post of mine on the Internet since Sarkisian's arrival where I've stated that Texas should go big in the portal. 

-I liked the Goosby take at the time due to his athleticism and the fact that that class was going to have trouble landing a 5 star OT with Banks already starting as a freshman.

-I don't think I've ever typed the name "Pregnon" on this site until right now. Texas kicked the tires on him but Oregon was willing to pay starter money and it didn't make a lot of sense for Texas to do anything there. 

Portal talk about the OL is all hindsight nonsense. Flood doesn't want to build via patchwork from random G5s, FCS and P4 backups. There aren't a ton of good starting OL in the portal and those that are there cost an arm and a leg. 

If folks want to level a criticism at Flood, it's not taking enough OLs in the past few cycles. I'm not one of those people saying that, but I understand the logic coming from folks.

I'm not some boogieman here, wishing ill will on the program or running down coaches. You guys think you sense a whiff of criticism at a coach or staff and y'all lose your minds. It's absurd.

In any event, I got my question answered, if not from the original guy here with the story. Goosby's injury is something to watch for the OSU game. Can he play through the pain and then heal up before UF? Or is there going to be patchwork without him? Either way, it's not nothing and he could very well miss a lot more time than "the next few practices". 

[pinkman_90]

4 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I don't know why you quoted me here.

-I've never been a big fan of the portal for OL help. There is not a post of mine on the Internet since Sarkisian's arrival where I've stated that Texas should go big in the portal. 

-I liked the Goosby take at the time due to his athleticism and the fact that that class was going to have trouble landing a 5 star OT with Banks already starting as a freshman.

-I don't think I've ever typed the name "Pregnon" on this site until right now. Texas kicked the tires on him but Oregon was willing to pay starter money and it didn't make a lot of sense for Texas to do anything there. 

Portal talk about the OL is all hindsight nonsense. Flood doesn't want to build via patchwork from random G5s, FCS and P4 backups. There aren't a ton of good starting OL in the portal and those that are there cost an arm and a leg. 

If folks want to level a criticism at Flood, it's not taking enough OLs in the past few cycles. I'm not one of those people saying that, but I understand the logic coming from folks.

I'm not some boogieman here, wishing ill will on the program or running down coaches. You guys think you sense a whiff of criticism at a coach or staff and y'all lose your minds. It's absurd.

In any event, I got my question answered, if not from the original guy here with the story. Goosby's injury is something to watch for the OSU game. Can he play through the pain and then heal up before UF? Or is there going to be patchwork without him? Either way, it's not nothing and he could very well miss a lot more time than "the next few practices". 

I’m the furthest thing from a “trust the coaches” person.  I just don’t like you.  Wanted to clear that up.  

[drag worm]

10 hours ago, Bobby Burton said:

Fighting against one another feels counter-productive.

**

“closetojumping” helped Texas at a time of immense need, at a time when too many Texas boosters sat on the sidelines either waiting to see exactly how NIL would play out or too many didn’t know or understand that there were serious obstacles to athletic success, football in particular, building.

The inaction or lack of understanding was resulting in Texas ceding ground in every way possible to Texas A&M in football. The Aggies had embraced NIL before it was legal IMO.

That all seems like a distant memory now. But it felt like -and was IMO - an existential crisis then.

In what remains one of the most classic Aggie things of all time, Jimbo truly screwed up a 20-mile lead in a marathon.

Back to my point:

CTJ, alongside others, was fundamental into the formation of what eventually would become the Texas One Fund.

He put his butt on the line (and his money) for virtually no reward other than the desire to see Texas win. He did that long before most folks started chipping in. He also leveraged more than just his financial acumen to do that. I know this because I saw it and witnessed it first hand.

**

So when I see one of CTJ’s posts and he takes on me, or CJ, Rod, Jeff or Gerry, I don’t really flinch. I accept it, think about it and then move on. He’s coming from a place where he cares about Texas football as much as any of us.

Amen. Had a drink with CTJ in New Orleans prior to the Washington game and it was fun tracing back the 20 years of message boards together. We’re all on the same team. Hook’em. 

[closetojumping]

1 minute ago, pinkman_90 said:

I’m the furthest thing from a “trust the coaches” person.  I just don’t like you.  Wanted to clear that up.  

Your antagonism here is just bandwidth drain at this point. The rest of the board doesn't care.. Show the therapist on the doll where you think I may have touched you and things will eventually get better. For me, you're now on ignore and I'm happy living with the idea that "pinkman_90" doesn't like me and really needs me to know that. 

[HDub1995]

On another note, I know it’s been mentioned the staff loves Cruz. Is he just not ready at this point? I was hoping he would be the starter at C this year based on reviews of him last season. 

[Red Five]

1 minute ago, HDub1995 said:

On another note, I know it’s been mentioned the staff loves Cruz. Is he just not ready at this point? I was hoping he would be the starter at C this year based on reviews of him last season. 

It feels like he's been around longer than he has. He's only a redshirt freshman. 

[pinkman_90]

11 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Your antagonism here is just bandwidth drain at this point. The rest of the board doesn't care.. Show the therapist on the doll where you think I may have touched you and things will eventually get better. For me, you're now on ignore and I'm happy living with the idea that "pinkman_90" doesn't like me and really needs me to know that. 

The main longhorns message board antagonist is tired of being antagonized.  Such a shame.  I’ll wear your ignore like a badge of honor. No longer just a fraud but a soft fraud.  

Edited 23 minutes ago by pinkman_90