Rank these six teams after the last two days

[harveycmd]

8 minutes ago, CHorn427 said:

7-0 vs Ohio State in Columbus through 3 quarters isn’t the same thing that happened in Ames in 2015. Also, football is a 4 quarter game, so the “through 3 quarters” stuff is bs. Arch had 170 through 4 quarters. That 4th quarter wasn’t garbage time. A key mantra in football is the 4th quarter is the most important quarter. Let’s not forget that when trying to make a guy’s stats look worse than they wound up being at the final. 

You’re being overly doom and gloom about losing a one possession game on the road while outgaining your proposed #1 team in the country by over 100 yds. 

The partial game stats comparison needs context. As Gerry himself pointed out, Patricia didn't "decide" to let Texas run all over them in the third quarter. Day didn't want to let Texas have a chance to tie the game late. 

[Waxahorn]

I believe the rankings should not come out until the middle of the season. The rankings as of now are meaningless.

[CHorn427]

Ohio State

Miami

LSU

Texas

Notre Dame

Clemson

Arch Manning will correct the issues he was having with easy completions. He is a better QB than the Carr guy. Texas also probably has the best defense in the country. Wisner looks like he will run for 1000 yds again this season and looks like we can get 500+ at least from Baxter. I could see both of them going for 1000+, honestly 

[CHorn427]

5 minutes ago, harveycmd said:

The partial game stats comparison needs context. As Gerry himself pointed out, Patricia didn't "decide" to let Texas run all over them in the third quarter. Day didn't want to let Texas have a chance to tie the game late. 

The partial game stats just need to stop. I can see discounting 4th quarter stats if the 4th quarter wasn’t garbage time. It wasn’t. Ask Ohio State fans if they felt comfortable with Texas on the 50 with 2 minutes left. I wouldn’t have been.

Honestly, I think I would rather have a guy in Arch’s position start slow and get stronger as the game went on, which is what happened. That tells me it was nerves and the guy is a gamer at heart. Starting fast and then fading is more alarming. 

Edited 3 hours ago by CHorn427

[CHorn427]

I’m putting a lot of stock in Miami- Cristobal is an OL guy and their OL looks good, good WRs that can catch the ball, good defense, Beck looks back to 2023 form now that his receivers don’t have alligator arms. As long as they never have to kneel the ball this year they should be good.

[CHorn427]

What I think the actual rankings will be:

OSU

PSU

UGA

LSU

Miami

Notre Dame

Texas

Oregon (might be ahead of Texas)

South Carolina

Clemson

 

 

[harveycmd]

12 minutes ago, CHorn427 said:

What I think the actual rankings will be:

OSU

PSU

UGA

LSU

Miami

Notre Dame

Texas

Oregon (might be ahead of Texas)

South Carolina

Clemson

 

 

I can't see ND ahead of Texas. There's a big difference between OSU and Miami. Miami's defense isn't a high level defense. 

Ohio State

Penn State

Georgia

LSU

Texas

Miami

Oregon

Clemson

Notre Dame

Arizona State

 

Watched Gerry's boy Leavitt. He didn't exactly look like a world beater to me. 

[DanielOnorato]

1 hour ago, Gerry Hamilton said:

How would you rank them?

LSU

OHio State

Miami

Notre Dame 

Clemson 

Texas 

For weekly poll 

Ohio State

LSU

Miami

Texas

Clemson

Notre.Dame

 

Long term this season

Texas 

Ohio state

LSU

Clemson

Notre Dame

Miami

[GDI]

1 hour ago, Gerry Hamilton said:

How would you rank them?

LSU

OHio State

Miami

Notre Dame 

Clemson 

Texas 

Ohio State

LSU

MiamI

Clemson

Notre Dame

Texas (right now our QB isn't good-Expect him to improve as season goes on)

[DanielOnorato]

6 minutes ago, GDI said:

Ohio State

LSU

MiamI

Clemson

Notre Dame

Texas (right now our QB isn't good-Expect him to improve as season goes on)

I feel in a way this loss is best case for Arch considering he was the let down. The boys played well around him. I think it lights a fire and alleviates the pressure to a degree. It elevates it to win but lessens it for a Heisman.  Let him take live reps and grow so his next big game he's ready. I thought he would have been ready entering year three but sometimes you're too ready. You want it too much and you press to show who and what you are so quickly you lose sight and track of what actually makes you an asset. That's life experience, growth etc. He settled in a bit and that deep layered throw to Endries was like Peyton. 

I was pissed and frustrated watching the game but with Gods grace a night of sleep allowed me to see the big picture. This is a damn well rounded football team and Arch is his own worst critic, he will be a big time player for this University. 

[whereiend]

In the analytical power rankings (e.g FPI and SP+) we're going to move *up* after the game vs OSU. We significantly out gained them not only in total yards but also per-play. We lost because of a few 4th downs and penalties, which an analytics person would call bad luck.

I do think Arch obviously has to play much better but the team around is pretty damn well positioned. And we have 3 weeks of patsies to tune up the passing game on.

Personally I'd put us #2 of this group. Neither Clemson nor LSU was particularly great last year, so I'm not a believer on them yet. Remember how pathetic that Clemson defense was? Notre Dame lost a lot and doesn't recruit like OSU and Texas. Do we really believe Miami has a good defense now, or was ND just a bit limited themselves?

We'll see how it plays out.

Edited 59 minutes ago by whereiend