Kyle Flood has got to go

[AusMOJO]

1 minute ago, MrWytee said:

There is a whole lot of yall that grade out poorly as fans.... At some point, the constant bitching about winning has got to stop..... hook'em 

Yet you came in here to talk trash yourself on people sharing their opinions on a forum for Texas fans. Maybe people telling others that they aren't allowed to share their opinions on a forum, should stop?

 

[Here for the Wins]

11 minutes ago, AusMOJO said:

Yet we're not talking about Ohio State, are we? We're talking about teams that defensively, aren't very good. Why would I watch anyone else as intently or with fervor? I only care about Texas. The fact is, when watching them, you can see the problems. It's that simple. 

 

Evaluate to a theoretical standard that doesn’t exist.  How do you develop a baseline of what is poor, average or great line play?  Yeah, I get it, the eye test.

The reference to Ohio State was that some teams have played 3 games, some 4.  We are top 3rd in pass blocking, top half in run blocking  per PFF.  Each player is graded to a standard.  I’m not sure that is measured relative to opponents strength but I’d assume not.

Now mix this with some FEI rankings.  The relative strength of the defenses we’ve played to date says that’s the 32rd toughest defensive schedule.  Our OFEI is 22nd.  There are exactly two offenses higher than ours currently that have faced a tougher defensive schedule.  Those two are Ohio State and Miami.

Obviously, all this will play out over time.  This early in the season the problems vary from week to week and won’t necessarily correlate to the next game. Some of those could be more inexperience than lasting problems.  And some may be simply a bad game from a guy here, a guy there.  I feel confident in saying the UTEP game for example was a gameplan you won’t see any other game with Baxter being a big part of that.  Then he went out after one play.

There’s data and enough available to say we’re ok and there are rational reasons to explain whatever shortcomings thus far.  Problems?  It’s  still early to make that declaration.

[Hashtag]

5 hours ago, Here for the Wins said:

Evaluate to a theoretical standard that doesn’t exist.  How do you develop a baseline of what is poor, average or great line play?  Yeah, I get it, the eye test.

The reference to Ohio State was that some teams have played 3 games, some 4.  We are top 3rd in pass blocking, top half in run blocking  per PFF.  Each player is graded to a standard.  I’m not sure that is measured relative to opponents strength but I’d assume not.

Now mix this with some FEI rankings.  The relative strength of the defenses we’ve played to date says that’s the 32rd toughest defensive schedule.  Our OFEI is 22nd.  There are exactly two offenses higher than ours currently that have faced a tougher defensive schedule.  Those two are Ohio State and Miami.

Obviously, all this will play out over time.  This early in the season the problems vary from week to week and won’t necessarily correlate to the next game. Some of those could be more inexperience than lasting problems.  And some may be simply a bad game from a guy here, a guy there.  I feel confident in saying the UTEP game for example was a gameplan you won’t see any other game with Baxter being a big part of that.  Then he went out after one play.

There’s data and enough available to say we’re ok and there are rational reasons to explain whatever shortcomings thus far.  Problems?  It’s  still early to make that declaration.

The problems that currently exist with the OL existed last year, the year before, and the year before that. 
 

stroh isn’t magically going to get athletic, DJ Campbell isn’t going to magically stop committing penalties, Hutson isn’t going to magically get significantly better. 
 

The center and lg is somehow a worse combination than Majors and Conner. 

[HudGar1922]

1 hour ago, Hashtag said:

The problems that currently exist with the OL existed last year, the year before, and the year before that. 
 

stroh isn’t magically going to get athletic, DJ Campbell isn’t going to magically stop committing penalties, Hutson isn’t going to magically get significantly better. 
 

The center and lg is somehow a worse combination than Majors and Conner. 

somehow shocking didn’t think it got much worse 

[Here for the Wins]

3 hours ago, Hashtag said:

The problems that currently exist with the OL existed last year, the year before, and the year before that. 
 

stroh isn’t magically going to get athletic, DJ Campbell isn’t going to magically stop committing penalties, Hutson isn’t going to magically get significantly better. 
 

The center and lg is somehow a worse combination than Majors and Conner. 

Yet somehow that C, in spite of being injured, was picked up by the defending Super Bowl champs.  The team whose starting crew is considered by some to be the best unit in the NFL.

That problem at G was so terrible he was drafted.

For two years running, Texas had a top 3-5 ish pass blocking unit.  I’d challenge you to find me any OL, but provide some support for you claim,  that could claim to be top 5 in both pass protection and run blocking.  I’d bet you can’t find one.  And you sure as hell won’t find one in which all 5 members are equally adept at pass protection and run blocking.

And even in spite of this major “problem” two of the plays on our final important drive last year were off the edges.

All teams have strengths and weaknesses.  And that’s for certain in every teams Oline so it’s really more about playing into your strengths.  But sure let’s harp on it as a problem that probably doesn’t have a solution to satisfy you.

Its still early so we don’t fully know what we do best.  Funny too that message board warriors had themselves convinced that our interior run game would be improved because the “problems” were now gone.

 

 

[Hashtag]

1 hour ago, Here for the Wins said:

Yet somehow that C, in spite of being injured, was picked up by the defending Super Bowl champs.  The team whose starting crew is considered by some to be the best unit in the NFL.

That problem at G was so terrible he was drafted.

For two years running, Texas had a top 3-5 ish pass blocking unit.  I’d challenge you to find me any OL, but provide some support for you claim,  that could claim to be top 5 in both pass protection and run blocking.  I’d bet you can’t find one.  And you sure as hell won’t find one in which all 5 members are equally adept at pass protection and run blocking.

And even in spite of this major “problem” two of the plays on our final important drive last year were off the edges.

All teams have strengths and weaknesses.  And that’s for certain in every teams Oline so it’s really more about playing into your strengths.  But sure let’s harp on it as a problem that probably doesn’t have a solution to satisfy you.

Its still early so we don’t fully know what we do best.  Funny too that message board warriors had themselves convinced that our interior run game would be improved because the “problems” were now gone.

 

 

You’re right. We definitely are great in short yardage and redzone with our incredible offensive line! We move defenders off the line of scrimmage and things are amazing. Go team go! 

[Here for the Wins]

57 minutes ago, Hashtag said:

You’re right. We definitely are great in short yardage and redzone with our incredible offensive line! We move defenders off the line of scrimmage and things are amazing. Go team go! 

And we’ve largely whipped our opponents short yardage efforts too for the last handful of years so where are their dominating road graders?

Goalline and short yardage is about numbers. There is no one to block a Ransom or Downs.  The play caller has to account for those dudes.  We have added some QB run to the mix.  That’s already helped.  
 

This belief that defenses get moved off the line is a fallacy.  In the 8 game regular season SEC slate last year, we led the conference in yards per carry with no help from the Qb and backs generally perceived to get what was blocked.  No team, in the theoretical best conference, is moving teams off the line consistently.

You gave no examples on these dominating offensive fronts.  We clearly value pass protection.  Our tight ends are generally better pass catchers than blockers.  Until proven otherwise that’s where our priority lies.  I understand that’s a problem for you.

[Hashtag]

16 minutes ago, Here for the Wins said:

And we’ve largely whipped our opponents short yardage efforts too for the last handful of years so where are their dominating road graders?

Goalline and short yardage is about numbers. There is no one to block a Ransom or Downs.  The play caller has to account for those dudes.  We have added some QB run to the mix.  That’s already helped.  
 

This belief that defenses get moved off the line is a fallacy.  In the 8 game regular season SEC slate last year, we led the conference in yards per carry with no help from the Qb and backs generally perceived to get what was blocked.  No team, in the theoretical best conference, is moving teams off the line consistently.

You gave no examples on these dominating offensive fronts.  We clearly value pass protection.  Our tight ends are generally better pass catchers than blockers.  Until proven otherwise that’s where our priority lies.  I understand that’s a problem for you.

 

Watch these two videos and notice the interior push of Ohio St vs our interior push vs them. It shows everything that is a problem and has been a problem for our line in short yardage and goal line situations. 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1N-UY2jLRQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rr_1WTqEd0

 

Here is a classic Hayden Conner moment and he had plenty of these:

Hint - It's never good to be facing toward your running backs at the goal line. 

 

Here is Stroh who took out 2 other linemen because he's so unathletic he trips over himself all the time

Edited 2 hours ago by Hashtag

[harveycmd]

6 minutes ago, Here for the Wins said:

And we’ve largely whipped our opponents short yardage efforts too for the last handful of years so where are their dominating road graders?

Goalline and short yardage is about numbers. There is no one to block a Ransom or Downs.  The play caller has to account for those dudes.  We have added some QB run to the mix.  That’s already helped.  
 

This belief that defenses get moved off the line is a fallacy.  In the 8 game regular season SEC slate last year, we led the conference in yards per carry with no help from the Qb and backs generally perceived to get what was blocked.  No team, in the theoretical best conference, is moving teams off the line consistently.

You gave no examples on these dominating offensive fronts.  We clearly value pass protection.  Our tight ends are generally better pass catchers than blockers.  Until proven otherwise that’s where our priority lies.  I understand that’s a problem for you.

The weltschmerz from our fanbase and media about the run game is amusing. Had one the best rushing teams in the SEC last year, but all we hear is we can't run. We had trouble running the ball in some games and some situations. So did everyone else. Georgia had its worst run offense and run defense in years last season. The list goes on. 

To this point, Arch running in the redzone looks promising. Long way to go, but the handwringing and complaining are tiresome to say the least.

[Hashtag]

4 minutes ago, harveycmd said:

The weltschmerz from our fanbase and media about the run game is amusing. Had one the best rushing teams in the SEC last year, but all we hear is we can't run. We had trouble running the ball in some games and some situations. So did everyone else. Georgia had its worst run offense and run defense in years last season. The list goes on. 

To this point, Arch running in the redzone looks promising. Long way to go, but the handwringing and complaining are tiresome to say the least.

Those "some games" and "some times" are the biggest and most crucial times, it's insane that yall try to diminish it. I guarantee you every mod on this site agree with those of use who say we don't consistently run the ball well in red zone or short yardage vs elite teams we play. It's just a fact.

[Oldest Horn]

13 minutes ago, Hashtag said:

Those "some games" and "some times" are the biggest and most crucial times, it's insane that yall try to diminish it. I guarantee you every mod on this site agree with those of use who say we don't consistently run the ball well in red zone or short yardage vs elite teams we play. It's just a fact.

You mean against the most talented and accomplished teams. Yes, it happens. 

[harveycmd]

9 minutes ago, Oldest Horn said:

You mean against the most talented and accomplished teams. Yes, it happens. 

Exactly. Georgia couldn't run against Ole Miss, Notre Dame and Kentucky. Ohio State couldn't run against, Michigan, Nebraska, and had real trouble against Penn State. Again, the list is long and distinguished. 

[Hashtag]

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This is Stroh every single game consistently. 

[Oldest Horn]

Wow, please forward these to the staff. I bet they haven’t seen these!