Rocky P Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 8 hours ago, drag worm said: - Top five in OL penalties in the country. - One of the ten worst pass protection OL in the country. - So bad at run blocking in Athens we just gave up. - Flushed five interior OL misevaluations to the portaL - And to fix the problem… we added Dylan Sikorski and are rolling the dice on a redshirt or true freshman to emerge as the answer. That math don’t math. Lets do the math .how many elite experiences guards entered the portal and texas tried and missed on? 1 Quote
PaulieD Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 21 hours ago, Gerry Hamilton said: I think it's good that a father and son have a meaningful dialogue. Communication is always a positive.👀 1 Quote
PaulieD Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 13 hours ago, davisxcole said: Trust me the $59.99 a year is worth it, it’s a real community It really is, for the most part. Yeah, sometimes @Joe ZuraJoe runs off the reservation (to Oregon) but Pops (aka @Gerry Hamilton) reels him in. Enjoy!🤘 Quote
Beldar Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 11 hours ago, AusMOJO said: I disagree, it's on the players that this is happening. Everyone hated that the colleges and all that, had the power. Now the players have the power and it's a sh*t show. While the supposed ruling body sits back and does nothing because it's scared of a lawsuit or something lol. Never works real well when the inmates run the asylum. Quote
Rocky P Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, Beldar said: Never works real well when the inmates run the asylum. Its the staff fault typically when the inmates take over. They allowed it to get to this point by fighting change when they could of done a much better job of the learn and adapt side. Instead they tried to fight off the inevitable fir way too long and never truly pivoted to how to make a system that works. NCAA let the courts get involved to make their decisions and now the ncaa has 0 teeth to control anything. People will just take them to court and win to get what they want. You can try to blame the inmates but its clear as day the staff and guards caused the madness they cannot control. Quote
Guts Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago I know we are all worried about the O-line and I agree. But I still think we are championship contenders even if we don’t add pieces. Why? I don’t know. 1 Quote
Here for the Wins Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, Rocky P said: Lets do the math .how many elite experiences guards entered the portal and texas tried and missed on? I manually counted so perhaps math is off a little bit. In the 2025 NFL draft, there were 23 Tackles taken, 14 Guards and 3 Centers. in 2024, 25 Tackles, 16 Guards, 11 Centers. In 2023, 16 Tackles, 15 Guards, 10 Centers. The 3 year totals are 64 Tackles, 45 Guards and 24 Centers. First rounders - 17 Tackles, 4 Guards, 1 Center. There at least two guys drafted as Guards that were Tackles in college - Troy Fautanu, Wyatt Milam. Gray Zabel is another that had more starts at Tackle than Guard. I suspect if you looked deeper there are more that were collegiate Tackles and moved to the interior than moved from the interior to Tackle. Just Texas guys alone we’ve had Conner Williams, Sam Cosmi and Justin Blalock play Tackle at Texas then found their home on the interior in the NFL. There’s a couple of points in here. I’ve read multiple posts about Flood’s ability to develop Tackles but not interior guys. The data suggests he’s not alone. The draft data reflects Tackles are more favored, and it’s quite likely it’s even more slanted in that collegiate Tackles are drafted as interior guys rather the other way around. Then we have the discussion of “elite.” With NIL, the waters are muddied, but I’d assume that a majority of draft eligible elite guys jump to the NFL. Of those 133 drafted offensive linemen, 28 were drafted after Hayden Conner in the 211 slot. I’m guessing few here ever referred to Conner as elite. Now, you’re down to 104 offensive linemen that might be considered elite. Proportionally speaking that’s about 35 Guards over 3 years or 11 per year. If you pair that up with PFF grades, there was 1 with a 90+ (from Army) and 11 with 80+. Only 5 were from the Power 4. Two of the 5 were first year starters and have eligibility left. The other 3 should be out of eligibility unless they get some form of waiver. There just aren’t many elite Guards running around. Moving Baker inside is somewhat uncommon although that transition was likely to occur at the NFL level. It’s uncommon because few teams have two very capable Tackles. Quote
Here for the Wins Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 21 minutes ago, Guts said: I know we are all worried about the O-line and I agree. But I still think we are championship contenders even if we don’t add pieces. Why? I don’t know. Because we have won 35 games over the past 3 seasons, and we have guys here through all of that. Because we have guys who’ve played in hostile, playoff and championship environments. We have guys that have competed against the best. We have guys that the NFL will gladly invite onto their teams. You take these factors generically there are few teams that can say that. That’s why. Quote
Longhornfrenzy Posted 37 minutes ago Posted 37 minutes ago (edited) 11 hours ago, Joe Zura said: Shhh don’t say it to loud the mods will get mad because they have to sunshine pump and gaslight the next few months to make it seem like everything is fine Edited 37 minutes ago by Longhornfrenzy Quote
Rocky P Posted 18 minutes ago Posted 18 minutes ago 1 hour ago, Here for the Wins said: I manually counted so perhaps math is off a little bit. In the 2025 NFL draft, there were 23 Tackles taken, 14 Guards and 3 Centers. in 2024, 25 Tackles, 16 Guards, 11 Centers. In 2023, 16 Tackles, 15 Guards, 10 Centers. The 3 year totals are 64 Tackles, 45 Guards and 24 Centers. First rounders - 17 Tackles, 4 Guards, 1 Center. There at least two guys drafted as Guards that were Tackles in college - Troy Fautanu, Wyatt Milam. Gray Zabel is another that had more starts at Tackle than Guard. I suspect if you looked deeper there are more that were collegiate Tackles and moved to the interior than moved from the interior to Tackle. Just Texas guys alone we’ve had Conner Williams, Sam Cosmi and Justin Blalock play Tackle at Texas then found their home on the interior in the NFL. There’s a couple of points in here. I’ve read multiple posts about Flood’s ability to develop Tackles but not interior guys. The data suggests he’s not alone. The draft data reflects Tackles are more favored, and it’s quite likely it’s even more slanted in that collegiate Tackles are drafted as interior guys rather the other way around. Then we have the discussion of “elite.” With NIL, the waters are muddied, but I’d assume that a majority of draft eligible elite guys jump to the NFL. Of those 133 drafted offensive linemen, 28 were drafted after Hayden Conner in the 211 slot. I’m guessing few here ever referred to Conner as elite. Now, you’re down to 104 offensive linemen that might be considered elite. Proportionally speaking that’s about 35 Guards over 3 years or 11 per year. If you pair that up with PFF grades, there was 1 with a 90+ (from Army) and 11 with 80+. Only 5 were from the Power 4. Two of the 5 were first year starters and have eligibility left. The other 3 should be out of eligibility unless they get some form of waiver. There just aren’t many elite Guards running around. Moving Baker inside is somewhat uncommon although that transition was likely to occur at the NFL level. It’s uncommon because few teams have two very capable Tackles. So it sounds like the math does add up in regard to the portal and iol. While seeing names there is cool and fun, the team wanted to upgrade if they were going to make moves. The lack of substance in elite guards thats the team deem an upgrade are driving the portal results. Why pay for a player that you feel cant beat out what you already have, especially if that player is asking for NIL and guarantees Quote
Here for the Wins Posted 10 minutes ago Posted 10 minutes ago 1 minute ago, Rocky P said: So it sounds like the math does add up in regard to the portal and iol. While seeing names there is cool and fun, the team wanted to upgrade if they were going to make moves. The lack of substance in elite guards thats the team deem an upgrade are driving the portal results. Why pay for a player that you feel cant beat out what you already have, especially if that player is asking for NIL and guarantees I’d say you’re on the right path. Quote
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