Save College Sports Act

[Realist Horn]

Die Bill, die 

[TTown]

It is DOA now. Should have included the 2 Big Conferences from the start. Tried to strong-arm, and look where it got them. Can't wait for Cody's crying now😂😂

[Tuco Ramirez]

32 minutes ago, TTown said:

It is DOA now. Should have included the 2 Big Conferences from the start. Tried to strong-arm, and look where it got them. Can't wait for Cody's crying now😂😂

Cody will just cheat then cite the lack of rules as justification for breaking the rules. Again. 

[Alex Butler]

38 minutes ago, Tuco Ramirez said:

Cody will just cheat then cite the lack of rules as justification for breaking the rules. Again. 

Bet on it 😆😆😆

[mmdaytontexas]

On 7/27/2026 at 8:10 PM, BobInHouston said:

You would fit in quite well with the NCAA, which has tried for decades (and failed) to repeal the law of supply and demand.

We have had like a hundred years of this "nonsense." More than that, actually. The "cap" was basically zero, in terms of actual cash, and schools ignored it, because the market the schools wanted to tap cost real money. When NIL became "legal," costs skyrocketed because schools need the best players they can find.

The schools are welcome to live by the laws you suggest, but they won't, because they want their TV rights to be worth the millions they're being paid for them. But they do want the rules, because they will lower costs.

 

That's nonsense. Even the NFL has caps, rules, and boundaries. 

The problem is that you are equating pay-for-play with NIL. No player has a right to demand pay from a University, but they can earn as much as they want off of their NIL. The only reason the Universities are playing this game right now is they have to because there are no rules. If they want to compete and stay relevant, then they have to keep playing the game. However, they all want rules and boundaries, with a stop on the bidding for players. Sark has commented on this, and so did Saban during the White House round table. Since College Football is a nation wide sport and athletes are transferring at will to chase $$$, then Federal Regulations are needed to set the structures, definitions and boundaries of this new era of college sports. Most likely they will adopt an NFL model with collective bargaining, antitrust exemptions, and a commissioner. This bill will fail because it is not addressing any of these issues. The B1G and SEC will never agree to participate in this old NCAA model.

[BobInHouston]

On 7/27/2026 at 8:19 PM, GoHorns1 said:

Exactly. The new the governing private authority must have subpoena power to enforce the rules with tough consequences. That authority can be given power to subpoena by the schools.

Why do you think it is that important?

If it's not illegal, and there's no collectively bargained contract, people get to spend their money the way they want. Freedom of association and freedom to contract -- it's the American way. 

[BobInHouston]

12 hours ago, mmdaytontexas said:

That's nonsense. Even the NFL has caps, rules, and boundaries. 

The problem is that you are equating pay-for-play with NIL. No player has a right to demand pay from a University, but they can earn as much as they want off of their NIL. The only reason the Universities are playing this game right now is they have to because there are no rules. If they want to compete and stay relevant, then they have to keep playing the game. However, they all want rules and boundaries, with a stop on the bidding for players. Sark has commented on this, and so did Saban during the White House round table. Since College Football is a nation wide sport and athletes are transferring at will to chase $$$, then Federal Regulations are needed to set the structures, definitions and boundaries of this new era of college sports. Most likely they will adopt an NFL model with collective bargaining, antitrust exemptions, and a commissioner. This bill will fail because it is not addressing any of these issues. The B1G and SEC will never agree to participate in this old NCAA model.

The NFL caps, rules, and boundaries are collectively bargained. These rules would be imposed. Big difference.

Schools can pay, up to $20 mil. Players can ask ("demand"). Schools can say no. Players can go elsewhere. It's how the American economy works.

I don't see a difference between a school paying, or "real" NIL, or under the table.  Until there is a contract between the schools and athletes, there *shouldn't* be any rules. Why is college athletics the one place in which the federal government should be allowed to set maximum pay? 

But you do get it right at the end. They need collective bargaining, and the B1G and SEC will fight any pay limit that materially affects them. When the NCAA set the cap at zero dollars, people cheated because the talent was more valuable than that, and as time has gone on, the value has become much greater.

The issue is that the schools don't want to bargain collectively. They want federal law to impose rules. Admins and coaches in football and basketball are making money, schools are making money. It's not right, not fair to the athletes not to be able to make as much as they can. After all, without athletes, there are no games.

[GoHorns1]

1 hour ago, BobInHouston said:

Why do you think it is that important?

If it's not illegal, and there's no collectively bargained contract, people get to spend their money the way they want. Freedom of association and freedom to contract -- it's the American way. 

There’s going collective bargaining because it won’t work without it.

[Longhornlove]

This Act is anti-capitalistic, it protects the weak and has no business being passed.

[Burnt Orange Horn]

14 hours ago, mmdaytontexas said:

That's nonsense. Even the NFL has caps, rules, and boundaries. 

The problem is that you are equating pay-for-play with NIL. No player has a right to demand pay from a University, but they can earn as much as they want off of their NIL. The only reason the Universities are playing this game right now is they have to because there are no rules. If they want to compete and stay relevant, then they have to keep playing the game. However, they all want rules and boundaries, with a stop on the bidding for players. Sark has commented on this, and so did Saban during the White House round table. Since College Football is a nation wide sport and athletes are transferring at will to chase $$$, then Federal Regulations are needed to set the structures, definitions and boundaries of this new era of college sports. Most likely they will adopt an NFL model with collective bargaining, antitrust exemptions, and a commissioner. This bill will fail because it is not addressing any of these issues. The B1G and SEC will never agree to participate in this old NCAA model.

The pros are a free labor market. The have player associations.

College student athletes still have academic requirements at most universities.

The NCAA is broken and only its University members are maintaining its illusion of relevance for the media cash flow it enables.

Edited 4 hours ago by Burnt Orange Horn

[Burnt Orange Horn]

5 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

This Act is anti-capitalistic, it protects the weak and has no business being passed.

University athletic programs are not profit generators for the vast majority of universities.  Varsity Sports are  extracurricular opportunities for their students to represent the University in athletic competitions.  Intramural sports are on campus activities open to all student participation levels at the University's expense.

Economic models like capitalism and socialism are inappropriate, at best.

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[Longhornlove]

1 hour ago, Burnt Orange Horn said:

University athletic programs are not profit generators for the vast majority of universities.  Varsity Sports are  extracurricular opportunities for their students to represent the University in athletic competitions.  Intramural sports are on campus activities open to all student participation levels at the University's expense.

Economic models like capitalism and socialism are inappropriate, at best.

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And yet they attempt to restrict what should be a free market.

[Longhornlove]

1 hour ago, Burnt Orange Horn said:

The pros are a free labor market. The have player associations.

College student athletes still have academic requirements at most universities.

The NCAA is broken and only its University members are maintaining its illusion of relevance for the media cash flow it enables.

The NCAA has always been broken. What you believe in in how these kids are student athletes doesn't exist anymore. Most of these "athletes" probably don't even go to class anymore. Gerry has hinted at this on numerous occasions. The genie is out of the bottle and it ain't going back in. Forget what college sports used to be. This is a new era, embrace it or move onto something else.

Edited 2 hours ago by Longhornlove

[mmdaytontexas]

That's nonsense when you say, "it's not fair." These are student athletes. They are not getting a salary for a job.

No one is arguing they should not be able to profit off their popularity, hence NIL legislation, but that is a long way from pay to play. 

Again, if this is going to be nothing but a G-League for the NFL where players are paid for a job, then the schools need to divest of this nonsense and let the NFL find investors for each team, a city to locate them in, and finally a NFL club to link them to. 

If on the other hand they want to preserve college football and the collegiate athlete, then they need legislation that allows them to do that. 

Edited 2 hours ago by mmdaytontexas

[Oldest Horn]

3 hours ago, Longhornlove said:

This Act is anti-capitalistic, it protects the weak and has no business being passed.

So is the NFL. 

[Here for the Wins]

They should be student athletes.  They should have to attend classes.  Carson Beck received far greater benefit from college football than he gave to it for example.  As I understand it, he wasn’t actually a student attending classes.  That’s ridiculous.

The SEC is protecting Kentucky and Vanderbilt and maybe some others.  The Big 10 is protecting others yet little talk about kicking them out.

lots of talking out each side of the mouth.

[BobInHouston]

4 hours ago, GoHorns1 said:

There’s going collective bargaining because it won’t work without it.

While I agree, we're a lonnnnng way from that. It starts with the schools conceding that these revenue-sport athletes are employees, and they won't do that. 

When enough schools cry uncle, things will change, but not until then.

In the meantime, the schools have no business trying to limit compensation for a legal activity. Supply and demand for the win!

[BobInHouston]

2 hours ago, mmdaytontexas said:

That's nonsense when you say, "it's not fair." These are student athletes. They are not getting a salary for a job.

No one is arguing they should not be able to profit off their popularity, hence NIL legislation, but that is a long way from pay to play. 

Why are they popular enough to be paid?

2 hours ago, mmdaytontexas said:

Again, if this is going to be nothing but a G-League for the NFL where players are paid for a job, then the schools need to divest of this nonsense and let the NFL find investors for each team, a city to locate them in, and finally a NFL club to link them to. 

If on the other hand they want to preserve college football and the collegiate athlete, then they need legislation that allows them to do that. 

The colleges want it both ways. They were the ones that built the huge stadiums (many larger than those used by actual pros). They took in all the money and paid it to people of their choosing, who were not the ones actually playing the games, because they relied on the public believing that it was an activity engaged in by everyday students.

The financial part relies on the loyalty of college grads who lived the experience and want it to continue. Removing the college connection will cause it to crash (which is why the schools, who control the money, are doing all they can to keep it flowing while still paying the athletes as little as possible.

The problem is that the courts are no longer looking the other way when the NCAA says, "This is how we've always done it."