Interesting Historical note on Sark

[TexTheHorn24]

Steve Sarkisian can become the first Texas head coach to beat Oklahoma three consecutive times since David McWilliams from 1989-91.

 

[Okcool]

17 minutes ago, TexTheHorn24 said:

Steve Sarkisian can become the first Texas head coach to beat Oklahoma three consecutive times since David McWilliams from 1989-91.

 

'94 grad. 1990-94. Peter "The Great" Gardere, ou slayer. He never lost to blowU. The Cash twins and Johnny Walker made a lot of those wins happen. We were the dog every year I was there. Great f'n games!

[TexasMDcoach]

WOW, just shows that they have had the edge of late during the Stoops years and our years wandering through the wilderness after Mack's delayed exit and the years following that.

[HookemTexas]

18 minutes ago, TexasMDcoach said:

WOW, just shows that they have had the edge of late during the Stoops years and our years wandering through the wilderness after Mack's delayed exit and the years following that.

Stoops owned Texas for the most part.  Very frustrating, hopefully Sark will have a long tenure of returning the favor.

[TexasMDcoach]

1 minute ago, HookemTexas said:

Stoops owned Texas for the most part.  Very frustrating, hopefully Sark will have a long tenure of returning the favor.

True and the only thing that kept it from being worse is those were some really good Texas teams.  They were just that good.

[watty7796]

65–51–5-1

Texas has the edge all time and now Sarks tenure is going quite well for the Horns.  One of the things that happened in the past couple of years is Texas ability to revive all the Rivalry games.  Great for recruiting...great for the state...and more than anything else great for college football.  

[John F.]

1 hour ago, TexTheHorn24 said:

Steve Sarkisian can become the first Texas head coach to beat Oklahoma three consecutive times since David McWilliams from 1989-91.

 

Interesting. We also have a three game winning streak against aggie. When’s the last time we’ve had three game streaks against both at the same time?

[WRNC]

Between Texas and OU, the programs claim 11 national titles, and in every single instance, the team that hoisted the national championship trophy won the Red River Rivalry game earlier that season.

[HookemTexas]

2 hours ago, John F. said:

Interesting. We also have a three game winning streak against aggie. When’s the last time we’ve had three game streaks against both at the same time?

I think Rod said that in Texas' history, there's never been a period where a coach won three in a row against all three primary rivals (OU, Arkansas, Aggie).  I know you didn't include Arkansas, but Rod did since they are the three permanent rivals moving forward and historically were a rival.

[Alex Butler]

5 minutes ago, HookemTexas said:

I think Rod said that in Texas' history, there's never been a period where a coach won three in a row against all three primary rivals (OU, Arkansas, Aggie).  I know you didn't include Arkansas, but Rod did since they are the three permanent rivals moving forward and historically were a rival.

It’s been 56 years and DKR was the last to do it. 

[Bobby Burton]

5 hours ago, TexTheHorn24 said:

Steve Sarkisian can become the first Texas head coach to beat Oklahoma three consecutive times since David McWilliams from 1989-91.

 

I was at every single one of those!!!

[TexasMDcoach]

8 minutes ago, Bobby Burton said:

I was at every single one of those!!!

Young whippersnapper!

[CHorn427]

4 hours ago, HookemTexas said:

Stoops owned Texas for the most part.  Very frustrating, hopefully Sark will have a long tenure of returning the favor.

Mack was 5-6 vs Stoops after 2009. Then things got sideways after the 2010 collapse

[PaulieD]

21 hours ago, Okcool said:

'94 grad. 1990-94. Peter "The Great" Gardere, ou slayer. He never lost to blowU. The Cash twins and Johnny Walker made a lot of those wins happen. We were the dog every year I was there. Great f'n games!

Yeah Peter lived rent-free in ou's head.  

[thatdude2]

16 hours ago, CHorn427 said:

Mack was 5-6 vs Stoops after 2009. Then things got sideways after the 2010 collapse

Mack was a former Sooner doing an inside job at the time.

[CHorn427]

1 hour ago, thatdude2 said:

Mack was a former Sooner doing an inside job at the time.

Mack Brown’s biggest downfall in college football (not only) was that he was too honest of a guy. I’ll take it. He could have lied to guys during recruiting and stacked talent that way in an era before commonplace transfers and player autonomy. Many in our fanbase would have preferred that over honesty. Guy is a legend in my book and receives way too much slander from the Texas fanbase.

[HookedOnTF]

23 hours ago, HookemTexas said:

Stoops owned Texas for the most part.  Very frustrating, hopefully Sark will have a long tenure of returning the favor.

Plus now we have a Stoops so....

[HookedOnTF]

11 minutes ago, CHorn427 said:

Mack Brown’s biggest downfall in college football (not only) was that he was too honest of a guy. I’ll take it. He could have lied to guys during recruiting and stacked talent that way in an era before commonplace transfers and player autonomy. Many in our fanbase would have preferred that over honesty. Guy is a legend in my book and receives way too much slander from the Texas fanbase.

Mack gets too much slander, and I love that hes back around the University.

Others may have a better analysis of his downfall but IMHO 09 broke him and put him in a funk. A sabbatical might have worked wonders. The OL was maybe the biggest negative indicator of losing the edge, and Saban being willing to flirt with us broke the camels back.

[Billy Dean]

3 hours ago, HookedOnTF said:

Mack gets too much slander, and I love that hes back around the University.

Others may have a better analysis of his downfall but IMHO 09 broke him and put him in a funk. A sabbatical might have worked wonders. The OL was maybe the biggest negative indicator of losing the edge, and Saban being willing to flirt with us broke the camels back.

Gardere was the first QB I saw of my first ever Texas game when I was 7, and it was the Texas OU game.  That was a great day 🤘

[tmataya]

9 hours ago, HookedOnTF said:

Mack gets too much slander, and I love that hes back around the University.

Others may have a better analysis of his downfall but IMHO 09 broke him and put him in a funk. A sabbatical might have worked wonders. The OL was maybe the biggest negative indicator of losing the edge, and Saban being willing to flirt with us broke the camels back.

I think the downfall was when Mack very publicly said he was going to replicate Alabama and Nick Saban’s approach. He should have just stayed Mack. Saban was a unique situation/person. 

[HookemTexas]

26 minutes ago, tmataya said:

I think the downfall was when Mack very publicly said he was going to replicate Alabama and Nick Saban’s approach. He should have just stayed Mack. Saban was a unique situation/person. 

That and he completely changed course on his offense because instead of accepting that he counted on an offense led by Colt McCoy and never bothered to get Garret Gilbert any worthwhile in game experience so when Colt got hurt in the championship game he had nobody ready to take the reins.  Then instead of prepping Gilbert to take over the next year, he decided to change the offense completely away from what made Gilbert good (and what he was recruited for) to try to copy Saban's offensive approach (which made no sense because they had recruited different personnel).

It was the complete opposite of build the scheme to fit your players, it was literally force these players into this scheme (square peg meet round hole). 

Additionally, it seemed like Mack's recruits evaluations started to really slip.  He signed players way early in the cycle and considered it done and missed out on a bunch of good players later in the cycle while a bunch of his early high rated recruits tailed off and didn't really pan out in college.

[LonghornFan4Ever]

38 minutes ago, tmataya said:

I think the downfall was when Mack very publicly said he was going to replicate Alabama and Nick Saban’s approach. He should have just stayed Mack. Saban was a unique situation/person. 

Dabo Swinney has been going through this since the beginning of the NIL era.