Hoops: Texas at South Carolina Game Thread

[harveycmd]

56 minutes ago, Brian Carter said:

We also didn’t get Tre Johnson, Mark and all the transfers with poor NIL so perhaps not that accurate that basketball won’t be competitive.  Pretty sure we can match NIL of Marquette and Miss St.  to be in at least top 25 most years.  

True. Just don't believe that Texas isn't competitive in NIL or resources for basketball. Plenty of schools without anything close to Texas resources that are better. 

[bierce]

8 minutes ago, Hashtag said:

Really not a bad price because it saves you roughly 6 million on the life of the contract coupled with not having to pay Beards so that money could go to the next coaches buyout.

I'm not at all worried about funding a buyout for Terry.  I'm worried about getting the right new guy.

[512Horn]

Happy to see everyone has finally come around, except @Jordan91. I’m sure he’s still trying to justify keeping RT. It was painfully obvious the day the hire was made that this was a terrible hire. And many of us said so at the time. Oh and the “Texas basketball doesn’t have enough resources to win” argument may be a dumber argument than RT was a good hire argument. So not surprised to see @Jordan91 hopping on that train.

[bierce]

10 minutes ago, 512Horn said:

Happy to see everyone has finally come around, except @Jordan91. I’m sure he’s still trying to justify keeping RT. It was painfully obvious the day the hire was made that this was a terrible hire. And many of us said so at the time. Oh and the “Texas basketball doesn’t have enough resources to win” argument may be a dumber argument than RT was a good hire argument. So not surprised to see @Jordan91 hopping on that train.

Actually, I think you will find Jordan is of the opinion Terry is done here but never received the full support of the fans, administration, or bmds.  He's not wrong. 

Terry is not a world beater D1 head coach.

Terry did not have the full backing that another coach would have received.

Both are true statements, and our program has suffered because BOTH are true statements.

 

[harveycmd]

18 minutes ago, bierce said:

Actually, I think you will find Jordan is of the opinion Terry is done here but never received the full support of the fans, administration, or bmds.  He's not wrong. 

Terry is not a world beater D1 head coach.

Terry did not have the full backing that another coach would have received.

Both are true statements, and our program has suffered because BOTH are true statements.

 

What is "full backing" in this instance? Lacking the top NIL budget in the game doesn't equate to not having proper support. One can quibble about vocabulary to describe offense, but all one needs to do is watch Texas on offense, watch higher level teams, and then one sees the difference clearly. Talent isn't the biggest issue. 

[Realist Horn]

2 hours ago, bierce said:

 

Terry did not have the full backing that another coach would have received.

 

Terry had no skins on the wall when Texas made an emotional hire. He didn’t prove it at Fresno State or UTEP, and many questioned the hire. Part of coaching at Texas is energizing the boosters and fan base. Terry couldn’t do that. 
 

after taking Beards team to the Elite 8, Terry fell back to who he is….a career assistant coach. He’s been an utter failure. You’ll won’t see him at a major D1 program after this which tells you all you need to know (Barnes at Tenn, Shaka at Marq and Beard at Ole Miss). 

[harveycmd]

We're dealing with big time homers here.

[Jack Lala]

For me, I hope someone gets in Williams ear and tell him that he's not NBA ready. His 3 at shooting al9ne speaks to that. But his inside game won't work at that level. 

[harveycmd]

The thing I'll go out on here isn't that Texas isn't "supporting" men's basketball enough, but rather that CDC doesn't know basketball. Maybe it wasn't his decision to fire Beard. Maybe he was pushed into hiring Terry. Doesn't matter in the end. Two big mistakes. 

[Bevo92]

The silver lining to our Horns getting blown out by 0-13 last place South Carolina in late February is that it’s no longer a debate for CDC.   RT is a very nice guy but he is not up to the ‘standard’ at UT.   It’s time for change in the head coach at UT.  Don’t wait.   Pull the trigger this next week, install interim HC and get ahead of the coaching search by starting now: 

In CDC’s interview with @Bobby Burton yesterday, CDC used the analogy of being the captain of an aircraft carrier versus a motor boat on the lake.   Both float and have a motor but it takes a different level of talent to be the captain of the Texas Longhorn aircraft carrier in each sport.   Texas Longhorns deserve better.   The past several years have been painful following the Great 8 run.    It’s time to move forward.   With the right coach, we can begin to have reason for optimism next season.   

im looking forward to seeing how CDC decides to proceed with upgrading the coaching in men’s basketball.

Hook em! 🧡🤘🏼🐂
 

 

[harveycmd]

14 minutes ago, Bevo92 said:

The silver lining to our Horns getting blown out by 0-13 last place South Carolina in late February is that it’s no longer a debate for CDC.   RT is a very nice guy but he is not up to the ‘standard’ at UT.   It’s time for change in the head coach at UT.  Don’t wait.   Pull the trigger this next week, install interim HC and get ahead of the coaching search by starting now: 

In CDC’s interview with @Bobby Burton yesterday, CDC used the analogy of being the captain of an aircraft carrier versus a motor boat on the lake.   Both float and have a motor but it takes a different level of talent to be the captain of the Texas Longhorn aircraft carrier in each sport.   Texas Longhorns deserve better.   The past several years have been painful following the Great 8 run.    It’s time to move forward.   With the right coach, we can begin to have reason for optimism next season.   

im looking forward to seeing how CDC decides to proceed with upgrading the coaching in men’s basketball.

Hook em! 🧡🤘🏼🐂
 

 

Need to pass this along to the self-appointed basketball experts here.

[pinkman_90]

9 hours ago, Jordan91 said:

He doesn’t have one. 

Oh I get it now.  You tried this with someone in the game thread and then tried it on me.  
 

Must be something you learned in the famous “We’re better than those other game thread people they are so stupid” group chat.  

[qaertyisthatdude]

3 minutes ago, pinkman_90 said:

Oh I get it now.  You tried this with someone in the game thread and then tried it on me.  
 

Must be something you learned in the famous “We’re better than those other game thread people they are so stupid” group chat.  

Everytime Texas MBB is losing chants NIL NIL NIL.  Apparently that’s the missing ingredient before the cake can be baked.  Then I watch the WBB team play and I’m like you sure about that?

[Thanos72]

1 hour ago, Bevo92 said:

The silver lining to our Horns getting blown out by 0-13 last place South Carolina in late February is that it’s no longer a debate for CDC.   RT is a very nice guy but he is not up to the ‘standard’ at UT.   It’s time for change in the head coach at UT.  Don’t wait.   Pull the trigger this next week, install interim HC and get ahead of the coaching search by starting now: 

In CDC’s interview with @Bobby Burton yesterday, CDC used the analogy of being the captain of an aircraft carrier versus a motor boat on the lake.   Both float and have a motor but it takes a different level of talent to be the captain of the Texas Longhorn aircraft carrier in each sport.   Texas Longhorns deserve better.   The past several years have been painful following the Great 8 run.    It’s time to move forward.   With the right coach, we can begin to have reason for optimism next season.   

im looking forward to seeing how CDC decides to proceed with upgrading the coaching in men’s basketball.

Hook em! 🧡🤘🏼🐂
 

 

Texas doesn’t deserve anything. No one is entitled. Yall act like Texas has a great basketball history. Terry is about where we’ve been overall as a program. No one has been the answer and hasn’t shown that he can be but the tone of the comments towards Strong, Shaka and Terry when they’ve not been successful is revealing in itself. 

Yall still suckling at the teat of beard are an embarrassment. All of us are responsible for our own actions. Period. But as long as he can win games, amirite?

[qaertyisthatdude]

5 minutes ago, Thanos72 said:

Texas doesn’t deserve anything. No one is entitled. Yall act like Texas has a great basketball history. Terry is about where we’ve been overall as a program. No one has been the answer and hasn’t shown that he can be but the tone of the comments towards Strong, Shaka and Terry when they’ve not been successful is revealing in itself. 

Yall still suckling at the teat of beard are an embarrassment. All of us are responsible for our own actions. Period. But as long as he can win games, amirite?

Does Tennessee have a long storied history of success in MBB?  Or Alabama?  Or Clemson?  Or Florida pre Billy Donovan era?

Edited 3 hours ago by qaertyisthatdude

[harveycmd]

We need Raylan Givens.

[Wrong Link Gerry]

8 hours ago, harveycmd said:

True. Just don't believe that Texas isn't competitive in NIL or resources for basketball. Plenty of schools without anything close to Texas resources that are better. 

The no NIL excuse came from a different board from a writer with no sources who is consistently wrong. Then it was latched onto by a few RT truthers who like to pretend to know more than everyone else but are just regurgitating false info. It’s not true. RT doesn’t have the support that a coach who donors believed in would, but he is absolutely supported. 

[LibertyHillHorn]

32 minutes ago, Thanos72 said:

Texas doesn’t deserve anything. No one is entitled. Yall act like Texas has a great basketball history. Terry is about where we’ve been overall as a program. No one has been the answer and hasn’t shown that he can be but the tone of the comments towards Strong, Shaka and Terry when they’ve not been successful is revealing in itself. 

Yall still suckling at the teat of beard are an embarrassment. All of us are responsible for our own actions. Period. But as long as he can win games, amirite?

So you’re saying the tone of comments towards Mack, Augie, Barnes, Pierce and Herman were different when they were on the hot seat?  😂

[dentonhorn]

46 minutes ago, Thanos72 said:

Texas doesn’t deserve anything. No one is entitled. Yall act like Texas has a great basketball history. Terry is about where we’ve been overall as a program. No one has been the answer and hasn’t shown that he can be but the tone of the comments towards Strong, Shaka and Terry when they’ve not been successful is revealing in itself. 

Yall still suckling at the teat of beard are an embarrassment. All of us are responsible for our own actions. Period. But as long as he can win games, amirite?

Amen!

[Wrong Link Gerry]

47 minutes ago, Thanos72 said:

the tone of the comments towards Strong, Shaka and Terry when they’ve not been successful is revealing in itself. 

SMH

[cmk4pres]

Under .500 at Fresno and UTEP. He wasn't going to all of sudden be elite here.

[Oldest Horn]

1 hour ago, Thanos72 said:

Texas doesn’t deserve anything. No one is entitled. Yall act like Texas has a great basketball history. Terry is about where we’ve been overall as a program. No one has been the answer and hasn’t shown that he can be but the tone of the comments towards Strong, Shaka and Terry when they’ve not been successful is revealing in itself. 

Yall still suckling at the teat of beard are an embarrassment. All of us are responsible for our own actions. Period. But as long as he can win games, amirite?

Are they as revealing as those towards Mackovic, Brown, Herman and Pierce?

[Jarveaux]

12 hours ago, NothinButDaHorns34 said:

My gosh! New basketball coach PLEASE. 

If not now - When ?  Texas is being embarrassed by our basketball 🏀 program. How long will this be allowed? 

[Doc Strangemood]

8 hours ago, bierce said:

1 hour ago, Thanos72 said:

Terry is about where we’ve been overall as a program.

 

Actually ahead of the historical standard for his first two years.

[Doc Strangemood]

The team with the most talent usually wins.

- John Wooden

Edited 2 hours ago by Doc Strangemood