OTF Premium This Arch Throw...

[CJ Vogel]

I guess I didn't recognize how impressive it was at the time, but from this angle it's undeniably an impressive throw. Perhaps one of the most impressive tosses he has hard this season.

 

[NothinButDaHorns34]

I mean this dude wasn’t getting first overall mocks just because his last name is manning. It’s crazy how easily people on here have forgotten that since he doesn’t look like a heisman candidate this year. 

[Deej]

The offense’s 4th quarter EPA was nearly .7….Elite level play is typically around .25. Some crazy good offense in the 4th quarter 

[Longhornlove]

Take one of those tight ends off the field and start slinging it. Too many blitzes can be disguised with all those people in the box. Spread it out and let the QB and line know who is coming.

[General Grant]

I've never sold a share of my Manning stock 🙂

[CHorn427]

He had a similar one to Wingo last year vs ULM I believe (could be the wrong game)

[Shane]

51 minutes ago, NothinButDaHorns34 said:

I mean this dude wasn’t getting first overall mocks just because his last name is manning. It’s crazy how easily people on here have forgotten that since he doesn’t look like a heisman candidate this year. 

You said this perfectly ! 🤘🏻

[Thanos72]

1 hour ago, CJ Vogel said:

I guess I didn't recognize how impressive it was at the time, but from this angle it's undeniably an impressive throw. Perhaps one of the most impressive tosses he has hard this season.

 

The live game angle showed Wingo having to slow down so it’s low hanging fruit for the cloud yellers. It’s one thing to critique and recognize ineffective parts of his game. It’s another to throw him out with the proverbial bath water. My primary concerns for him are not in the physical traits department.

[CHorn427]

This was the one I was thinking of- 9:30 mark of this UTSA highlight reel:

https://youtu.be/eXaLj8Fktd8?si=G9UfE09kzGa6uICr

[AusMOJO]

@CJ Vogel - Do you think they need to move away from 12 personnel and just go with 10 and 11? Because being in 12 isn't providing much more protection for the QB and they aren't being much of a threat in the passing game either. I know Sark loves 12 personnel but it might be time for him to sideline that for a bit. 

[Glass Joe]

The most impressive throw I’ve seen this season was the Livingstons TD on the rollout right…elite!  There aren’t 10 QBs in the NFL who can make that throw.

Only the throw to Livingstone against OU (rolling right for a key first down when we were backed up) may compete with the one above.

Or, the dime he dropped to Endries against tOSU between the corner and Safety over the top for 30+ yards.

The throw above reminds me of the throw against Florida where he sidestepped an oncoming defender while rolling left, and dropped a TD dime to Wingo.

For all the criticism Arch has received (some deserved), he has made some of the most elite throws in college football as well.  Some jaw dropping arm talent.

Edited 18 hours ago by Glass Joe

[GQ03]

1 hour ago, AusMOJO said:

@CJ Vogel - Do you think they need to move away from 12 personnel and just go with 10 and 11? Because being in 12 isn't providing much more protection for the QB and they aren't being much of a threat in the passing game either. I know Sark loves 12 personnel but it might be time for him to sideline that for a bit. 

They really need to scrap it. Any time I see Spencer Shannon jump offsides, hold or straight whiff on a block I wonder why we even bother considering we use him as a 6th olineman instead of like an actual tight end. I'd be willing to bet every dollar that I own that Alabama's LT has more targets than Shannon. Having him out there effectively turns it to a 9 vs 11 game when we're on offense. 

[Horns_90]

Go shopping for OL....help the guy out 

[AusMOJO]

28 minutes ago, Horns_90 said:

Go shopping for OL....help the guy out 

I know people seem to think they'll do this in the portal window, but I don't know if they will. It needs to be a priority. Better evals, etc. 

[4thandFive]

2 hours ago, AusMOJO said:

@CJ Vogel - Do you think they need to move away from 12 personnel and just go with 10 and 11? Because being in 12 isn't providing much more protection for the QB and they aren't being much of a threat in the passing game either. I know Sark loves 12 personnel but it might be time for him to sideline that for a bit. 

I think I heard one of the OTF guys calling for more 11 personal the other day.

[TTown]

I still think the jury is out on Arch but man there is progress be honest. Makes some great throws. But misses some easy ones. That is what makes it so puzzling.

But behind that OL , evaluations are hard . But he is tough as nails and can run. And given the time you can see the potential. Throws great on the run. A decent running game would help him of course. And receivers being more consistent catching aka Wingo. We all now know this disaster was caused by wrong off season moves. Hopefully corrected in a couple of months.

[DanielOnorato]

10 minutes ago, 4thandFive said:

I think I heard one of the OTF guys calling for more 11 personal the other day.

I think CJ was even advocating for more of that in week 1.

Even in basketball if your team has great athletes but is young and inexperienced in a half court set you simplify it by going up tempo and spreading the floor or in this case field. Let your athletes make plays if nothing else is working. At this point nothing else has worked but I'm hopeful with a healthy backfield and receiver room they can hang on another week to have a healthy Arch Manning and take playoff form. 

[Longhornlove]

Sark deliberately stacks the box with the offense which brings in the defense in the box. It creates opportunity for defenses to disguise coverage or blitzes more easily. This is currently bad for Texas because of the youth and inexperience. If you spread the field on offense, the defense has trouble disguising their blitzes and coverage to some extent. Make them commit. Give the QB and lines easier reads. Sark is hard headed, he knows this to be true.

[LonghornFan4Ever]

5 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

Sark deliberately stacks the box with the offense which brings in the defense in the box. It creates opportunity for defenses to disguise coverage or blitzes more easily. This is currently bad for Texas because of the youth and inexperience. If you spread the field on offense, the defense has trouble disguising their blitzes and coverage to some extent. Make them commit. Give the QB and lines easier reads. Sark is hard headed, he knows this to be true.

Yep that’s not gonna change.  Sark is gonna run his 12 personnel and PK will play his DBs 50 yards off the line of scrimmage and drop Hill and Simmons into coverage.  It is what it is.

[LH2003]

2 hours ago, LonghornFan4Ever said:

Yep that’s not gonna change.  Sark is gonna run his 12 personnel and PK will play his DBs 50 yards off the line of scrimmage and drop Hill and Simmons into coverage.  It is what it is.

Lets not let facts get in the way of the Hill/Simmons comments. Between the two they have 7-8 sacks the last three games so they are getting to pin their ears back. Hill also had an INT versus Kentucky when dropping. 

[FootLaw]

The OL will improve next year and so will Arch. Cojoe will be back too. Expect and OL transfer or two. People forget how much QE was running for his life in 2022.

[Here for the Wins]

50 minutes ago, LH2003 said:

Lets not let facts get in the way of the Hill/Simmons comments. Between the two they have 7-8 sacks the last three games so they are getting to pin their ears back. Hill also had an INT versus Kentucky when dropping. 

Per PFF, Simmons rushes the passer approx 83% of the time.  Hill is approx 25%.

Gotta keep em guessing.

[Paul L]

Did he wince? Is he injured? 😂